New Proposed Sheep Scheme

Hard Knocks · 07-09-2017 09:11AM

Need a little advice
Doing the Mineral Supplements post Mating, generally give Vit drench 2 weeks pre mating & was intending doing same this year.
Reading drench it doesn't give advice on follow up, was thinking 4-6 weeks after first dose, would that be suffice, or should I go sooner?

rangler1 · 08-09-2017 10:04PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Need a little advice
Doing the Mineral Supplements post Mating, generally give Vit drench 2 weeks pre mating & was intending doing same this year.
Reading drench it doesn't give advice on follow up, was thinking 4-6 weeks after first dose, would that be suffice, or should I go sooner?

Whatever mineral you use it has to say it's for ewes and it has to say how long it lasts...ie if it states that it lasts 2 weeks, you have to ensure that you have given it enough times to cover the eight weeks after ram turnout, also record each time you give it in your sheep welfare record book. so if it doesn't state how long it lasts it won't be accepted.
On a practical level, I always reckon that there's only enough mins and vits in those doses to last two or three weeks.
You should really check it out with someone qualified as it's worth a good bit of money

Lambman · 09-09-2017 05:56AM

Did anyone not get the sheep welfare book? I Cana find one and never mind even recieving one?

Sheep breeder · 15-09-2017 09:34PM

Any body sort out mineral end for scheme, how are people finding bolus and which seem to work and any prices.

Hard Knocks · 15-09-2017 10:23PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Any body sort out mineral end for scheme, how are people finding bolus and which seem to work and any prices.

Giving Sheep Boost @ 2 weeks before letting out ram & a second 5 weeks later

Lambman · 15-09-2017 10:29PM

Was on vets today looking about mineral supplements I said I wanted a good one so I got golden something or other for the lambs I'm keeping on expensive stuff tho it supposed till last a long time and it's a drench... anyone use it b4?

orm0nd · 15-09-2017 11:34PM

gave animax C and SE/I to all the ewes about 3 weeks before rams.

gave the ewe lambs sheep boost last week and will give them another shot when letting off rams .. about 4 weeks time

Western Pomise · 15-09-2017 11:50PM

orm0nd wrote: »

gave animax C and SE/I to all the ewes about 3 weeks before rams.

gave the ewe lambs sheep boost last week and will give them another shot when letting off rams .. about 4 weeks time

Is 'Sheep Boost' a mineral drench?....how does it differ to likes of Bovithrive or Cobalt + B 12 drench?

charolais0153 · 16-09-2017 06:48AM

Gavethem a bolus called zincosel that we got from vet

razor8 · 16-09-2017 07:28AM

Growvite is the best drench there is imo with high levels of all the major trace elements. Most of the others are over priced and made from same company but have a different sticker on the front it

orm0nd · 16-09-2017 07:58PM

Western Pomise wrote: »

Is 'Sheep Boost' a mineral drench?....how does it differ to likes of Bovithrive or Cobalt + B 12 drench?

http://www.naturalstockcareshop.co.uk/sheep-care/sheep-boost-2.5-litre/

cuculainn · 18-09-2017 01:49PM

Ovitrace plus is what we were recommended...

Lasts 6 weeks, so will have to do a few times

DJ98 · 01-11-2017 06:28PM

When is payment for participants in the scheme expected?

charolais0153 · 01-11-2017 07:52PM

DJ98 wrote: »

When is payment for participants in the scheme expected?

June 2018 i think

DJ98 · 01-11-2017 09:25PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

June 2018 i think

Oh, I thought that you got paid each year?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 01-11-2017 09:27PM

DJ98 wrote: »

Oh, I thought that you got paid each year?

That's this years money, a year in arrears.

Cran · 02-11-2017 12:02AM

DJ98 wrote: »

Oh, I thought that you got paid each year?

