High Noon with George Hook.

constitutionus wrote: »

im currently streaming the half of pats show from today that i missed listening to sean o rourke.

been working out grand to get me to the 1 o clock news.

I'm missing George I feel the need to listen to a grumpy/contrary old man so I'm listening to Eamon Dunphy's The Stand podcast now.

i didnt know dunphy was still doing anything.

cheers for that, i'll look it up.

Swanner wrote: »

There's a shocking stink off Newstalk right now and it's well deserved in imo..

They'll have lost a considerable number of listeners but then that's what happens when you let a small minority of the perpetually morally offended and outraged set the agenda for you..

Wouldn't it be great if this turned out to be a turning point in public opinion where those of us who couldn't give a fiddlers fuk about political correctness and all the nonsense that accompanies it would no longer have to listen to these snivelling whingers on the air waves or elsewhere for that matter..

I sincerely doubt it but one can always dream

I love how people are so OUTRAGED by the OUTRAGE of the PC brigade and in doing so create their own centre, right-wing brigade to complain about how the lefty liberals are running the show.... when it is actually just good, decent men and women who think that words have consequences. I'm sure the same crazy anti-PC brigade would look for Hook to be pulled off the air should he have said something supportive of Ibrahim Hallaway.

Swanner wrote: »

There's a shocking stink off Newstalk right now and it's well deserved in imo..

They'll have lost a considerable number of listeners but then that's what happens when you let a small minority of the perpetually morally offended and outraged set the agenda for you..

Wouldn't it be great if this turned out to be a turning point in public opinion where those of us who couldn't give a fiddlers fuk about political correctness and all the nonsense that accompanies it would no longer have to listen to these snivelling whingers on the air waves or elsewhere for that matter..

I sincerely doubt it but one can always dream

pretty much how i see it. whatever about what he said, and you could go around in circles about whether it was right or wrong (i think it was wrong) but he apologised, let's move on.
it's now turned into my way or the high way. and my way is that of the journal.ie/collette browne/any other journalist under 40.

the thing is, they're piss poor when in a debate with someone of the opposite view on their own. they pull out all the cliches like 'white male privilege' etc which to me is like saying 'yore ma' when you're a kid. it means you've lost and just clutching at straws.

now they have to gang up and just have someone they don't like removed.

btw someone above mentioned kelly on today fm. i'm presuming it's kelly-anne byrne. possibly the best dj on the radio at the moment. she really knows her stuff about good music.

never_mind wrote: »

I love how people are so OUTRAGED by the OUTRAGE of the PC brigade and in doing so create their own centre, right-wing brigade to complain about how the lefty liberals are running the show.... when it is actually just good, decent men and women who think that words have consequences. I'm sure the same crazy anti-PC brigade would look for Hook to be pulled off the air should he have said something supportive of Ibrahim Hallaway.

No outrage on my part.. I'm just giving an opinion as I see it..

You sound a bit outraged yourself that people would be outraged about the outrage.. but when you calm down a bit you are free of course to disagree.

Yakuza wrote: »

Yep, jingle sounds like it's cut off abruptly. He's still mentioned on the header of the website (to the left the streaming buttons).

I had just noticed that.. It says..

"George Hook delivers his one of a kind daily dose of no-holds-barred comment and opinion every weekday"

Should have read "no holds barred as long as it doesn't upset the delicate sensitivities of the small minority out seeking to be offended and outraged at every turn.."

never_mind wrote: »

I love how people are so OUTRAGED by the OUTRAGE of the PC brigade and in doing so create their own centre, right-wing brigade to complain about how the lefty liberals are running the show.... when it is actually just good, decent men and women who think that words have consequences. I'm sure the same crazy anti-PC brigade would look for Hook to be pulled off the air should he have said something supportive of Ibrahim Hallaway.

I don't think anyone believes words shouldn't have consequences, I think why people are annoyed is because of the liberal mob seemingly running around inflating it for more than it is.

This incident was used for more than one axe to grind with Newstalk and that all came out of the woodwork. If it was a case of just challenging him on what he said it would be one thing but there was allot more to this.

Ray Purchase wrote: »

Good luck to them. Midday radio is a blasted wilderness. Those listeners who "move through dial" will have to content themselves with vacuous chart music or dry, unadorned news. That or listen to crackly shipping forecasts on the BBC world service.

I don't disagree..

The end result doesn't change though.

They have lost loyal listeners..

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

I'm missing George

I feel the need to listen to a grumpy/contrary old man so I'm listening to Eamon Dunphy's The Stand podcast now.

constitutionus wrote: »

i didnt know dunphy was still doing anything.

cheers for that, i'll look it up.

When Eamon Dunphy is on form, he can conduct a decent interview. I love listening back to podcasts of his old Radio One interview series - 'Conversations with Eamon Dunphy 2006 - 2009'. Like Gay, he isn't afraid of letting his guest go off on a tangent...this tends to result in far more relaxed and interesting interviews. It's a welcome break from Tubs and D'arcy's pre-prepared questions.

