High Noon with George Hook.

Swanner wrote: »

Is this an internet first :pac:

Fair play though.. takes a real man to stand up and say he was wrong..

Assuming you are one..

(BTW I don't give a **** about non gender bias bollix before anyone starts)



No I was speaking specifically about female presenters.

It is for me... and I actually think some of the main arguments posed above show I've more reading and thinking to do before formulating a POV.

For now, I retract what I said. For the sake of the debate I won't delete my comments and allow others to continue on as normal.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

That post doesn't surprise me at all.

I think his politics or former politics are colouring your opinions,mate.

Lad is a solid broadcaster, not some champagne 'socialist' like the likes of Dunphy and God help us people like Kerrigan on the back page.

Cooper is way to reedy and high voiced for me- won't be tuning in- yet.

Hopefully those who have to implement things won't be thrown to those who have no responsibilities like the incredibly biased Browne used as an M.O.

Maybe Coppinger will get a grilling ?

Yates might be the lad to skewer her.

It's not the politics of anyone who's colouring my opinions..."mate".

I'm not going to get into a waste of time in a word war with you about Ivan Yates Brendan. It would be pointless.

I'm sure Fine Gael need defending on some other thread. Off you go.

Vunderground wrote: »

There is one word I've not seen in all the posts, the Twitter meltdown and elsewhere - forgiveness.

Just saying...

You obviously haven't been looking very hard.

Just saying:

Del.Monte wrote: »

I forgive Hook for this faux pas, but last week he

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Totally agree. He annoys the hell out of me at times but would hate to have seen him retire in disgrace. I thought he gave a good full apology today. We all make mistakes. Time to forgive and forget on this issue
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Slieve Gullion wrote: »

I've had a change of heart and think he should be forgiven. He's apologised so let it go now.

But maybe 'forgive' and 'forgiven' don't cut it?

Ray Purchase wrote: »

So in practice "not for me, but sure leave him at it".

Exactly.

You have multiple stations you can listen to, multiple presenters.

Different strokes, freedom of choice, and all that ??

Or do you just want a bland field of sameness where everyone thinks like you, agrees with your and just plain is a mirror image of you ??

and anyone who expresses a different or contrarian viewpoint should be screamed down and beaten into submission ???

suicide_circus wrote: »

My feeling is that hook was a release valve. That valve is now gone.

How do you mean?

Where's Popey during all this? Are him and George buddies or has George annoyed him too?

The upshot of this entire fiasco is the George bleedin Hook is a martyr figure for people who like to "tell it like it is".

Well done, Chris, Dil & friends. Really well done. I hope none of you ever does anything as heinous as making a bad choice of words. I don't think the public will be too sympathetic if and when you do.

brooke 2 wrote: »

Isn't it amazing that Paul Williams is still there while Sarah McInerney and Colette Fitzpatrick are gone? Even though I would not be a great fan of either woman, both are streets ahead of Williams.

Why is it possible for RTÉ to have so many women on their various programmes, even sports, and there does not seem to be an issue (apart from paying
them less than the men!)? Mary Wilson has been doing Drivetime for years. The numbers are consistently high. I presume men as well as women listen
to her. Joanne Cantwell is regarded highly as a sports presenter, as is Jacqui Hurley. Claire Byrne, even though she has her detractors on here, also brings
in the numbers. So, it can't be an issue that men are better presenters, as women have made it on many other stations here and abroad. Is it perhaps the case, as was said on SO'R last Friday, that Newstalk is perceived to be 'BlokesRadio' and the little woman should know her place and do all the low-paid researching/producing work in the background? And low-paid it seems to be - apparently Eamon Dunphy has said that during his time in NT the researchers were not even reimbursed for the papers which they bought to do their research.

My wife for some reason hated Sarah and Chris as a combo because they seem to spend the whole time trying the whole banter and inside jokes.

I think the difference between the stations is RTE pays better but i could also nearly guarantee they have a decent training program.

Claire Byrne is case in point when she was on Newstalk she was woeful as like Chris (i think she taught him this) she always started a piece from a position of outrage/bias. Ever since she moved to RTE she has become really professional in her delivery and is one of the better presenters.

Is it a case that newstalk isn't exactly blokes radio but is a private operated radio station, that spends little on the way of developing its staff and will dump a poor presenter very fast if the numbers dont cut it.

You only have to look at presenters after Eamonn Dunphy left i believe there was a lady doing the morning drive time slot for a while. I don't think she was removed because she was a women more the numbers werent the same.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

What are your criteria for referring to the lad as a "slimy prick" then?

