Should date be set to cut off long-term dole wasters ?"

Fcuk sake

In before the cut-off.

No longer than 5 years and then your on your own seems fair

Yeah let's kill all the poor people one step under you on the social ladder, then let the next step above you kill you and your kind cause you're not as rich as they are, ah social economic progression, capitalism 101.

Somehow this thread will continue for longer than it should and end up with 2 posters arguing about some form of legislation until 4am and the last post before it dies will have numerous phrases highlighted in bold with the last comment being " you don't have a clue" in Irish.

After 1 year people on social welfare become crack addicts: Fact.

What needs to be done is better tracking of individual welfare cases. For example, each month when signing on, the welfare recipient would be asked for evidence in printed form that they are actively seeking employment. This way, it would become increasingly obvious who is abusing the system and is genuinely doing their best to get off it.

Then, after a year, for example, those with clearly no intention of coming off it would have it cut by increments of €10 for every month thereafter that they are on it. For those who are trying their level best to get work, they could organize interviews to fast track their employment. By the way, this DOES NOT mean free labor as was the case with Job Bridge.

There are the exceptions such as those with disabilities who need as much time as they want to get a job. I understand that there are those who might give up job hunting when they have been unsuccessful for a year or more as it is soul destroying. This is where organized and perhaps guided interviews could be carried out.

I don't agree with a fixed or hard deadline as is being suggested by the OP.

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I think if you haven't paid in, you don't reap out.

Next time you're driving a car on the road, or stepping onto public transport, make sure you allow any person who has paid more in taxes than yourself to proceed ahead of you; after all, they've paid in more than you, and should reap more of the benefits.

That argument is circular as can be seen. The fact is welfare recipients do pay in, and pay a higher proportion of their disposable income than a lot of higher tax earners, as most of their small income is disposable, and is spent within the country as soon as they receive it.

No I don't think it should be cut but I do think something should be put in place. Sometimes I wonder how can you be "genuinely seeking work" for 5 years? But on the other hand I can see how heading back to work can be completely daunting for people and they are using the system as a crutch. After 5+ years out of work your confidence would be totally shattered. It's clear that the new Seetec/Job Path schemes aren't working and are only making people more fed up.