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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,311 ✭✭✭✭sammyjo90


    rubadub wrote: »
    Anybody have club orange super split flavour yet? worried it might be very artificial.

    The "zero" version is 1.50 for 2L in tesco

    https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=296983828

    think it is only available as "zero"

    http://www.britvic.com/media-centre/brand-news/2017/03-07-2017

    <picture snipped>

    Its absolutely rank don't do it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    Whispered wrote: »
    I mentioned ages ago that we needed a new oven. Husband went and got a second hand one and wouldn't you know it, a year on and this one needs to be replaced too.

    So definitely going brand new this time. Just not sure where to start, what to look out for, brands to avoid etc. Budget of €500max.

    Does anywhere do a decent length of warranty? I don't seem to have much luck!

    Any features you love about your oven, or thought you would use but don't really?

    Are any easier to clean and maintain?

    We put in a new IKEA kitchen this year and went with their KULINARISK model. Only have it 4 months but find it really good. Lots of different settings (esp a good one for pizza!) and it heats up quickly. Guarantee for 5 years too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    beertons wrote:
    I went to the fridge earlier to get black olives, to throw into a ragu sauce. Picked up red pesto and put that in instead. Wow.

    You keep olives in the fridge???!!!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,396 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    You keep olives in the fridge???!!!

    Doesn't everyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    beertons wrote: »
    Doesn't everyone?

    Er, no! If it didn't come out of the fridge in the shop then it doesn't go into my fridge at home.

    I once worked with a girl who kept her Ryvita in the fridge. Every time I saw it in there I'd be :confused::confused::confused:


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,396 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Er, no! If it didn't come out of the fridge in the shop then it doesn't go into my fridge at home.

    I once worked with a girl who kept her Ryvita in the fridge. Every time I saw it in there I'd be :confused::confused::confused:


    The presses are full. I've always kept them on the door of the fridge, both green and black. They'll do no harm staying there.

    Ryvita though, I agree with ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I once tweeted something along the lines of "Today I discovered there are two types of people in the world: those who keep their ketchup in the fridge, and normal people".

    Can open; worms everywhere :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tickingclock


    Olives are like eggs. Some people store in the fridge. I don't store olives, ketchup or eggs in the fridge. Ryvita wouldn't get in my front door!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    The ketchup itself will tell you it has to be stored in the fridge after opening :pac:

    I'm not a ketchup user, so although I'm General Kitchen Manager in my house, I'll allow my subordinate store the ketchup wherever he wants to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Malari wrote: »
    The ketchup itself will tell you it has to be stored in the fridge after opening :pac:

    That's a "we're covering our ass" instruction that a lot of manufacturers add to pretty much everything, much like the "...and consume within 3 days" nonsense. Imagine the waste if everyone did that!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    That's a "we're covering our ass" instruction that a lot of manufacturers add to pretty much everything, much like the "...and consume within 3 days" nonsense. Imagine the waste if everyone did that!

    I know. Hence the "wokka wokka!" emoji :P

    But I know several people who don't consume anything beyond the best before date, as they wouldn't "risk" it. Drives me insane. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Malari wrote: »
    But I know several people who don't consume anything beyond the best before date, as they wouldn't "risk" it. Drives me insane. :rolleyes:

    I'm a big believer in the sniff test meself!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,396 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    I once tweeted something along the lines of "Today I discovered there are two types of people in the world: those who keep their ketchup in the fridge, and normal people".


    Oh dear.

    I'm just going to pop out now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Children, children !!

    Everybody knows that olives should be stored in ......



    ..........the BIN :p:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Er, no! If it didn't come out of the fridge in the shop then it doesn't go into my fridge at home.
    Many things on the shelf are sterilized, so will last indefinitely in a jar/tin/tub, but the moment they are opened contaminants are landing in it and can grow. Ketchup is high is sugar & vinegar & salt so is self preserving, also the squeezy bottles let far less contaminants float in. I have never seen mouldy ketchup.

    For this reason I prechill some jars before opening if I plan on storing in the fridge later, so if mould spores do land in it then they do not really get a chance to grow at all, as it is too cold to begin with.