This afternoon, I listened to Eamon interviewing Oliver Callan, apart from the first five minutes when Callan was taking off Paschal Donohue (taking off his lisp...which I hate, I think it's a bit unfair to Paschal), the rest of the interview was pretty good. I've heard Callan being interviewed loads of times but most of the previous interviewers only seemed to be interested in his sexuality and his impressions, Dunphy allowed him to talk about all sorts.

They discussed his childhood in Monaghan, living close to the border in the 80's during the troubles, moving to Dublin to study journalism in DCU, joining Today FM, working on Gift Grub with Mario and Ian, his altercation with Paul Galvin, working with Gerry Ryan and finally, Callan's Kicks.

never_mind wrote: »

I love this. It is actually laughable that anyone thinks there is a leftist mob running around controlling the media. LOL. Who are they, where are they, and how did they directly influence the decision of a private company? You remind me of my racist, paranoid next door neighbour who sits on Facebook all day resharing things about the snowflake generation... It's funny that the snowflake generation is the one that celebrates diversity in other people and isn't as selfish as it seems..

Hook is a fool. His words were foolish and he crossed a line inferring that this person deserved what she got. If I went on air and said that a murder victim deserved what they got they'd cut the mic. Free speech does not mean free for all.

We had a serving TD only last week on another station essentially build up the argument that there is a big rape culture going on in newstalk propped up by it's all male staff . They don't control the media you are right but are trying to be the thought police in Ireland

You remind me of the usual snow flake left you only celebrate the right kind of diversity, everything that doesn't fit your mold is racist,Nazi ect ect.

Hook is a fool that we both agree on he should have been very careful in how he worded what he said if even said it at all but the goings on around this one makes him look like somewhat of a victim.

They took the mention of Hook out of the High Noon jingle

Lt Dan wrote: »

"It is actually laughable that anyone thinks there is a leftist mob running around controlling the media. LOL"

Really?

Go read The Lost Revolution: The Story of the Official IRA and the Workers Party by Brian Hanley & Scott Millar. Especially the staff at RTE during the 1980's (Eoghan Harris and co) Stuff has been written about Mary McAlleese about her time at RTE and bashing heads with them Justine McCarthy

Rightly or wrongly, there was always an understanding that the Left, ie Labour (well, whenever they play left politics) had a big presence at RTE. Eoghan, who is no longer there,obviously changed his tune , as so often as he did

"If I went on air and said that a murder victim deserved what they got they'd cut the mic. Free speech does not mean free for all"

Here is the thing, George Hook never said that any girl "deserved" to be rapped.

"But there is a point of responsibility. The real issues nowadays and increasingly is the question of the personal responsibility that young girls are taking for their own safety." = she deserved it.

A few problems here with your post

- We are talking about Newstalk not RTÉ
- We are talking about 2017 not the 1980s
- We are talking about a 'brigade' of fearful 'outraged' people who think a misogynist deserves a job...

An example. A private school has employed a religion teacher. The school has told her to follow the RE syllabus for Catholic Schools. The teacher does just that but says some outlandish things to parents at the parents-teacher night and the school steps in after the teachers give out and fire her. If her comments were out there enough I can see why the teachers would want rid of a teacher in case that the parents begin to think that other members of staff think like that. A member of a company usually follows the cultural ethos of a company and while he is entitled to say whatever he wants no matter how mad, the company is entitled to pull him off the air.

There is not a massive conspiracy of the lovely lefties trying to get rid of old white men from their jobs - political correctness should mean a common level of respect and decency when talking to people (i.e. you don't drop the N word to describe someone of afro-descent, you don't use outdated terms for those with disabilities, you don't offend people with your CHOICE of language and/or terminology - I say 'don't' but I mean 'shouldn't' because there is a mannerly way a person of actual decency should talk which should be second nature to them).

George Hook is not a respectful man. His apology meant he knew what he said wasn't right... what's so hard to understand?

Calhoun wrote: »

You remind me of the usual snow flake left you only celebrate the right kind of diversity, everything that doesn't fit your mold is racist,Nazi ect ect.

I think there is a massive difference in saying that 'snowflakes' celebrate the 'right' kind of diversity and branding someone a nazi/racist for their views. Common decency should be the most important thing here.

What bothers me is this cohort of people who are throwing around terms like snowflake but then go onto say that the left is all too happy to call them out for being nazis/racists? Hypocrisy at its finest.

never_mind wrote: »

Calhoun wrote: »

You remind me of the usual snow flake left you only celebrate the right kind of diversity, everything that doesn't fit your mold is racist,Nazi ect ect.

I think there is a massive difference in saying that 'snowflakes' celebrate the 'right' kind of diversity and branding someone a nazi/racist for their views. Common decency should be the most important thing here.

What bothers me is this cohort of people who are throwing around terms like snowflake  but then go onto say that the left is all too happy to call them out for being nazis/racists? Hypocrisy at its finest.

Agreed common decency should come first and foremost, which is why i am suprised when i said there was liberal mob running around (i never said snowflake at first) that i was then likened to a racist.
What bothers me is how a discussion as nuanced at this one is cut down to being simple black and white, the behavior on one side is more deplorable than the other so it means the other side can act however they like. Its like the concept of using violence to silence people with opinions we dont like.
I wouldnt start talking about hypocrisy if i was you, there are two of us in it.