High Noon with George Hook.

foxtrot101 · 11-09-2017 04:22PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

It was tongue in cheek. Christ almighty...

No, it wasn't. The "I don't like muslims" was an aside to a text message. That happened too and evidence would be just as easy to find as the above.

Army_of_One · 11-09-2017 04:22PM

was only a matter of time before his big gob got him in trouble.

jooksavage · 11-09-2017 04:36PM

Del.Monte wrote: »

No. He may have gone about it badly while making some valid points, but that doesn't matter to the PC 'shout you down' brigade.

Well you're at odds with Hook so because according to his unequivocal apology, he was wrong.

Either that or you think he's a massive charlatan who will renounce deeply held convictions to hold on to a job he said he would retire from 12 months ago.

DickSwiveller · 11-09-2017 04:47PM

jooksavage wrote: »

Well you're at odds with Hook so because according to his unequivocal apology, he was wrong.

Either that or you think he's a massive charlatan who will renounce deeply held convictions to hold on to a job he said he would retire from 12 months ago.

You would have lost his job if he didn't apologize. Get some cop on.

jooksavage · 11-09-2017 04:49PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

You would have lost his job if he didn't apologize. Get some cop on.

So you don't think his apology was genuine then?

DickSwiveller · 11-09-2017 04:51PM

jooksavage wrote: »

So you don't think his apology was genuine then?

No. I was uncomfortable listening to it.

jooksavage · 11-09-2017 04:59PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

No. I was uncomfortable listening to it.

I actually think it was a heartfelt mea culpa. And it's really weird to find myself being a hell of a lot more generous to George than his so-called fans here who are passing off his apology as an insincere act made under duress.

By the way, Hook doesn't take kindly to when his sincerity is questioned. Ask Johnny Sexton.

tommythecat · 11-09-2017 05:02PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

No. I was uncomfortable listening to it.

What's the point of him then if he doesn't have the courage to stand over his beliefs and statements?

jooksavage · 11-09-2017 05:22PM

tommythecat wrote: »

What's the point of him then if he doesn't have the courage to stand over his beliefs and statements?

Again I think Hook's apology was genuine and should be accepted. Hook himself has previously said that he wouldn't be doing High Noon if he didn't believe in the stuff he says.

So now some folks are caught in a bind : do you accept his apology and concede, as he did, that he misspoke or do you insist he doesn't mean a word of his apology and is an insincere hypocrite but at least he lives another day to put the boot into feminists or muslims or the liberal agenda.

reg114 · 11-09-2017 05:23PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

He should have told to cheer up or get the f**k out of his studio. The amount of help that he has given to her in her media career, and she's acting all snotty with him today. If I was the presenter, her feet wouldn't have hit the ground.

Explain what you mean by saying "her feet wouldn't have hit the ground". Thats a loathsome and unacceptable comment whats worrying is you have other idiots thanking you for it. Detestable.

retro:electro · 11-09-2017 05:24PM

I would rather he came out today and apologised for causing offence- but instead of retracting his comments completely, I wish he clarified his points and advanced on what he actually meant. He has a point in there somewhere- I know that, he knows that and a lot of people know that. I just wish he didn't buckle under mob pressure and maybe apologised for the awkward way he expressed himself and maybe said it's an issue to explore another day.

DickSwiveller · 11-09-2017 05:25PM

reg114 wrote: »

Explain what you mean by saying "her feet wouldn't have hit the ground". Thats a loathsome and unacceptable comment whats worrying is you have other idiots thanking you for it. Detestable.

Uh Oh they're offended again. Be careful PetertheNinth. You'll have to apologize now.

Sleeper12 · 11-09-2017 05:29PM

Lady Chatterton wrote:

I loved the Right Hook and I wish George had retired on a high last year. High Noon hasn't been great, it hasn't even been good but I'd be saddened if his career ended on such a sour note, I feel he deserves better.

Totally agree. He annoys the hell out of me at times but would hate to have seen him retire in disgrace. I thought he gave a good full apology today. We all make mistakes. Time to forgive and forget on this issue

Lady Chatterton wrote:

A number of posters have remarked on George's handling of the HPV vaccine, what's the story there? I would really like to know more about this. Thanks LC.

His very first "High Noon" show he did a hatchet job on the vaccine. He or his show is part of the reason that the vaccine uptake rate has dropped.

The show only covered the against side. Parents of girls with so called reaction to the vaccine. These side effects are tiredness, fatigue and loss of energy. The problem is that girls of 12 to 15 can suffer from this for no apparent reason. This is a known condition long before any vaccine. There is no increase in this condition since the vaccine came out. This is worldwide and not just Ireland. The world health organisation says that the vaccine is perfectly safe. In other words these girls would have gotten these symptoms with or without the vaccine.