    Some stuff in the fridges in supermarkets are a con. In the US lots of the organic milk is UHT and stored in the fridge to give the impression it is not UHT. I imagine many of the soups you see in fridges in supermarkets here are actually sterile, they could also give knowingly short BB dates on them to make them appear fresher. Many people make comments if food has a BB date several years away "oh must be loaded with preservatives and overly processed" when in fact it might just be sterilized.

    Malari wrote: »
    The ketchup itself will tell you it has to be stored in the fridge after opening :pac:
    A lot of people who store ketchup and other stuff in presses will meticiulously read the instructions on "new" products that they have not grown up with -and I have shocked a couple when I showed them the ketchup bottle, even better if you first get them to bang on about the importance of following the instructions/guide on the label and how they do not want to be on the jacks for a week -only to see they have miraculously made it through 40 odd years of eating room temp ketchup.

    My ketchup is in the press, but cold ketchup is often a nice contrast with roasting hot chips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    I put everything open into the fridge. Olives, ketchup, pickles etc. It's not for nothing I have a "jar shelf" in my fridge. :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I'm popping this in here as I know it'd be better suited to nutrition & diet, but I trust all of your cooking skills more ;). Does/Has anyone follow[ed] a low FODMAP diet? My GP has recommended that I do one for a few weeks to try and figure out what triggers some digestive problems for me, but it involves basically eliminating all of my favourite things! Some food recipes/website would be appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭nompere




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Just on the subject of the BBC and the earlier about food safety. I was watching the Saturday Kitchen last Saturday and the host did something you don't often see on cooking shows on TV. He made a very pointed effort to make sure the guest chef washed his hands after he had just handled raw meat that he had put on a grill pan. He went straight from the raw meat to preparing a salad. Or at least he tried to before he was told off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    He made a very pointed effort to make sure the guest chef washed his hands after he had just handled raw meat that he had put on a grill pan.
    It really disgusts me, it has come up several times before on this forum. Some dismissing or giving them the benefit of the doubt sometimes saying "oh it's edited, maybe they did clean up", it is a vital part of the cooking instruction! the programs are educational, they should be mentioning it all the time. And the live programs are not edited, you can see them cross contaminating without the camera moving off them. Also many give this pathetic and totally inadequate token hand wash, make a point of saying "oh, must wash my hands of course" then contaminate a towel with their "splashed hands" for others to continue cross contaminating -who may well have adequately washed their hands. These contaminated splashed hands might well be even worse as they have now nicely moistened the towel.

    The poor pepper grinder on that program should be sent into a college biology lab, must be teeming with stuff!

    Saturday kitchen got in trouble before.
    http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/11/people-are-not-impressed-with-a-saturday-kitchen-chef-serving-up-raw-chicken-6441678/

    and I found a general study done
    http://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/full/10.1108/BFJ-12-2013-0367
    Food safety practices in European TV cooking shows
    Although cooking programmes and food demonstrations are perceived as entertainment sources, they are partly educational, so they are excellent vehicles for delivering food safety information to young people (Diehl et al., 2010) and other groups. Indeed, television was cited as one of three main sources of food safety information by Irish teenagers (Tobin et al., 2005).

