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Isn't multiculturalism great...

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wailin wrote: »
    Over 50 likes eh? So that's what it all comes down to? Social approval on the internet. You are a sad sad individual op!

    You're an angry angry individual. Relax, count to ten, no point getting so wound up on an anonymous forum. And sure, maybe a few other angry people will like your take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Most pathetic thread I've seen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭Benjamin Buttons


    Who in their right mind has a great day spending quality time with their daughter on a Saturday say, it was because of multiculturalism?

    Even if you doubt the varacity or literal truth of Conor's lovely story and the wonderful characters therein, at least try and see it as a joyous little feelgood parable of our times. A positive snapshot if you will of the multi-ethnic Ireland of 2017. I'm temped to exclaim: 'Praise the Lord', but that would be pushing it, so instead we'll raise a glass to Conor74 for sharing his story with us, even though some of you, unlike myself and a few brave others, refuse to glow with optimism's flame at the sheer delight expressed in Conor's opening post, but would prefer to scowl, foam at the mouth, or pour forth noxious bile rather than give a big thumbs-up for Conor's 'one love' vision.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    50 likes, sure aren't you just great.

    Great, unmoved, sang froid...it's all better than your "well in Slovakia, they cannot POSSIBLY allow later terminations in pregnancy than Ireland" theory.

    Do you think you might be wrong? Will we look it up together? Ah let's...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Even if you doubt the varacity or literal truth of Conor's lovely story and the wonderful characters therein, at least try and see it as a joyous little feelgood parable of our times. A positive snapshot if you will of the multi-ethnic Ireland of 2017. I'm temped to exclaim: 'Praise the Lord', but that would be pushing it, so instead we'll raise a glass to Conor74 for sharing his story with us, even though some of you, unlike myself and a few brave others, refuse to glow with optimism's flame at the sheer delight expressed in Conor's opening post, but would prefer to scowl, foam at the mouth, or pour forth noxious bile rather than give a big thumbs-up for Conor's 'one love' vision.



    Ha ha, love it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Great, unmoved, sang froid...it's all better than your "well in Slovakia, they cannot POSSIBLY allow later terminations in pregnancy than Ireland" theory.

    Do you think you might be wrong? Will we look it up together? Ah let's...

    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Ha ha! My first post got over 50 likes from people who recognise it for what it was. A very simple "had a good day with people from other countries".


    It was a harmless enough thread. People took what they wanted from it. It'll do your daughter the world of good to see normal life and you reacting to foreign nationals the same way you would with Irish people.
    Children aren't born with hate and distrust for others. They learn it from us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Children aren't born with hate and distrust for others. They learn it from us.

    Racism and xenophobia are evolutionary selections that reduce the risk of diseases spreading between different populations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Oh the old "me and the entire internet" argument!

    Ha ha! My first post got over 50 likes from people who recognise it for what it was. A very simple "had a good day with people from other countries".

    How many have supported your "this is completely made up, it's utterly impossible" theory?

    Come come now Conor74,there was nothing at all "simple" about your OP.

    Even your revelation that "likes" on a discussion board equates with recognition of anything,will doubtless be challenged.

    I feel that you're a bit peeved at the reality that many other White Catholic Irish,and God knows,maybe even the occasional South Kerry person are not prepared to share your burden in relation to multiwhateveritistodayism.:)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    It was a harmless enough thread. People took what they wanted from it. It'll do your daughter the world of good to see normal life and you reacting to foreign nationals the same way you would with Irish people.
    Children aren't born with hate and distrust for others. They learn it from us.

    It wasnt,it was designed to give Conor74 a smug sense of self satisfaction.

    If it was so harmless a new thread didnt need to be started.

    Could have easily posted in the "Trivial things that make you happy" thread.

    But of course Conor74 wouldnt have got to feel smug and superior posting in the happiness thread because he wouldnt have got his 50 thanks and the reaction he purposely tried to garner creating his own "isnt multiculturalism great" thread


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    It wasnt,it was designed to give Conor74 a smug sense of self satisfaction.

    If it was so harmless a new thread didnt need to be started.

    Could have easily posted in the "Trivial things that make you happy" thread.

    But of course Conor74 wouldnt have got to feel smug and superior posting in the happiness thread because he wouldnt have got his 50 thanks and the reaction he purposely tried to garner creating his own "isnt multiculturalism great" thread

    the same could be said for the anti immigration threads tbf...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    snowflaker wrote: »
    the same could be said for the anti immigration threads tbf...

    Too fcuking right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Billy86 wrote: »
    ................................

    What's you point caller?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    GerryDerpy wrote:
    Racism and xenophobia are evolutionary selections that reduce the risk of diseases spreading between different populations.

    So you are saying that ignorance & stupidly are evolutionary selections?
    The hillbillies in the white sheets & burning the cross & saving human kind
    gitzy16v wrote:
    It wasnt,it was designed to give Conor74 a smug sense of self satisfaction.

    I can live with that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    So you are saying that ignorance & stupidly are evolutionary selections?
    The hillbillies in the white sheets & burning the cross & saving human kind


    I can live with that

    Deflect, deflect, deflect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    So you are saying that ignorance & stupidly are evolutionary selections?
    The hillbillies in the white sheets & burning the cross & saving human kind


    I can live with that

    How is it ignorant or stupid if it positively selects for survival? Evolution is not intelligent. The mutations are random. The characteristics that benefit survival are naturally selected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    JaCrispy wrote: »
    I wonder if many parents of the young victims of the Ariana Grande bombing or Brussels airport attack think similar thoughts?

