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Kids on Flights

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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Solutions so far for those that don't like noisy kids on airplanes:

    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Make a special pay extra area for people that want to be away from screaming kids (but it already exists)
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Segregation of airplanes for families
    - Don't take your kids on holidays
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Don't let kids on planes

    Didn't know we had so many Pharma Reps in AH :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    But if you don't like the reaction of others? Well then...don't get on a plane.

    I do see in the thread that several parents have said they worried about bringing a child on a plane, or they have not done it since, because of all those other precious passengers who can't deal, so this hostility to children is working on at least some parents to limit their travel choices.

    Just not on me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,073 ✭✭✭Rubberlegs


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    "about 20 minutes into the flight got upset and cried and cried. Nothing would calm her down until the plane landed"

    "The same happened again only worse about halfway home, she had a total meltdown"

    So you put your child through this because...

    "I hadn't had a break in ages and we were just going over for the weekend to a family occasion"

    So this wasn't a necessary thing like taking the child to the dentist or the doctor or something that they won't exactly enjoy but that is absolutely necessary.

    Did your 2 year old comprehend that the other lady wanted her to shut up? You took offence on your daughters behalf but it was you who willingly put your daughter in that position in the first place.

    Jesus ! So basically do you think that parents with small kids don't deserve to go anywhere? How was I supposed to know I was going to "put my child through this'" until I tried a short flight with her ? Parents travel with babys in arms with no bother. Ah well at least I haven't inflicted her on a plane of people since ;)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    inforfun wrote: »
    You have read the initial point I made with the tablet? 100% volume up so 4 rows in each direction the people have to "enjoy" peppa pig?

    I couldnt care less if they used headphones so no one else hears a thing.

    Did you happen to get the model of the tablet? I'm looking for one with speakers you can hear more than 50cm away but no luck so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    Winterlong wrote: »
    What the..?

    Kids are unpredictable. Especially when they are babies and toddlers. Would you suggest that no parents ever take their kids on a plane unless they can guarantee the kid will not cry?
    It's not as if the poster knew the child would be upset. Or that they ignored the child.

    So if you are planning to take your child on a flight are you not wondering what might happen or what you'll do if something goes wrong?

    Whether or not the kids will cry is largely irrelevant to me. In a lot of these stories it straight up sounds like the flight has been a traumatic experience for the child.

    A traumatic experience for what? A vacation? OK.

    One of the first posts on this was "the child would probably suffer a lot more if they tried to travel to Spain by car".

    Um, shouldn't the parents goal be to make sure that the child doesn't suffer at all?

    It seems like an admission that the child has to suffer but if people want to have their vacation then that's the acceptable cost.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    73Cat wrote: »
    Jesus ! So basically do you think that parents with small kids don't deserve to go anywhere? How was I supposed to know I was going to "put my child through this'" until I tried a short flight with her ? Parents travel with babys in arms with no bother. Ah well at least I haven't inflicted her on a plane of people since ;)

    Nope. I was thinking that if I had to put my child through a traumatic or potentially traumatic experience so I could have a holiday then I would probably not do that.

    I don't really care about the other passengers. Not the most pressing issue here. Grown adults should be able to tolerate a bit of noise on a flight. Are those grumbling passengers really the "villains" here though?

    Hey I just put my child through a couple of hours of hell but these people tutting and rolling their eyes are the real baddies here. OK then.

    Can flights not potentially make your child vomit, cause them to have difficulty breathing, cause pain in their ears, cause constipation and dehydration? That's before we even consider the fact that they might just be f-ing terrified.

    Now, how is a young child going to communicate to you that they are having any or all or some of those problems?

    You need your holiday, so. It's all good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭irishmoss


    73Cat wrote: »
    I have been reading this thread with interest, and horror at some people's opinions. I was the parent with the child having a meltdown on a plane.
    The woman behind stuck her head in between the seats and asked me to please "shut her up".

    As soon as the plane landed, herself was all smiles again, ran off the plane all delighted, little wagon!
    //End Quote

    Sounds like the woman was desperate and all she did was say "please" ask her to shut up and you stood up in a rage? Why call her a wagon? Sounds to me like you were totally frustrated yourself with the problem and took it out on the woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,073 ✭✭✭Rubberlegs


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    Nope. I was thinking that if I had to put my child through a traumatic or potentially traumatic experience so I could have a holiday then I would probably not do that.

    I don't really care about the other passengers. Not the most pressing issue here. Grown adults should be able to tolerate a bit of noise on a flight. Are those grumbling passengers really the "villains" here though?

    Hey I just put my child through a couple of hours of hell but these people tutting and rolling their eyes are the real baddies here. OK then.

    Can flights not potentially make your child vomit, cause them to have difficulty breathing, cause pain in their ears, cause constipation and dehydration?

    Now, how is a young child going to communicate to you that they are having any or all or some of those problems?

