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Destiny 2.0 (PC)

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  • #52
    Glebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,683 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Just played through the intro there and a bit of PVP. Not sure if its for me.....:(


  • #53
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Given this numerous tries now PVP and PVE are both dull. I don't think this beta has done them any favours.


  • #54
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    Given this numerous tries now PVP and PVE are both dull. I don't think this beta has done them any favours.

    I have to agree, looked great pve played well but i just wonder about content, overall it didnt inspire a preorder.


  • #55
    pxdf9i5cmoavkz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Hey Guys

    A bit saddening to see the comments about Destiny 2 :( Perhaps I can address some concerns.

    Background: I played Destiny 1 on PS4, a lot. But once a PCMR, PCMR for life amirite? :cool:

    PvP:
    1. To compare it to overwatch is foolish imo. These are two completely different games.
    2. PvP does become easier the more you play it.
    3. Trust me on this please. It does become easier the more you play.
    4. The Melee skill is not as overpowered as you may think. It seems that way but that is because your opponent is fully charged in the melee skill. Uncharged you will not die in a single hit unless you're low life.
    5. PvP is decent because most arenas have level advantage disabled. Therefore it is 95% about skill, 4% about class build and 1% about gear loadout.

    PvE:
    1. The PvE you saw during the Open Beta is a drop in the ocean to what the full game will have.
    2. You will have free roam. When you go to an area you're able to move around a massive world.
    3. You do however need to go into the "Director" to move to another world. This is not nearly as painful as you may think. Tbh it works fantastically when you're building a fire team.
    4. This is ultimately an MMO. An MMO with an amazing story and excellent gun play.

    Interface:
    1. The interface does seem to favour the console more. Yet if you just give it a chance you'll see that it works well.
    2. Because this was an Open Beta, you were not privy to all the loot that drops from the game. Thus you were unable to see how the interface works when you get new gear.
    3. Hovering over a item and holding Q (I think) would compare the two items.
    4. How do you know if you have a new item? Simple, open the inventory and look for flashing squares in your gear slots.

    That is all I can think of at the moment.

    The Open Beta on PC did make a mistake in that it catered for veteran players and not new comers.

    Do not be dissuaded because you had a less than stellar experience in your first play through. I was confused af when I played it at first but after a few hours everything became intuitive.


  • #56
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Sounds great but what about loot and progression?
    The division for example has great gunplay,visuals,setting etc but just not enough content,loot or meaningful progression.
    I would hope Destiny 2 would have more in this department?


  • #57
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    amazing story??? not if destiny 1 is anything to go by. Bought it on release and i had no idea as to what race i was, who i was fighting why i was fighting, or what the hell was going on other than pew pew loot loot. it had some very good gameplay stuff but story was not one of its strong points by a long shot


  • #58
    pxdf9i5cmoavkz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Dcully wrote: »
    Sounds great but what about loot and progression?
    The division for example has great gunplay,visuals,setting etc but just not enough content,loot or meaningful progression.
    I would hope Destiny 2 would have more in this department?

    Would have to disagree on The Divisions gun play. It was terrible. Visuals and setting was amazing though <3

    I cannot say for certain what Destiny 2 loot and progression will be like. They seem to have learned from Destiny 1 and have brought on two more studios to help with content which is promising.

    It's not going to be WoW in terms of content, loot and progression though.

    In a way I think that because PCMR will be getting the game much later, it will help players make a more informed decision. The honey moon period will be over by the 24th October.

    It's something to keep an eye on for sure.

    Will be great to join a Boards PC Destiny clan.
    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    amazing story??? not if destiny 1 is anything to go by. Bought it on release and i had no idea as to what race i was, who i was fighting why i was fighting, or what the hell was going on other than pew pew loot loot. it had some very good gameplay stuff but story was not one of its strong points by a long shot

    100% agreed. It only came into it's own after The Taking King expansion dropped. As I previously mentioned, they seemed to have learned and have done better this time around. I hope :)


  • #59
    jumbobreakfast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭jumbobreakfast


    Thanks for trying to help us understand the game but perhaps you can explain for example why is the PvE more than just a wave shooter and how does PvP compare to other popular PC FPS games?

