High Noon with George Hook.

Ray Purchase wrote: »

What else would you expect from a liberal luvvie like Yates, right?

LOLwut? Yates is a liberal luvvie?

Interesting that Ivan isnt going down the easy out - saying that what GH said was clumsly but is a good guy and has been for years - but he went beyond that to criticise not only what George said but also his views.

This whole unfortunate debacle has certainly shown up quite a number of public figures for the pathetic followers that they are..

Strangely enough, for me it's the 3 I like the least that have come out looking the best..

One of them is George himself..

It's certainly been a victory of sorts for those who enjoy a good ol dose of outrage and offense although they've actually done their cause huge damage. They're just too caught up in their outrage and offense right now to have the sense of calm and foresight required to see it.

Common sense and freedom to articulate an opinion are the real losers here though..

It's kinda scary when you think about where all this politically correct horse ****e is going to lead us in the end.

Never thought i'd think or say or think this but give me old fashioned conservative right wing values any day..

And that's where the left are pushing normally middle of the road people like me..

Keep it up folks.. Every time you open your gobs and get outraged you lose a little bit more..

Please keep it up :-)

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

This is the sort of rubbish that gets me though.. We are lectured about equality all the time by RTE and Newstalk... What about finding the best new talent, whether they be male or female?.. I mean when that backstabber was on with Marion Finucane at the weekend, she pointed out that almost all of the producers of the shows are female.. Where is the outrage for equality of opportunity for male producers.. Should quotas not be introduced there too?

Or course, a cold honest reading of the situation might be that maybe men are more suited to presenting and women are more suited to being producers. But not that I have just said that, I'm expecting Dil to be picketing the office by lunch time.

My guess, and its just a guess, is that there may have been some shenanigans of some sort that led to Collete Fitzpatrick leaving the breakfast programme. I felt the editor in her statement at the weekend was keen to show that it had nothing to do with any anti-women issue. When Sarah McInerney was chopped from DriveTime and zero women were on air weekdays primetime, an unfortunate pattern emerged and got the backs up of female media commentators.

My own opinion is that I dont think Paul Williams is as good as Collette Fitzpatrick and I dont think Chris O'Donoghue and many others are as good as Sarah McInerney. I think its wrong to assume that they arent on air because they are women, but it has led to an unfortunate pattern on newstalk.

Morgans wrote: »

Yeah, thats a sexist viewpoint. No need to apologise for it, its your view, but nevertheless sexist.

There are plenty of very good female broadcasters out there, many of which would be far superior to some of the current male presenters on newstalk. And far better than Dil also! Just newstalk doesn't have any on.

Indeed.. I used to make an effort not to be any kind of "ist" but **** that.. People will get outraged anyway so might as well just say it as I see it..

I'm not saying all female presenters are poor. Just most of them imo..

Seems like Yates' remarks are a bit of a disappointment. More power to him. I always thought he was a bit of fraud who'd literally go anywhere to generate a spot of self-serving controversy. Appears even he has a red line.

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Ivan has backed the wrong horse enough times. He's not going to take any further risks.

Also Hog and Grunt applies in Ivan's case - an out an out opportunist.

Swanner wrote: »

Indeed.. I used to make an effort not to be any kind of "ist" but **** that.. People will get outraged anyway so might as well just say it as I see it..

I'm not saying all female presenters are poor. Just most of them imo..

At least you are honest in your opinion. However, Dil and her likes have every right to call out individuals (and organisations) who hold this view as sexist. There are plenty who get all hot and bothered when being called sexist for having sexist views.

I personally dont agree that females make worse presenters. That of course is very much in the eye of the beholder. I don't think its as clear cut as saying that the best female footballers are miles behind the best males. I think Newstalk might consider an attempt to poach someone like Keelin Shanley from RTE to try to clear up this mess.

Morgans wrote: »

At least you are honest in your opinion. However, Dil and her likes have every right to call out individuals (and organisations) who hold this view as sexist.

Indeed they do.

Shame they don't afford others the same freedoms though isn't it..

kunst nugget wrote: »

The argument used for not having more female presenters is that most female presenters are poor kind of falls apart when you look at how poor most male presenters are.

Indeed but if you only said "most male presenters are ****" you would just get people nodding and laughing.

If you instead only said "most female presenters are ****" people will call you sexist.

I agree we have a dearth of good presenters across both genders and i dont think it has anything to do with the gender of the presenter either. Im just saying theres a double standard of who you are allowed criticise.

TBH the conclusion ive come to is the problem is the over reliance on journalists.

look at some of the most popular best paid broadasters we have still out there now.

marion

joe

pat

dempsy

Darcy.

what have they got in common? None of them are jounalists graduates. christ even VinnyB is a barrister by training. IMO if newstalk want to REALLY compete they need to get away from the toxic levels of nutters thats falling out of that course now

broadcasters ARENT polical activists with microphones

thinking they are is whats fuking up the nationl airwaves. at their core the BEST broadcasters are about asking questions and engaging in a debate in a manner that the general public finds engrossing. thats what pat the engineer and marion the architect bring to their shows. but ultimately they see themselves AS broadcasters.

meaning they could just as easily end up in a career spinning disks as they are grilling politicans.

ask yourself- look at newstalks line up and imagine if ANY of them could present a pop music show. this is what seperates tom dunne, pat kenny, ivan et al from chris donoghue Paul williams and Dill.

it says a lot that the LAST time RTE really had it put up to them was when the pirates were pissing all over them on the ratings fronts in the 80s.

and that was just a bunch of kids arsing around in a garage half the time.

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Just tuned in, hoping that ANYONE other than Dr. Ciara would be presenting today.

I reckon she's here to say now

*Time to listen to a podcast.

im currently streaming the half of pats show from today that i missed listening to sean o rourke.

been working out grand to get me to the 1 o clock news.