Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

seligehgit · 12-09-2017 11:00PM

PARlance wrote: »

Kevin Kilbane asking the important question! Any chance of wearing the black jersey

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159354824210441&id=10150089120710441

Fair play to Killer, I'd say he'll be in Mayo for the week after if we win.

He's a top Mayo man! Here's his interview with Rochy on OTB.

When Kevin met Stephen. https://cdn.radiocms.net/media/012/audio/000001/57489_media_player_audio_file.mp3

km79 · 12-09-2017 11:04PM

seligehgit wrote: »

PARlance wrote: »

Kevin Kilbane asking the important question! Any chance of wearing the black jersey

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159354824210441&id=10150089120710441

Fair play to Killer, I'd say he'll be in Mayo for the week after if we win.

He's a top Mayo man! Here's his interview with Rochy on OTB.

When Kevin met Stephen. https://cdn.radiocms.net/media/012/audio/000001/57489_media_player_audio_file.mp3

He was commentating in united match tonight on tv3
A couple of minutes before half time he mentioned 1951 , mayo and celebrating all day Monday

Not even sure how it came up !

Dyr · 12-09-2017 11:18PM

finisklin wrote: »

While I think of it.....

Remember speed camera vans will be out on Saturday and Sunday.

Bugger was on the Foxroad road in Ballina last year on the Sunday so slow down.

Hopefully we'll have the clampers out around drumcondra on sunday, a statement needs to be made

seligehgit · 12-09-2017 11:33PM

km79 wrote: »

He was commentating in united match tonight on tv3
A couple of minutes before half time he mentioned 1951 , mayo and celebrating all day Monday
Not even sure how it came up !

Missed that!

It's a very decent episode.He mentions the passing of his Dad a couple of years ago.He was born in 1951 and like some others yearned to see Sam come back to Mayo.So many similar stories.

BonnieSituation · 13-09-2017 01:21AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Missed that! It's a very decent episode.He mentions the passing of his Dad a couple of years ago.He was born in 1951 and like some others yearned to see Sam come back to Mayo.So many similar stories.

I was listening to it earlier on. Defo worth it if you haven't already.

I knew his oul lad had died 18 months ago. But never realised that he was only born in 1951.

My own was born in 1955 and I'm only a year younger than Killer.

Oldtree · 13-09-2017 09:33AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Bla bla bla.. can't see past Dublin...bla bla bla no marquee forward...bla bla bla a long time on the road....bla bla bla Dublin forwards...bla bla bla egos in the Mayo team....

You missed

bla bla bla Dublin bench crucial edge (me hole) .... From Darragh Ó Sé....

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-dublin-s-bench-strength-gives-them-the-crucial-edge-1.3218722

Fr Tod Umptious · 13-09-2017 10:16AM

Oldtree wrote: »

You missed bla bla bla Dublin bench crucial edge (me hole) .... From Darragh S..

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-dublin-s-bench-strength-gives-them-the-crucial-edge-1.3218722

Well based on the headline (and I'm committed to only reading headlines this week), he is correct, Dublin's bench does have the edge over Mayo.

They are a bench full of quality.

Last August I would have said that any challenger to Dublin would need to be a goal up at around 60 mins to withstand the impact the Dublin bench make.

But Kerry were 3 up on 66 mins o think and still lost in 2016, a few weeks later Mayo were 3 down at 70 mins and drew, so that's that theory out the window.

But opponents still need to come up with a plan for that stage in the game when Dublin start using that bench.

Oldtree · 13-09-2017 10:26AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well based on the headline (and I'm committed to only reading headlines this week), he is correct, Dublin's bench does have the edge over Mayo.

They are a bench full of quality.

Last August I would have said that any challenger to Dublin would need to be a goal up at around 60 mins to withstand the impact the Dublin bench make.

But Kerry were 3 up on 66 mins o think and still lost in 2016, a few weeks later Mayo were 3 down at 70 mins and drew, so that's that theory out the window.

But opponents still need to come up with a plan for that stage in the game when Dublin start using that bench.

We took this quality bench to a single point in the replay last year!