    My impression of the Beta was that this is just a generic shooter like Halo. I know there is a place for games like Halo (I loved those games on the xbox back in the day) but PC games have moved on...if even just a little :)


    ...I still think I'm missing something, it can't just be hype, can it?


  • #60
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz




    micro transactions oh how i love thee :rolleyes:


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  • #61
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Destiny's story was a bit meh until The Taken King. I really enjoyed it after that.


  • #62
    pxdf9i5cmoavkz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    jumbobreakfast wrote: »
    Thanks for trying to help us understand the game but perhaps you can explain for example why is the PvE more than just a wave shooter?

    My impression of the Beta was that this is just a generic shooter like Halo. I know there is a place for games like Halo (I loved those games on the xbox back in the day) but PC games have moved on...if even just a little :)

    There are multiple aspects to the games PvE. There is an open world for you to explore.

    It has a myriad of modes and activities for you: Lost Sectors, Public Events, Flashpoints and Adventures just to get started.

    Strikes (Which is what the beta had) in a romantic sense serve as an intense, action packed wave shooter (it is what it is) with a story that you run in a match making group. 3 players. Unromantically, strikes are what you do to gear up for your first raid.
    You'll be hearing this a lot wrote:
    Strikes till you puke

    Each activity can be solved with the age-old tradition of applying a few bullets to the dilemma at hand.

    I haven't played Halo so I cannot comment on the similarities between the games. That being said they are from the same studios so I'm sure you will find things that are familiar.

    ----
    and how does PvP compare to other popular PC FPS games

    PvP is incredibly difficult to give a fair overview on.

    Overwatch's heavy reliance on team balance and not just being kill-centric is very unique, so it's hard to compare.

    PvP is still essentially a class based shooter with a slower TTK than COD. It has longer gunfights and throws in powers to boot.

    ---
    ...I still think I'm missing something, it can't just be hype, can it?

    What kind of a game is Destiny? A first-person shooter at its core, mixed with various other genres in an effort to stand out from the pack.


  • #63
    Grahamer666
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Grahamer666


    I had the first one on PS4 but none of my friends played it. I'm going to pick it up when it's out. Any interest in setting a clan up? I don't see one for PC on the Destiny forum.


  • #64
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Looks like it's another example of a game with terrible microtransactions. Buying stat improvements for guns, and shaders that are one time use? **** that.


  • #65
    gizmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    jumbobreakfast wrote: »
    Thanks for trying to help us understand the game but perhaps you can explain for example why is the PvE more than just a wave shooter and how does PvP compare to other popular PC FPS games?

    My impression of the Beta was that this is just a generic shooter like Halo. I know there is a place for games like Halo (I loved those games on the xbox back in the day) but PC games have moved on...if even just a little :)


    ...I still think I'm missing something, it can't just be hype, can it?
    Strikes feature design which I consider similar to the level before a boss or other meaningful confrontation in your typical shooter title. In the context of Destiny, they tend to serve as markers within or bookends to particular story arcs which is why they tend to feature something big once you reach the end. The other story-based PvE missions leading up to these feature your more typical shooter level design. The Strikes also generally come with higher difficulty levels and are more designed for team-based play which is why they're prime candidates for the grinding JasonS246 talks about above and why they probably feature in the beta releases.

    Having just finished Destiny myself recently, playing almost entirely solo, the Strikes served their above purpose once and in some later game phases twice when certain objectives were tweaked for the purposes of the story or particular quests but I never participated in the grind and still enjoyed my time with them.