    That hotel has struggled to recover since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    Does it matter what nationality I am

    It should only matter if what I said is true or not

    I didn't just blurt it out
    It's based on comparison and contrast between us and our peers all across the world


    I could've just said

    "We are a nation of Ásshóles"

    That might have been more succinct
    Spider Web wrote: »
    No Irish person ever has been or is pleasant.

    Come on, think stuff through before blurting.

    What nationality are you?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    That hotel has struggled to recover since.

    So far my favourite reactions are (i) I hope your head is crushed under a rock. Dunno who that was, but it was dramatic and (ii) you've made it all up, Slovakia cannot possibly have more liberal abortion laws than us...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    So far my favourite reactions are (i) I hope your head is crushed under a rock. Dunno who that was, but it was dramatic and (ii) you've made it all up, Slovakia cannot possibly have more liberal abortion laws than us...

    Er, ok. Did you mean to quote me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    So far my favourite reactions are (i) I hope your head is crushed under a rock. Dunno who that was, but it was dramatic and (ii) you've made it all up, Slovakia cannot possibly have more liberal abortion laws than us...


    Don't be putting words in my mouth, I simply said you made this all up. Nothing about Slovakia abortion law.

    Looking for more likes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭Spider Web


    Mission accomplished Conor.
    99nsr125 wrote: »
    Does it matter what nationality I am

    It should only matter if what I said is true or not

    I didn't just blurt it out
    It's based on comparison and contrast between us and our peers all across the world


    I could've just said

    "We are a nation of Ásshóles"

    That might have been more succinct
    :confused:

    Forget the self loathing and forelock-tugging (and possible projection - i.e. maybe you are an asshole but you're not everyone else; or maybe you're one of those "I'm the exception but everyone else is sh1t" folks) and actually just think it through - how are "we" a nation of assholes? There are assholes here obviously, like there are absolutely anywhere, but saying somewhere is "a nation of" something implies there is an epidemic of it. How so? "It's based on comparison and contrast between us and our peers all across the world" - would you elaborate?
    You did say "Irish people are not pleasant. Never have been" - nothing further to qualify it. A pretty inaccurate thing to say about an entire people now really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The Slovakian friends had a pregnancy a few years ago and they were told in CUH that the child would have huge problems, the anomaly scan was not good. So they went back to Slovakia to terminate the pregnancy. As a matter of curiosity, do you think they should have been forced to have the child because it's part of our social values?

    I'd rather wait until after the referendum before I agree that it's "part of our social values", I believe that Ireland has advanced and that our laws are simply slow to catch up. Regardless, your question is a little odd - I have no issue with people going to other jurisdictions if they don't like Irish laws or social customs, and I'd have no problem with an ultraconservative muslim family going to Saudi Arabia if they want to raise their daughter without any personal freedom. I just don't think they should be allowed to do it in this country. If you're in Ireland and you raise your daughter to believe that she has no agency, you are in my view committing child abuse, plain and simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    It's not discriminatory
    it's the truth
    You do
    realise that's a very discriminatory remark?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 386 ✭✭Spider Web


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    It's not discriminatory
    it's the truth
    Yes it is discriminatory. No it isn't the truth. Every single Irish person is not an asshole - some are, like anywhere.
    I know this country does contain a lot of self loathing forelock tuggers, but this takes the biscuit.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    99nsr125 wrote: »
    It's not discriminatory
    it's the truth

    Of course it's discriminatory.

    Just as it would be discriminatory if I said it about any other Nationality/Race/Religious group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,526 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I'd rather wait until after the referendum before I agree that it's "part of our social values", I believe that Ireland has advanced and that our laws are simply slow to catch up. Regardless, your question is a little odd - I have no issue with people going to other jurisdictions if they don't like Irish laws or social customs, and I'd have no problem with an ultraconservative muslim family going to Saudi Arabia if they want to raise their daughter without any personal freedom. I just don't think they should be allowed to do it in this country. If you're in Ireland and you raise your daughter to believe that she has no agency, you are in my view committing child abuse, plain and simple.


    You don't appear to appreciate Irish laws yourself there HP, they're too slow to catch up to your views, but they're too liberal for your views in other areas.

    Yet you object to people who do not share your views even though they are law abiding citizens of our country?

    Sounds like a severe case of double standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Deflect, deflect, deflect.


    No deflection.
    Racism can't be evilution or even natural selection. It's not natural instinct to be racist.

    Racism is a learned behaviour.

    A child will be mean to another child. He will call him blacky if he's black and fatty if he's fat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭marcus001


    You don't appear to appreciate Irish laws yourself there HP, they're too slow to catch up to your views, but they're too liberal for your views in other areas.

    Yet you object to people who do not share your views even though they are law abiding citizens of our country?

    Sounds like a severe case of double standards.

    There are some things which aren't legally enforceable but are happily part of our culture, like treating your daughter as equal to your son.

    Just because someone follows the law does not mean they are a good person or an asset to society.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,526 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    marcus001 wrote: »
    There are some things which aren't legally enforceable but are happily part of our culture, like treating your daughter as equal to your son.

    Just because someone follows the law does not mean they are a good person or an asset to society.


    That's a matter of individual opinion though. HP's argument consists of anything which doesn't conform to his standards isn't welcome in our country, yet while he laments authoritarianism, he wants to substitute it with authoritarianism which is consistent with his values!


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