I think what Mr Ó Sé meant is that the Dublin bench is on edge

I dont read the articles either

charolais0153 · 13-09-2017 10:30AM

Dublins bench is forwrds and midfielders basically. Not a good defender im sight. If they get balack card for londes e.g theyll have to bring James mccarthy back to defense and do a lot of shuffling around

Stoner · 13-09-2017 10:36AM

Not really. Darren Daly has played in most AI finals and Semi finals and is a proven half back.
Kilkenny can play there and a forward can come in
David Byrne can come in , not at HB though
Personally I'd prefer McCarthy at half-back he's been playing out of his skin there since he was 21 in 2011 MDMA can come in and Imo he's had very good days against Mayo

I left out that
Cian O'Sullivan's Jack McCaffery, John Small and Lowdnes are all HBs so there's a spare there too.

Also there's only one midfielder on the bench, or indeed there's only Fenton and MDMA on the panel as recognised midfileders

ProudDUB · 13-09-2017 10:41AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well based on the headline (and I'm committed to only reading headlines this week), he is correct, Dublin's bench does have the edge over Mayo.

They are a bench full of quality.

Last August I would have said that any challenger to Dublin would need to be a goal up at around 60 mins to withstand the impact the Dublin bench make.

But Kerry were 3 up on 66 mins o think and still lost in 2016, a few weeks later Mayo were 3 down at 70 mins and drew, so that's that theory out the window.

But opponents still need to come up with a plan for that stage in the game when Dublin start using that bench.

Last year, I read a stat, that from 2011 to the then present, Dublin had outscored Kerry something like 5-20 to 0-7 in the final quarter of games. Hence the one way traffic in the champo win/loss column since then. I'd be interested in seeing a similar stat for Dublin v Mayo. You can't really blame a former Kerry player for concentrating on the bench thing. They have been burnt exceptionally badly by it.

Stats can always be interpreted differently to suit the outlook of the person reading them. Mayo coming back from a deficit and drawing games in both 2015 and 2016 has more to do with a horrible rate of conceding frees, one particularly bone headed decision by Diarmuid Connolly (now, there's a shocker ! :rolleyes: ) and very, very poor discipline on Dublins part. You can't really blame an underperforming bench, or say that the final score meant that Mayos is on a par with it. It will still play a very pivotal role on Sunday imo.

blanch152 · 13-09-2017 10:47AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Dublins bench is forwrds and midfielders basically. Not a good defender im sight. If they get balack card for londes e.g theyll have to bring James mccarthy back to defense and do a lot of shuffling around

Lowdnes didn't start the last day.

Fitzsimons, Cooper, McMahon, Small, O'Sullivan, McCaffrey were the starting six. Daly, Lowdnes and Byrne on the bench provide plenty of All-Ireland winning options.

I have said this before but the Dublin bench not only has depth in quality but has a variety of different players that can be used to change the gameplan to alter the direction of the game.

JMurphy84 · 13-09-2017 12:14PM

yop · 13-09-2017 01:01PM

JMurphy84 wrote: »

snip

Shurimgreat · 13-09-2017 02:21PM

Oldtree wrote: »

We took this quality bench to a single point in the replay last year!

It doesn't matter if Dublin won by ten points or 1 point, they still won.

Its not just their bench. Their starting 15 is a lot better this year. Players who were regulars last year are only just making the bench this year. They have been devastating in every game. Last year they looked ropey at times in some games, particularly the first game against Mayo when Mayo should really have put them away but for the own goals.

Dublin have all the players and resources to win this years final comfortably.

Oldtree · 13-09-2017 02:45PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

It doesn't matter if Dublin won by ten points or 1 point, they still won.

They have been devastating in every game.

Dublin have all the players and resources to win this years final comfortably.

Lucky to win last year you mean!!! Keep dreaming

Audioslaven · 13-09-2017 03:01PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

It doesn't matter if Dublin won by ten points or 1 point, they still won.

Its not just their bench. Their starting 15 is a lot better this year. Players who were regulars last year are only just making the bench this year. They have been devastating in every game. Last year they looked ropey at times in some games, particularly the first game against Mayo when Mayo should really have put them away but for the own goals.

Dublin have all the players and resources to win this years final comfortably.