    EDIT: With respect to the Halo comparison, I've played each iteration up to Halo 3 and have always enjoyed the single player campaign within. I never had any time for the multiplayer, however, as the floatiness of the character movement and longer TTK isn't something that appeals to me in PvP combat. When it came to Destiny I had nearly the exact same opinion of both modes although I'll happily point to the superior gun handling found in the later game making the experience more enjoyable in general.
    Kiith wrote: »
    Looks like it's another example of a game with terrible microtransactions. Buying stat improvements for guns, and shaders that are one time use? **** that.
    Judging by that video it looks like they're using the Pay-To-Skip attitude to early game upgrades with the Blue-Tier Engrams which, for anyone who spends even a modicum of time with the game, will discover are common as muck.

    What they do with the system in the future, however, remains potentially worrisome, at least for people with less impulse control than a curious hamster.


  • #66
    Falthyron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    This launches in 40 minutes on PC. Gonna stream some at: www.twitch.tv/theliber8or if anyone is interested. I might try and run it at 4K and see how I get on.


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  • #67
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I loved Destiny 1 on the ps4, despite all the criticism online I really enjoyed it. Really looking forward to trying this out on the pc and am ignoring on the negative comments on IGN etc.


  • #68
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Negative comments are also from well respected diehard destiny 1 fans, people who want the game to be great and have tonnes to do but sadly it doesnt.

    I was definitely buying it but no endgame has turned me right off, a game like this needs endgame.
    I cant help but compare that to warframe and its seemingly endless replayability and endgame.

    Pretty sure the campaign will be a great experience but a game like this needs real meat after you play the campaign, look at diablo everyone buys it for that endless grind and not for its campaign.


  • #69
    gizmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Dcully wrote: »
    Negative comments are also from well respected diehard destiny 1 fans, people who want the game to be great and have tonnes to do but sadly it doesnt.

    I was definitely buying it but no endgame has turned me right off, a game like this needs endgame.
    I cant help but compare that to warframe and its seemingly endless replayability and endgame.

    Pretty sure the campaign will be a great experience but a game like this needs real meat after you play the campaign, look at diablo everyone buys it for that endless grind and not for its campaign.
    I buy Diablo for the campaign so I'm well looking forward to this, **** yis! :pac:

    Note: After my experience with vanilla Destiny and its content lightness, I had no intention of touching this until later but I got a code with my new GPU so it'd be rude not to I suppose.


  • #70
    KilOit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Anyone know if this is free with GTX 1080 cards on Amazon.co.uk?
    i get the notice on Amazon.com but not co.uk


  • #71
    gizmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    KilOit wrote: »
    Anyone know if this is free with GTX 1080 cards on Amazon.co.uk?
    i get the notice on Amazon.com but not co.uk
    It was in the previous promotion, but when I got mine, Amazon UK were listed on the list of participating partners here. While they're not listed there now, they are listed on the US portal so I wouldn't be too sure. :(


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  • #72
    Falthyron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    Streaming again: www.twitch.tv/theliber8or

    Kinda enjoying this so far... Surprised it runs so well at 4K.


  • #73
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    really enjoying it so far, story is way better than Destiny 1 so far. Really liking the locations as well, graphics and atmosphere.

    Dissapointing to hear that the end game isn't really there, let's hope it gets fleshed out with the expansions later in the year.

    Destiny 1 didn't really have great end game either until The Taken King so maybe this will be the same.


  • #74
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Gonzo wrote: »
    really enjoying it so far, story is way better than Destiny 1 so far. Really liking the locations as well, graphics and atmosphere.

    Dissapointing to hear that the end game isn't really there, let's hope it gets fleshed out with the expansions later in the year.

    Destiny 1 didn't really have great end game either until The Taken King so maybe this will be the same.


    I really hope so, im thinking of holding off until something endgame happens.


  • #75
    KilOit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭KilOit


    gizmo wrote: »
    It was in the previous promotion, but when I got mine, Amazon UK were listed on the list of participating partners here. While they're not listed there now, they are listed on the US portal so I wouldn't be too sure. :(

    Just ordered it from US website, it's the same price even with the taxes and duty


  • #76
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I'll probably pick this up, maybe next week. Playing Shadow of War and Fifa at the moment, so not much time for it.