The show did a hatchet job on the vaccine. IMO the damage done to the vaccine uptake is as bad if not worse than his comments last Friday. Girls lives are now put at risk.

In fairness the show has producers and they are more to blame than Hook himself as far as the vaccine is concerned

PeterTheNinth · 11-09-2017 05:32PM

reg114 wrote: »

Explain what you mean by saying "her feet wouldn't have hit the ground". Thats a loathsome and unacceptable comment whats worrying is you have other idiots thanking you for it. Detestable.

Yeah, I think you need to organise a petition. Don't forget to get your petition endorsed by Chris Donoghue and retweeted by Una Mulally.

reg114 · 11-09-2017 05:33PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Uh Oh they're offended again. Be careful PetertheNinth. You'll have to apologize now.

No, appalled at the brazen women hating attitude parading itself as something less extreme and instead shifting the focus onto perceived snowflakes. The ignorance is staggering as is the levity with which some posters treat other posters reaction to the crime of rape.

jooksavage · 11-09-2017 05:33PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Totally agree. He annoys the hell out of me at times but would hate to have seen him retire in disgrace. I thought he gave a good full apology today. We all make mistakes. Time to forgive and forget on this issue

His very first "High Noon" show he did a hatchet job on the vaccine. He or his show is part of the reason that the vaccine uptake rate has dropped.

The show only covered the against side. Parents of girls with so called reaction to the vaccine. These side effects are tiredness, fatigue and loss of energy. The problem is that girls of 12 to 15 can suffer from this for no apparent reason. This is a known condition long before any vaccine. There is no increase in this condition since the vaccine came out. This is worldwide and not just Ireland. The world health organisation says that the vaccine is perfectly safe. In other words these girls would have gotten these symptoms with or without the vaccine.

The show did a hatchet job on the vaccine. IMO the damage done to the vaccine uptake is as bad if not worse than his comments last Friday. Girls lives are now put at risk.

In fairness the show has producers and they are more to blame than Hook himself as far as the vaccine is concerned

Couldn't agree more. The vaccine thing has a much bigger potential to cause harm. Ciara Kelly was doing trojan work on Twitter swatting away anti-vax nonsense - it's a pity she only found her voice against Hook today and didn't challenge him as forcefully on vaccines.

11-09-2017 05:34PM

Snowflake Cooper did bit of a hatchet job on Hook - I lolled at him claiming only men were defending him

reg114 · 11-09-2017 05:36PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Yeah, I think you need to organise a petition. Don't forget to get your petition endorsed by Chris Donoghue and retweeted by Una Mulally.

Threatened by people who find rape unconscionable? You didn't explain what you meant when inferring Ciara Kellys feet wouldn't hit the floor had you been the presenter?

PeterTheNinth · 11-09-2017 05:41PM

anna080 wrote: »

I would rather he came out today and apologised for causing offence- but instead of retracting his comments completely, I wish he clarified his points and advanced on what he actually meant.

I agree. I think the whole ridiculous thing about this episode is that it could have served as a warning to people not to go out and get hammered and go home with somebody you have only just met. It IS risky behaviour, whether you are a man or a woman. But the takeaway now is that I have the right to drink as much as I want, and go home with whoever I want, and not have any expectation that my personal safety will be endangered in any way.

Conservative · 11-09-2017 05:49PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

DickSwiveller wrote: »

You saw it ont witter; now there's a shock. I can't find anything online. Please reproduce the exact quotes, and when they were uttered.

I did. "I'm an islamophobe" direct quote. If you don't believe, I couldn't give a toss, because I heard both statements myself.

Edit..there you go http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/High_Noon/Highlights_from_High_Noon_/187856/The_Enemy_Within_A_Tale_of_Muslim_Britain

He opened by saying he was an Islamophobe (hardly alone there). At no point in that interview did he say he doesn't like Muslims.

Whatever many here think of him, George is smart enough to know there is a big difference between what he said and what you claimed he said about Muslim people.

If you listen to that interview it was actually one of his better ones I can recall.

He was extremely courteous and allowed BW speak a hell of a lot more than he usually affords his guests.

As an aside, I am amazed NT have audio archives going back that long - seems like it was at least 6 months ago?

nicedryturf · 11-09-2017 05:54PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

I agree. I think the whole ridiculous thing about this episode is that it could have served as a warning to people not to go out and get hammered and go home with somebody you have only just met. It IS risky behaviour, whether you are a man or a woman. But the takeaway now is that I have the right to drink as much as I want, and go home with whoever I want, and not have any expectation that my personal safety will be endangered in any way.

