Irish bride-to-be pleads with hotel

The Backwards Man · 20-09-2017 04:16PM

_Dara_ wrote: »

What do people make of this story on the Beeb from today, a couple in the UK asking upfront for everyone to give £150 towards their wedding? £150 a head is a lot of money, and some of those heads are children! It's a three day "all inclusive" event. The couple can't afford the wedding they want. I think it's cheeky because various guests might only want to attend one day and budget for that. But apparently everyone has paid up! :eek: The groom says "why not put the money towards the wedding than a business owner?" but surely that money people have paid is going towards various businesses?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-41317297

That's a great idea actually. Lot cheaper than going your average wedding over here.

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c68zapdsm5i1ru · 20-09-2017 04:18PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

How do you know they haven't tried to reschedule it?? Both teams would have to agree to a postponement. If I was playing or managing a team and the opposition asked to postpone it because of someone's wedding i'd say no.

I agree. It's just a wedding. Many people are actually glad to have an excuse not to attend and if you can do so without being rude then a lot of people will take that opportunity.

It's ridiculous to put a lot of people to a lot of inconvenience just so that a handful of guys can attend a mate's wedding. It would be different if it was some hugely important event in their lives, but it's not. It's a friend's wedding.

The Backwards Man · 20-09-2017 04:18PM

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w/o

GingerLily · 20-09-2017 04:19PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

That's a great idea actually. Lot cheaper than going your average wedding over here.

Average wedding gifts are nearer 50pounds pp in the UK (at most), much lower then here.

SAMTALK · 20-09-2017 04:19PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

How do you know they haven't tried to reschedule it?? Both teams would have to agree to a postponement. If I was playing or managing a team and the opposition asked to postpone it because of someone's wedding i'd say no.

Where would it stop?
My sisters boyfriends 2nd cousin is having a 21st , can we reschedule
My friends girlfriends friend is having her child christened, can we reschedule.

Hard enough to get fixtures fulfilled without this hassle.

weldoninhio · 20-09-2017 04:19PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

I used to give them the number, and tell them to tell Jessica on the phone I said hi.

I don't know a Jessica.

Can't believe you'd be so heinous as to lie about knowing someone on the Joe Duffy team!!! Who would do such a thing!!!!! :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Badly Drunk Boy · 20-09-2017 04:20PM

jamesbere wrote: »

The bride really dug a hole for herself here. Imagine the atmosphere in the hotel when the reception is on. The match their on about must be a replay, can't see any other reason why a match would be scheduled this late.

Well, the Keadeen Hotel is in Newbridge and I'm sure she's from Newbridge, so I checked the fixtures. If the wedding is on this Saturday, Sarsfields and Moorefield (the two Newbridge teams) are playing each other at 5.15 in the 2017 Reserve A Championship Final. That's important, isn't it?

Isn't it??

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 20-09-2017 04:20PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

That's a great idea actually. Lot cheaper than going your average wedding over here.

It's quite clever. It saves both the B&G and the guests a lot of money. As there's only 60 adults involved it sounds like it's mainly family and very close friends. So it's not really a case of a couple trying to have a big extravagant wedding and casting the net really wide to maximise on wedding presents and get the best deal for themselves from the hotel.

meep · 20-09-2017 04:21PM

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For a variety of reasons....

County championship match fixtures are governed by a specific set of rules evolved over time to ensure the smooth and fair running. Usually this requires both teams to agree to a postponement and that the re-fixed game occur within a specified period (7 days, for example)

In those circumstances, perpetual postponement as you describe is not feasible,

Match fixtures are a difficult area at best and must take into account circumstances such as the remaining competition fixtures and matches at other age grades in which players might also be participating. It's not an easy thing to reschedule a fixture to meet all criteria.

As to why the opposition would not agree to a re-fix, it's highly likely that an optimised training schedule has been put in place for the game in question. Changing the date for a nonsense reason disrupts this work and could in fact be detrimental to the teams conditioning and capabilities if the fixture is pushed out.

Finally, clubs will usually have a limited number of change requests available to them across all grades. They might not wish to (or might not have scope to) waste a precious request to accommodate the opposition.

You have indicated that you have little time for tribal sports (paraphrasing). You likely are therefore unaware of the intricacies of organising such events or the importance to which they are held within communities.

I would therefore respectfully suggest that you refrain from attempting to impose your ignorant* logic on events and organisations about which you know nothing.

(*literally defined, no insult intended)

SAMTALK · 20-09-2017 04:22PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

w/o

Think you might have to explain that to poster

:D

The Backwards Man · 20-09-2017 04:23PM

GingerLily wrote: »

Average wedding gifts are nearer 50pounds pp in the UK (at most), much lower then here.

Aye, but you're getting your whole weekend out of it. Free bars work better over there here though, people don't like having the opportunity to buy their third cousin whose name they can't remember a drink they don't want taken away from them.

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weldoninhio · 20-09-2017 04:23PM

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You have zero idea how hard clubs train for the championship. I'd imagine all of these players have been off the beer for at least a two/three months. Probably training 2/3 mornings before heading off to do a days work and training another 2/3 evenings after work. Eating a strict diet from the run up to the Championship to now and beyond, sacrificing loads to get as far as possible in the competition, and you basically want them to shrug their shoulders at the semi-final stage and wipe all of that out for a wedding???

_Dara_ · 20-09-2017 04:23PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

That's a great idea actually. Lot cheaper than going your average wedding over here.