I wouldn't agree with this to be fair. They have not been tested so you can't say they are really better this year. The players on the bench have been around a long time as well and these guys are not making the team so maybe the hunger is not there. They didn't get all their own way against Carlow and kildare either.

Mayo are toe to toe with them in terms of the starting 15. You can argue about the bench as they have forwards that have the medals.

Anyway this is not the best attitude to have. We are good enough so lets go for the fooking big one.

djPSB · 13-09-2017 04:10PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Lowdnes didn't start the last day.

Fitzsimons, Cooper, McMahon, Small, O'Sullivan, McCaffrey were the starting six. Daly, Lowdnes and Byrne on the bench provide plenty of All-Ireland winning options.

I have said this before but the Dublin bench not only has depth in quality but has a variety of different players that can be used to change the gameplan to alter the direction of the game.

The likes of Daly, Lowdnes and Scully are no world beaters, wouldn't be overly worried about them. If they were starting for Mayo on Sunday, they wouldn't even be talked about. They are simply effective cogs in a well oiled Dublin system. Mayo probably have subs just as good as the aforementioned to bring in.

tacofries · 13-09-2017 04:26PM

Reading a lot of sh1te lads. We are going to hammer the Dubs and that's that. Ball burst, game over, Mayo for Sam.

PARlance · 13-09-2017 04:33PM

Stoner wrote: »

Not really. Darren Daly has played in most AI finals and Semi finals and is a proven half back.
Kilkenny can play there and a forward can come in
David Byrne can come in , not at HB though
Personally I'd prefer McCarthy at half-back he's been playing out of his skin there since he was 21 in 2011 MDMA can come in and Imo he's had very good days against Mayo

I left out that
Cian O'Sullivan's Jack McCaffery, John Small and Lowdnes are all HBs so there's a spare there too.

Also there's only one midfielder on the bench, or indeed there's only Fenton and MDMA on the panel as recognised midfileders

I think the strength of the bench is in the forwards though. That's were the class and experience is.

An injury / black card for a couple of Dublin defenders will be warmly welcomed by me. Not because there'll be a ringer coming in, but because it severely curtails the impact of Dublin's attacking bench.

Oldtree · 13-09-2017 04:55PM

I read this article though

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/rochford-and-mayo-still-standing-after-year-of-living-dangerously-1.3218592?mode=amp

Rochford "We look to set ourselves up take the game to the opposition – and invariably look to win the bloody game".

km79 · 13-09-2017 05:32PM

Got the mayo news and Connacht Telegraph up from mayo today
Plenty to keep me going till Sunday !

seligehgit · 13-09-2017 05:36PM

km79 wrote: »

Got the mayo news and Connacht Telegraph up from mayo today
Plenty to keep me going till Sunday !

Super supplement in the Mayo News,shame on me I never purchase my local paper!

seligehgit · 13-09-2017 06:40PM

Gotta love Waterford Whispers News!

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2017/09/13/how-mayo-can-beat-dublin-this-sunday/?utm_source=WWN_Facebook_Page&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=Social_Link&utm_content=Article

seligehgit · 13-09-2017 07:11PM

GAA hour.

The All Ireland final preview show....with NO mention of Dublin's bench.

http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/342183014-sportsjoe-gaa-hour-the-all-ireland-final-preview-showwith-no-mention-of-dublins-bench.mp3

seligehgit · 13-09-2017 09:37PM

Good God Wooly is so biased towards Mayo.

mayo.mick · 13-09-2017 10:19PM

PARlance · 13-09-2017 10:20PM

Breaffy GAA doing a live "Up for the Match" stream on Facebook at the moment.
Panel includes Horan & M Conroy

seligehgit · 13-09-2017 10:23PM

mayo.mick wrote: »

I loathe the prospect of a draw,hoping we'll come out the right side of a definitive outcome on Sunday.:)

seligehgit · 13-09-2017 10:25PM

PARlance wrote: »

Breaffy GAA doing a live "Up for the Match" stream on Facebook at the moment.
Panel includes Horan & M Conroy

Totally forgot about that,I was intending to go to it.:(

Thanks for the heads up Parlance and your kind advice re purchase of any All Ireland tickets.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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