Can you outline your evaluation on that extremely insulting description

I could give you my reasons for the same evaluation of Yates but then children read these boards too.

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Where's Popey during all this? Are him and George buddies or has George annoyed him too?

.

My initial thought was poor Popey is too busy battling with Ryanair

Then the penny dropped, you're talking about Mr. Brent Pope.... that is an excellent question.... However, I always got the impression that apart from working together as pundits that they weren't really that close.

Ivan Yates & Matt Cooper's new show is kicking off tonight on TV3 @ 11pm. (They're replacing Vinny .

It's amazing how much my feelings towards both men has changed in a week. I know lots of people say they don't like listening to Matt's show because of his voice but I always held him in high regard. He is one of the few Communicorp employees who covers Dinny O'Brien stories and is critical of him and his dealings at times. Remember when he filleted Dinny's spokesman James Morrissey last year, lets just say that interview never made the podcast, it was cut out.

I thought Cooper's treatment of the George Hook controversy on his radio show last Monday was really nasty and personal. I lost a lot of respect for Matt.

As for Ivan, he admitted on air in the past that the only person in Newstalk that he was close to was George, he explained how George was great friend to him, especially when he was in exile in Swansea for a year.

When I heard Ivan speak on his show last Friday, I thought he sounded very like a Newstalk HR manager and I felt he distanced himself a bit from his good friend George. There was some criticism of Dr. Ciara leaving it until Saturday to speak up for George but I think Ivan was as a bad. Pat Kenny was the only one who came out early in the week.

I'm going to watch their new show tonight, I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but I'm not sure my feelings towards them will ever be the same again

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

When Eamon Dunphy is on form, he can conduct a decent interview. I love listening back to podcasts of his old Radio One interview series - 'Conversations with Eamon Dunphy 2006 - 2009'. Like Gay, he isn't afraid of letting his guest go off on a tangent...this tends to result in far more relaxed and interesting interviews. It's a welcome break from Tubs and D'arcy's pre-prepared questions.

This afternoon, I listened to Eamon interviewing Oliver Callan, apart from the first five minutes when Callan was taking off Paschal Donohue (taking off his lisp...which I hate, I think it's a bit unfair to Paschal), the rest of the interview was pretty good. I've heard Callan being interviewed loads of times but most of the previous interviewers only seemed to be interested in his sexuality and his impressions, Dunphy allowed him to talk about all sorts.

They discussed his childhood in Monaghan, living close to the border in the 80's during the troubles, moving to Dublin to study journalism in DCU, joining Today FM, working on Gift Grub with Mario and Ian, his altercation with Paul Galvin, working with Gerry Ryan and finally, Callan's Kicks.

ive got that one lined up for tomorrow when im going for my walk (good 8 to 10km job).

i really like callen. he's written some interesting peices i wouldnt expect from a journo these days (though i suppose despite being qualified as one he's really an entertainer now. hence how he seems to have no prob diverting from the "Acceptable" line. some of his interviews with marion for instance have been a right laugh )

i listened to his interview with karl deeter today. a good 58min or so on the housing crisis , economics , and the like. i had to laugh as at at least 3 occasions deeter clearly hesitated in giving an opinion and at least once asked if it was ok to answer a question !

the tyranny that must exist in the radio world now must be unreal. you could sense the sheer relief the lad felt at just being able to speak his mind without some illiberal nutter going for him.

its the one thing i always give dunphy. hes not interested in browbeating people into agreeing with his postition. he actually wants to hear what people think.

almost like he knows its good radio or sommat !



anyway ive got it bookmarked now and theres a good 80 odd shows i can dip into. thanks for pointing me in that direction.

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

I know, but if I was George, I'd be disappointed in Ciara and Ivan, Pat is the only person who made any decent effort. (I suppose PK is in the lucky position that he has little to lose, he is almost 70).

Ciara yes i understand, Ivan know. The reason i say this is Ivan jokingly in the past would have said things certain individuals would not like and i can guarantee he would have been hung out to dry.

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

My initial thought was poor Popey is too busy battling with Ryanair

Then the penny dropped, you're talking about Mr. Brent Pope.... that is an excellent question.... However, I always got the impression that apart from working together as pundits that they weren't really that close.

I think they have talked about it before on air they are good they have a very good professional friendship but would never go out to dinner or socialise. I don't think they dislike each other but Popey is wise enough to leave alone especially with all that has gone on