It's about €200 per head. My hubs and I have done weddings for much less than €400 and that included our usual €150 gift. Plus, it seems like you have to pay for the three nights or nothing. Nightmare. I enjoy most weddings but hate the second day palavers! One day is enough for me!

The Backwards Man · 20-09-2017 04:24PM

SAMTALK wrote: »

Think you might have to explain that to poster :D

:pac:
When no other horse turns up, you walk your horse over the line to win the race.

W/O.

meep · 20-09-2017 04:24PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Well, the Keadeen Hotel is in Newbridge and I'm sure she's from Newbridge, so I checked the fixtures. If the wedding is on this Saturday, Sarsfields and Moorefield (the two Newbridge teams) are playing each other at 5.15 in the 2017 Reserve A Championship Final. That's important, isn't it?

Isn't it??

You are wrong and have not been following wither the article, the original radio broadcast or even this thread.

The match in question is being played in Cavan at 8pm on Saturday. (It's a county championship semi-final - quite a big deal). It's reasonable to infer that the bride is from Kildare or environs and the groom is from one of the Cavan towns involved and likely involved in one of the teams if a significant number of players were invited to the wedding.

El Weirdo · 20-09-2017 04:26PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Well, the Keadeen Hotel is in Newbridge and I'm sure she's from Newbridge, so I checked the fixtures. If the wedding is on this Saturday, Sarsfields and Moorefield (the two Newbridge teams) are playing each other at 5.15 in the 2017 Reserve A Championship Final. That's important, isn't it?

Isn't it??

It's the Cavan Senior Championship semi final.

_Dara_ · 20-09-2017 04:26PM

GingerLily wrote: »

Average wedding gifts are nearer 50pounds pp in the UK (at most), much lower then here.

Yeah, true, I forgot that! Less money tends to be thrown around at UK weddings.

weldoninhio · 20-09-2017 04:26PM

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It has been clearly explained to you, i now think you are on a windup. For championship games at this stage, both teams and the county board have to agree the date. Its not, your playing on the 24th. It can be a long drawn out, sometimes fractious negotiation.

meep · 20-09-2017 04:27PM

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It's listed on the fixtures section of the Cavan GAA website;

http://cavangaa.ie/fixtures-results/club/

(the bride mentioned on the radio that the match was in Cavan and involved Kingscourt)

weldoninhio · 20-09-2017 04:27PM

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This will be my last reply. If you do that, the other team get a walk over and get into the final in your place.

Electric Sheep · 20-09-2017 04:28PM

Millie Gentle Pita wrote: »

The price per head also covers far more than just the meal. It covers the drinks reception and finger food etc, it covers the rental of the function room, it (sometimes) covers corkage or wine, it covers the bridal suite and normally rooms for the parents also along with a 5 course meal normally. 60 to 80 per head would be about average but some of hotels go above the 100 euro per head for their higher packages. A smaller wedding also makes it more expensive and worse if people drop out. If you are inviting 250 plus a few no shows wont bother the hotel but most hotels have minimum number depending on the size of the venue and dropping below this will not be let slide by the hotel. I reckon the 130 is probably close to minimum for the hotel in question.

Also I don't know where people are attending weddings but I don't think I ever had a bad meal and some have been absolutely delicious and mountains off it too.

But you are fond of carveries, aren't you?

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freshpopcorn · 20-09-2017 04:29PM

I know lots of people and if they were in this situation where an important match was on and they agreed to go to the wedding but couldn't in the end they would still have given the couple the gift. The bride probably has blown her chances of this now.

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seamus · 20-09-2017 04:31PM

_Dara_ wrote: »

What do people make of this story on the Beeb from today, a couple in the UK asking upfront for everyone to give £150 towards their wedding? £150 a head is a lot of money, and some of those heads are children! It's a three day "all inclusive" event. The couple can't afford the wedding they want. I think it's cheeky because various guests might only want to attend one day and budget for that. But apparently everyone has paid up! :eek: The groom says "why not put the money towards the wedding than a business owner?" but surely that money people have paid is going towards various businesses?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-41317297

£50 per head per night for a wedding - presumably including breakfast & reception dinner - seems like insane value to me.

I can see how it seems cheeky, but in effect they're booking a package holiday for a wedding, much like a stag or hen is booked. You pay your fee or you don't go.

Depends on your guests. I know lots of people just grin and bare weddings, but most people genuinely don't. The 60 adults and 20 kids are probably all extended family or close friends and dying to go. None of that "Mammy's co-worker" and "the woman who used to babysit you" nonsense.

GingerLily · 20-09-2017 04:36PM

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Sorry - had to laugh at the bolded line. Youd know you were in Ireland anyway.

Everything you have described above is the way most people who take exercise seriously behave.

I dont really see anything special about it. My gym is full morning, noon and night with people who are taking their own personal training seriously.

How is it a sacrifice when people do something they want to do? Itd be a sacrifice if they hated it alright. But they hardly do it because they hate it - otherwise theyd all be skipping the game and going to the wedding.

So you're a fan of GAA ye?

weldoninhio · 20-09-2017 04:38PM

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Most people who exercise seriously would get up at 4-5am, go beach running/gym work, go do a days work in an office, building site etc, then that evening head back up to the club for another hour or two conditioning, skills, tactics training 3 to 4 times a week, as well as play games at the weekend?? You are talking nonsense.

And it is a sacrifice because they miss time with their families, friends, special occasions (like say, a wedding), pretty much anything a normal person does in the evening.

SAMTALK · 20-09-2017 04:38PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

:pac:
When no other horse turns up, you walk your horse over the line to win the race.

W/O.

Irish bride-to-be pleads with hotel

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