  • #77
    EoinHef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    Dcully wrote: »
    I really hope so, im thinking of holding off until something endgame happens.

    The only way the endgame is really going to change is through the expansions. The first one should be towards the end of this year.


  • #78
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Didnt they announce seasons amongst other things the other day?


  • #79
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Dcully wrote: »
    Didnt they announce seasons amongst other things the other day?

    the first expansion will hit before Christmas and be called The Curse of Osiris. It'll supposedly add a patrol zone on Mercury, a social space, and a storyline centered around Osiris.

    as for seasons https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/20/16512374/destiny-2-seasons-bungie-season-two-rewards-twitchcon


  • #80
    earthwormjack
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    Seems like hundreds of people are being banned from Destiny 2 for using third party software like Discord, Mumble, MSI Afterburner etc. Anything that contains an overlay really. Something to keep an eye on if some of you folks are running hardware monitoring tools and the like.


  • #81
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Guys, dont forget there is a Destiny forum on Boards ;)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1739


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  • #82
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Guys, dont forget there is a Destiny forum on Boards ;)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1739

    *snip*


  • #83
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Full of filthy consolers though.

    Eww.

    Well since the PC version only got released and the console versions are around a few years I would expect there to be a larger console userbase than anything right now. And PC gamers are always welcome to the forum.


  • #84
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Moved this to the Destiny forum. Will be easier to find PC Destiny players here, and we can use this to arrange raids.
    CruelCoin wrote: »
    *snip*
    Mod note - while this is probably tongue in cheek, the whole Master Race/Console peasants is against the charter, so let's not go there.


  • #85
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Some PC Crucible Play from MrFruit. Looks great, plays fast.



  • #86
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I..... just can't look at PC gameplay.

    It annoys me that PC has a better version of the game - that the gunplay is better.

    Graphics, Textures, FoV, FPS etc - grand, I expect them to be better. But the actual shooting mechanics and gun handling? That is fecking irritating.


  • #87
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    I console myself with the fact I'd be destroyed in PvP anyway. It does look good though.


  • #88
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    I'm consoled by the fact I have very little desire to play Destiny 2 regardless of how pretty it looks or how snappy the gunplay is regardless.

    Was watching Falthyron stream on Tuesday and it does look much better and plays nicer


  • #89
    [Deleted User]
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    The hype is getting to me. I had no intention of getting it since it has a lot of game design elements which I'm not a huge fan of ... but new shiny game!


  • #90
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I'm the same. Was going to wait, but now i kind of want to buy it today. Even with the issues, i enjoyed D1 for a while, so i'm sure i'll get at least a few weeks worth of this.

    Have loads of people really stopped playing already? Seems like there is a lot of negativity so far.


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  • #91
    SolvableKnave
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    Kiith wrote: »
    I'm the same. Was going to wait, but now i kind of want to buy it today. Even with the issues, i enjoyed D1 for a while, so i'm sure i'll get at least a few weeks worth of this.

    Have loads of people really stopped playing already? Seems like there is a lot of negativity so far.

    When people say it's more of an expansion than a sequel, they're kinda right. It's not a sequel to D1 as it was/is in Y3. There are some things in D1 that are missing in D2 in relation to QoL type things. There's no real incentive to grind out armour as it's all pretty much the same.

    The raid, compared to all D1 raids, is a let down if I'm being honest. Every week in D1, I'd WANT to run the raid on each character. The armour and weapons where unique, they had raid specific perks. D2's Leviathan raid has none of that. No Raid specific perks on anything, and the Prestige raid gear is the same as the NM gear, only with a different colour. I've run this raid twice, finished it once and have no WANT in me to run it.

    The whole token system, while it's a good idea in one sense, it's just poorly implemented. No longer can you buy gear from the respective vendors, you have to grind out tokens to get an Engram, and if your lucky, you'll get a piece of Vendor/Zone specific gear. Or you could get a generic weapon and shader. It seems like they've gone for a 'Everybody wins' feeling, straying too far into the casual, pick up play put down return in a week or 2 crowd, which has kinda bent the noses of those who pretty much kept D1 going for 3 Years. Those who put in in excess of 1,000 hours, or more in some really hardcore cases.