I know. I know. But try explaining that to Hook - he apparently doesn't agree with you anymore.

foxtrot101 · 11-09-2017 06:02PM

Conservative wrote: »

He opened by saying he was an Islamophobe (hardly alone there). At no point in that interview did he say he doesn't like Muslims.

Whatever many here think of him, George is smart enough to know there is a big difference between what he said and what you claimed he said about Muslim people.

If you listen to that interview it was actually one of his better ones I can recall.

He was extremely courteous and allowed BW speak a hell of a lot more than he usually affords his guests

That's properly because the "I don't like muslin" line was made on another occasion. I thought I made that clear, obviously not. Saying I'm an Islamophobe amounts to the same thing anyway.

Islamophobia: Dislike of or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.

nicedryturf · 11-09-2017 06:12PM

nicedryturf wrote: »

I know. I know. But try explaining that to Hook - he apparently doesn't agree with you anymore.

based on the thanks this comment got i don't think i did a good job getting my point across: your god Hook doesn't agree with you - you can stop defending a statement that he hasn't got the guts to defend himself.

nicedryturf · 11-09-2017 06:38PM

jooksavage wrote: »

Again I think Hook's apology was genuine and should be accepted. Hook himself has previously said that he wouldn't be doing High Noon if he didn't believe in the stuff he says.

So now some folks are caught in a bind : do you accept his apology and concede, as he did, that he misspoke or do you insist he doesn't mean a word of his apology and is an insincere hypocrite but at least he lives another day to put the boot into feminists or muslims or the liberal agenda.

I agree with his superfans: he only apologised so he could keep his job. Which means... he's an insincere hypocrite i spose.

Conservative · 11-09-2017 07:02PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Conservative wrote: »

He opened by saying he was an Islamophobe (hardly alone there). At no point in that interview did he say he doesn't like Muslims.

Whatever many here think of him, George is smart enough to know there is a big difference between what he said and what you claimed he said about Muslim people.

If you listen to that interview it was actually one of his better ones I can recall.

He was extremely courteous and allowed BW speak a hell of a lot more than he usually affords his guests

That's properly because the "I don't like muslin" line was made on another occasion. I thought I made that clear, obviously not. Saying I'm an Islamophobe amounts to the same thing anyway.

Islamophobia: Dislike of or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.

Apologies if I misunderstood your point. Can you show me where he said "I don't like Muslims" as you claimed?

I dislike Catholicism. Does that make me hate my own mother now or what?

Common sense would differentiate a religion from its followers and just because some Muslims and toffee nosed lefties decided to define it otherwise doesn't make it correct.

Sleeper12 · 11-09-2017 07:07PM

Conservative wrote:

Apologies if I misunderstood your point. Can you show me where he said "I don't like Muslims" as you claimed?

I can't be sure if he said those words but he certainly gives that impression.
I did here him say ban Islam and you'll be no terrorism.

limnam · 11-09-2017 07:28PM

Always hated that kelly thing.

She knows George well enough to know what he was referring to and she stood all over him.

Disgusting little creature

foxtrot101 · 11-09-2017 07:34PM

Conservative wrote: »

Apologies if I misunderstood your point. Can you show me where he said "I don't like Muslims" as you claimed?

I dislike Catholicism. Does that make me hate my own mother now or what?

Common sense would differentiate a religion from its followers and just because some Muslims and toffee nosed lefties decided to define it otherwise doesn't make it correct.

claimed? No, I'm not claiming anything. He did say it. There will be a reaction to it on his twitter timeline @ghook. If you want to find it you can, it's up to you.

That's the Oxfords English Dictionary defintion of Islamophobia, you want to dismiss them as toffee nosed lefties...that's up to you too.

hullaballoo · 11-09-2017 07:35PM

limnam wrote: »

Always hated that kelly thing.

She knows George well enough to know what he was referring to and she stood all over him.

Disgusting little creature

Moderator: Just when I was thinking this thread had somehow resolved itself into a mature discussion without any need for mods to interfere...

That's a red card infraction. The next step is a forum ban under this forum's escalation policy.

Staplor · 11-09-2017 07:41PM

What exactly do people want here? George is paid by a private company, my taxes do not pay for his wages. He made a mistake and apologised. I make mistakes in work and apologise, I don't have thousands of people listening to my work though.

George Hook is a man who has huge life experience, and someone I enjoy listening to, that life experience being key. He has opinions and he shares them. He made very poor comments, he apologised. I accept that. I'll continue listening to him, if you don't want to then don't. Simple really.

High Noon with George Hook.

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