Thought I read 85% Nov/Dec and remaining 15% 2018

charolais0153 · 02-11-2017 07:29AM

The scanning part has to be completed by 24th of feb so itll be at least a few months after the forms are sent in before the money is given out

Cran · 02-11-2017 08:14AM

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/sheep-welfare-scheme-payments-to-be-earlier-and-bigger-than-expected-314215

Sheep breeder · 02-11-2017 11:04PM

Money will be paid when measures taken are completed and book is checked

Cran · 02-11-2017 11:30PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Money will be paid when measures taken are completed and book is checked

Maybe but they've completed the book audit already, it's just a sample. Got audited here over month ago

Sheep breeder · 02-11-2017 11:46PM

Cran wrote: »

Maybe but they've completed the book audit already, it's just a sample. Got audited here over month ago

Yes only a small amount are checked, most went for scanning and that won't be finished till February

J.O. Farmer · 03-11-2017 12:43AM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Yes only a small amount are checked, most went for scanning and that won't be finished till February

Was the scanning for this year not done last February.

tom_k · 03-11-2017 12:52AM

Closing date for applications was 31st January 2017. Therefore the scanning measure for the first application year would be carried out for most between November 2017 and February 2018 depending on lambing time.

I don't think a scanning receipt issued prior to 31st January 2017 would be accepted for this years scheme as farmers weren't informed whether they'd been accepted into the scheme and given their reference numbers until February/March 2017.

ganmo · 03-11-2017 01:26PM

tom_k wrote: »

Closing date for applications was 31st January 2017. Therefore the scanning measure for the first application year would be carried out for most between November 2017 and February 2018 depending on lambing time.

I don't think a scanning receipt issued prior to 31st January 2017 would be accepted for this years scheme as farmers weren't informed whether they'd been accepted into the scheme and given their reference numbers until February/March 2017.

Ya the scanning receipt we got was for the 3rd of Feb. The dept rang to see see if we had completed scanning for the year before asking for the book to be sent in

Bleating Lamb · 04-11-2017 12:15AM

ganmo wrote: »

tom_k wrote: »

Closing date for applications was 31st January 2017. Therefore the scanning measure for the first application year would be carried out for most between November 2017 and February 2018 depending on lambing time.

I don't think a scanning receipt issued prior to 31st January 2017 would be accepted for this years scheme as farmers weren't informed whether they'd been accepted into the scheme and given their reference numbers until February/March 2017.

Ya the scanning receipt we got was for the 3rd of Feb. The dept rang to see see if we had completed scanning for the year before asking for the book to be sent in

So are the Dept accepting that Feb 3rd 2017 scan for your first year in Scheme?....I was also under the impression that for those ( me included) who chose scanning as an option could only use the scan for 2018 lambing season to count for the first year of the scheme.

razor8 · 04-11-2017 12:28PM

To my knowledge the scheme officially started on a date on February. If you scanned after that date in 2017 it can be included

ganmo · 04-11-2017 08:31PM

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

So are the Dept accepting that Feb 3rd 2017 scan for your first year in Scheme?.

Yup

If you scanned before the start of the scheme ya had to wait till the '18 season

Bleating Lamb · 05-11-2017 12:28AM

ganmo wrote: »

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

So are the Dept accepting that Feb 3rd 2017 scan for your first year in Scheme?.

Yup

If you scanned before the start of the scheme ya had to wait till the '18 season

So are you hoping to be paid earlier than people who have to wait till 2018 scan?

Sheep breeder · 05-11-2017 08:29AM

ganmo wrote: »

Ya the scanning receipt we got was for the 3rd of Feb. The dept rang to see see if we had completed scanning for the year before asking for the book to be sent in

Haven't heard of dept ringing anybody about scanning, have heard of letters sent out for books for the early year measures completed at this stage and heard of no inspection taking place yet. At the local meetings in the spring the girl giving the talk stated that scanning and other measures were to be carried out after application date for 2017 onwards and not for 2016 lambing and when all paperwork is cleared then payment would issue.

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