    Warburton (2001) noted that, while cookery programmes were becoming increasingly popular in the UK, it was perceived that they devoted little or no attention to health and safety aspects of food preparation and storage. Subsequently, research carried out at the University of Guelph, Canada (Mathiasen et al., 2004), revealed that chefs on popular television cooking programmes make food safety errors 13 times as often as they handle food correctly. The study showed that an average of seven food-handling mistakes was made during a typical 30-minute show. About 30 per cent of the shows analysed were produced in Canada, while the remainder were from the USA and the UK. The most frequent error was poor hand washing, which occurred in 75 per cent of the segments from 2002 and 96 per cent of those from 2003. Another prevalent mistake was not separating raw from cooked foods, which was noticed in 72 per cent of the shows in 2002 and 86 per cent of those in 2003.
    4.3 Cross-contamination
    Cross-contamination occurrences are difficult to determine, however many experts agree that cross-contamination plays an important role and is responsible for the sporadic outbreaks associated with home cooking (Humphrey, 2001; Clayton and Griffith, 2003). If only this argument is to be considered, it would be highly advisable for all TV cooking shows to display correct food handling practices that will induce the viewer to use correct cooking practices. Practices associated with the risk of cross-contamination from raw products to ready-to-eat products were observed in several shows. Important vehicles for transfer of pathogens are hands and equipment with direct food contact with such as knives, spoons and chopping boards. The practice of washing hands after handling raw meat or fish was infrequently observed (16 per cent of the evaluated TV shows) and on occasion the host chef had to prompt the guest chef to carry this out. In other shows (e.g. Top Chef Romania, Hellstroms Masterchef, Saturday Kitchen Live) chefs seemed to prefer to wipe their hands on a dry cloth, such as a tea towel or an apron (sometimes blood-stained), between any operation, and this was inevitably the same cloth used throughout the cooking operation, with obvious cross-contamination risks. It is not appropriate to use the same cloth to clean hands and to clean cutting boards and plates, even if it is wet, especially after handling raw meat.

    You will also see them berating people for certain things which are nasty, but actually not that risky or as relatively risky as other things -e.g. scolding a chef for tasting with a spoon and dipping it back in, so it is horrible but it is continued to be cooked for a good while so would kill off stuff. I think sometimes they are afraid to mention it, often the "celeb chefs" are more famous, older and/or more experienced and they do not want to show them up live on air.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,396 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    I was gifted 3 bottles of poor red wine earlier. Herself will drink one. What can I cook with the other 2? I don't drink red by the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    beertons wrote: »
    I was gifted 3 bottles of poor red wine earlier. Herself will drink one. What can I cook with the other 2? I don't drink red by the way.

    Coq au vin or beef bourginon?

    Although I'd usually go with the rule that if I won't drink it, I won't cook with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Now it's getting chillier in the evenings, turn it into mulled wine by adding spices and honey to sweeten. Invite some friends over. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Now it's getting chillier in the evenings, turn it into mulled wine by adding spices and honey to sweeten. Invite some friends over. :)

    Dunnes do mulled wine sachets for less than a few euro. I always add honey as well :) Of course you can make your own spices with bags of muslin but just saying about the easy option available. I add clementines as well.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,396 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Avada wrote: »
    Coq au vin or beef bourginon?

    Although I'd usually go with the rule that if I won't drink it, I won't cook with it.

    I haven't drank red wine since I went to get my teeth cleaned before my wedding. Don't mind cooking with it once in a blue moon though(2-3 years).

    Beef bourgon it is so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    In a pub last week I had "Sizzling Chicken" which was a mix of chicken, carrots, peppers and onions in a garlicky dark brown sauce, on one of those stone plates and when it was brought down to the table it sizzled loudly as the name suggests.

    I'd seen this dish before but it was my first time trying it.
    Now I'm wondering if I can recreate it at home?

    How would I make it sizzle like that?
    I tried Googling "sizzling" recipes but they're just throwing up Chinese dishes that are nothing like the one I'm after.
    Any ideas guys?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    AFAIK the sizzling comes from them getting the stone plate it's served on ridiculously hot, then putting the food that's been cooked normally on it. It's sizzling for the same reason a steak sizzles when you put it in a hot pan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    As kylith said, but adding some liquid such as lime juice immediately before serving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Conversation at deli counter yesterday...
    Girl: Are the wraps gluten-free?
    Server: Let me check.
    * takes time to check with manager *
    Server: No, I'm afraid not.
    Girl: Ok, I'll have a baguette.
    Server: They're not gluten-free.
    Girls: That's ok. But are they dairy-free?
    Server: Let me check.
    * takes time to check with manager again while queue gets longer *
    Server: Yes, they are dairy-free.
    Girl: Ok, I'll have ham, cheese & lettuce. And can you put some butter on that?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    ^:pac:

    It's shocking how so many people are taken in by fad diet/fitness regimes nowadays. When you see meat in a butcher's being advertised as "high protein" or "gluten free" you know there's something seriously wrong :rolleyes:


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