    I'll still log in to run the weekly milestones, bar NF and Raid, and, run some crucible, which I'm enjoying, for the most part.


  • #92
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    I..... just can't look at PC gameplay.

    It annoys me that PC has a better version of the game - that the gunplay is better.

    Graphics, Textures, FoV, FPS etc - grand, I expect them to be better. But the actual shooting mechanics and gun handling? That is fecking irritating.

    Hey, I herd you might be in a good mood, so I said I'd leave you this masterpiece from reddit

    MU1Pezz.jpg


  • #93
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Generic Dreadhead wrote: »
    Hey, I herd you might be in a good mood, so I said I'd leave you this masterpiece from reddit

    That really is a huge difference.


  • #94
    EoinHef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    As long as the PC port is decent its always going to be the case that a decent PC can run it better than consoles.

    For me the biggest improvement would be 60fps,wouldnt be surprised at all if that alone was mostly responsible for making the gunplay feel better. I still think it feels good on console though.

    But like others im not sure the game looking prettier would have any affect about how i feel about it. I just cant help feeling ive other games im currently playing that im getting more from so Destiny rarely gets turned on now.

    Maybe players who never played D1 will not have these hang ups though.

    Its a shorter,tighter and less grindy experience than D1 which should make me like it more but i dont weirdly!!


  • #95
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    I'm not sure how useable the 105 setting would be. I guess it's dependent on your monitor
    I know when I played BL2 (on console), after a certain point it became "fish eyed" (I think ~92 or so).
    Maybe that was just cause I was playing it on Console tbh, as I've said before I don't play FPS on console, so maybe one of the lads can let us know what they are finding optimum/useable on PC


  • #96
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    EoinHef wrote: »
    As long as the PC port is decent its always going to be the case that a decent PC can run it better than consoles.

    For me the biggest improvement would be 60fps,wouldnt be surprised at all if that alone was mostly responsible for making the gunplay feel better. I still think it feels good on console though.

    But like others im not sure the game looking prettier would have any affect about how i feel about it. I just cant help feeling ive other games im currently playing that im getting more from so Destiny rarely gets turned on now.

    Maybe players who never played D1 will not have these hang ups though.

    Its a shorter,tighter and less grindy experience than D1 which should make me like it more but i dont weirdly!!

    My 'issue' is that I believe crucible is quite different on PC due to movement seeming sharper/quicker and gun handling being different to console - guns are just better, apparently, which speeds up the game and makes it less of a campy team shot thing. That is what we get me playing more on console - PvP being better and being more of a draw to others to play too so that I can fire team up more.

    D2 PvP on console being very team focused, while I have a rapidly dwindling small group of players willing to play PvP with me has taken away a massive part of why I played so much D1.

    As I say, I don't mind Field of View or Textures being better - but it annoys me that the game fundementally plays different on PC, in ways that don't make sense or aren't just down to PC being different. I could understand if snipers were better due to KB&M, but guns simply don't have recoil on PC (a big stability issue on console) and I believe they don't have bloom either. That is a core reason the PC version feels better and smoother according to steamers I watch - and there is no reason why the console version is suffering these aim/shot mechanics if Bungie feel they aren't gameplay requirements on PC.

    I'm not saying the PC should be brought in-line - my problem is (based on why i hear and have seen) the PC version plays like the console version SHOULD, and it annoys me that the difference exists. If the PC version game mechanics are better then god damn implement them on the console version.

    Again, I'm not hating on the PC version or screaming for it to be nerfed.

    If console played like PC (regardless of FOV etc) I'd play more D2 - I played very little PvE in years 2 or 3 of D1, apart from bounties to try get a better Eyasluna etc.


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  • #97
    Mickeroo
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    Gun play and movement are sharper and quicker because of a combination of KB&M and the game running better. The only way this wouldn't have been the case was if they messed up the port.


  • #98
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    I..... just can't look at PC gameplay.

    It annoys me that PC has a better version of the game - that the gunplay is better.

    Graphics, Textures, FoV, FPS etc - grand, I expect them to be better. But the actual shooting mechanics and gun handling? That is fecking irritating.

    Thats pretty much every fps on PC compared to console, simply no comparison.
    Overwatch is a prime example, watching my son play it on console is so slow and hes excellent with a controller.
    Its like a totally different game on PC.

    Apart from controller being so much slower, pc can also play destiny @ 144fps @2560X1440 or even 4k @ 60+fps .

    Its the whole package that makes fps games so much better on PC, superior and faster controls,vastly more powerful hardware on pc complimenting the pure gaming monitors a lot of us are using, 144 hz has to be sen to be believed.


  • #99
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Gun play and movement are sharper and quicker because of a combination of KB&M and the game running better. The only way this wouldn't have been the case was if they messed up the port.

    Controller gameplay on PC is ALSO better because of game mechanic differences though.

    ALl the streams I watch saying:

    1. Controller support on PC is superb.
    2. Controller usage on PC is *possibly* overpowered relative to where it should be vs KB&M.
    3. Gun handling, movement, crispiness, aiming, hit registration, lack of bloom are all better on PC, with controller usage, over console.

    Loads of people feel D2 gunplay isn't doesn't feel as good as D1 - something doesn't feel right - I personally thought it was/is lowered aim assistance/bullet magnetism and I see streamers saying D2 on PC feels like D1 on console.

    I'm only going by what the streamers I watch say (DCP people, FalloutPlays, TruVanguard). Maybe they are wrong.

    are there people *HERE* who have played D1 and D2 on console, and D2 on PC using a controller? What are the opinions?


  • #100
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Dcully wrote: »
    Thats pretty much every fps on PC compared to console, simply no comparison.
    Overwatch is a prime example, watching my son play it on console is so slow and hes excellent with a controller.
    Its like a totally different game on PC.

    Apart from controller being so much slower, pc can also play destiny @ 144fps @2560X1440 or even 4k @ 60+fps .

    Its the whole package that makes fps games so much better on PC, superior and faster controls,vastly more powerful hardware on pc complimenting the pure gaming monitors a lot of us are using, 144 hz has to be sen to be believed.

    An Overwatch PC player on controller has a significantly different experience to a KB&M user - which (according to everyone I have seen comment on the issue) isn't the case on Destiny 2 PC. Bungie/VV haven't taken Aim Assist etc away from controllers like was done on PC Overwatch - so yes, it makes complete sense that they are very different games between PC and Console.

    Bloom being gone or limited in comparison to console version is nothing to do with frame rates or resolution. That is a gameplay mechanic they have changed on the PC version.

    If they removed those some mechanics from the console version I would be delighted and if the PC version can function well without them then why can't the console version? What is the difference? You can use a controller on both so controller usage itself can't be the answer to that question.

    Forget about KB&M usage and forget about framerates.

    I want the console version of the game to play the same as the PC version of the game when using a controller.

    Why does there HAVE to be a difference in game mechanics between PC and Console when using the same inputs? Does framerate effect whether a bullet goes where you have pointed?


  • #101
    Dcully
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Forget about KB&M usage and forget about framerates.

    Your just choosing to ignore what is blatantly obvious so and the very reason you seem to be upset about.
    Its like your being explained the reasons for what your complaining about but choose to ignore the fact.
    Bloom being gone or limited in comparison to console version is nothing to do with frame rates or resolution. That is a gameplay mechanic they have changed on the PC version.


    What is this bloom you speak of?
    Only bloom i know of is the graphical lighting effect called Bloom.


    Framerate makes a dramatic difference, combine that with M&KB 30 fps is goingto play like a snail compared to 144fps regardless of the game your playing.


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