    You need your holiday, so. It's all good.

    Flight to London 50 minutes at best. My child could talk pretty well at two, so no problem there. Ah no, sure I am the villain of the piece for taking my kids away for a weekend! Do you have kids yourself ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    73Cat wrote: »
    Flight to London 50 minutes at best. My child could talk pretty well at two, so no problem there. Ah no, sure I am the villain of the piece for taking my kids away for a weekend! Do you have kids yourself ?

    Oh FFS.

    I am not saying that you shouldn't take your kids away for a trip.

    I am not saying that kids shouldn't be on flights.

    OK? OK.

    What I am saying is that there are plenty of people who describe a situation that sounds like it was absolute hell for their child but just brush it off because they wanted a holiday and then proceed to criticise other people for the terrible crime of giving out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I'd rather put myself through a three hours flight with the child than an overnight ferry.

    Theres a bar on the ferry.

    Plus you can throw the child overboard


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Solutions so far for those that don't like noisy kids on airplanes:

    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Make a special pay extra area for people that want to be away from screaming kids (but it already exists)
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Segregation of airplanes for families
    - Don't take your kids on holidays
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Don't let kids on planes

    Didn't know we had so many Pharma Reps in AH :pac::pac:

    A free punch at one of the parents or the offending screamer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,068 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    What I am saying is that there are plenty of people who describe a situation that sounds like it was absolute hell for their child but just brush it off because they wanted a holiday and then proceed to criticise other people for the terrible crime of giving out.

    To be fair, that happens in supermarkets, cars, sitting rooms and all over the place. I haven't got kids but I've seen my niece throw tantrums that terrify me. And she is honestly distressed at that point. However it's perfectly normal for it to happen and it can happen anywhere.

    I would hate to be stuck on a plane anywhere near a child like that. I would hate even more to be the parent of a child who's doing that.

    However i know it's natural and I don't hold the parent to blame. I would however be pissed if the kids were older and should know better and the parent wasn't doing anything to control them.

    One last thing. If anyone out there is a parent of a toddler who threw a sh1t fit on a plane, you don't need to apologise. However it's really nice when you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,068 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Solutions so far for those that don't like noisy kids on airplanes:

    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Make a special pay extra area for people that want to be away from screaming kids (but it already exists)
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Segregation of airplanes for families
    - Don't take your kids on holidays
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Drug kids for flights
    - Don't let kids on planes

    Didn't know we had so many Pharma Reps in AH :pac::pac:

    How about drugs for everyone else? I wouldn't mind a free valium and noise cancelling headphone if I had to sit next to a noisy child :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    It seems like an admission that the child has to suffer but if people want to have their vacation then that's the acceptable cost.

    By this standard, children have to suffer every mealtime. Every bedtime. Every time they have had enough TV or Internet time. Every time they have to get up out of bed. Every time they pass a display of sweets and don't get any. Every time they have to go for a walk or play outside, or leave Granny's house.

    Children's lives are a succession of things that can cause them to throw a wobbler and melt down. They usually don't, just like most kids on planes don't most of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Haha, yeah, the dirty looks you get by default when you board a plan with a toddler. Couldn't care less honestly. I once got called selfish for flying with kids, even though mine are good on flights (bless them) and my family that's spread across Europe should come and visit me, not the other way around.
    For some reason some people are incredibly touchy for sounds on a flight. It's public transport after all. Do same people also kick up a stink when people with crying kids are on a bus?
    I'm sorry but I really don't get this "lock all kids away" attitude from some, this is so ridiculously childish. I'm not talking about kids running riot but just kids crying because of the pressure or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    ...Children's lives are a succession of things that can cause them to throw a wobbler and melt down. They usually don't...

    Hah! Wait 'til they have a go at Adulting! :pac:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    A free punch at one of the parents or the offending screamer?

    I'll update that list and redistribute. Although I would prefer a Rock Bottom or Stone Cold Stunner instead of a punch as it would have more impact in the confined space of the plane.
    Grayson wrote: »
    How about drugs for everyone else? I wouldn't mind a free valium and noise cancelling headphone if I had to sit next to a noisy child
    The cost of flying would escalate!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Kids were quiet on flights that I was on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    By this standard, children have to suffer every mealtime. Every bedtime. Every time they have had enough TV or Internet time. Every time they have to get up out of bed. Every time they pass a display of sweets and don't get any. Every time they have to go for a walk or play outside, or leave Granny's house.

    Children's lives are a succession of things that can cause them to throw a wobbler and melt down. They usually don't, just like most kids on planes don't most of the time.

    Existence is pain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    I'll update that list and redistribute. Although I would prefer a Rock Bottom or Stone Cold Stunner instead of a punch as it would have more impact in the confined space of the plane.

    Would one manage a Spinning Piledriver in the aisle of the average airliner, do you think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Did you happen to get the model of the tablet? I'm looking for one with speakers you can hear more than 50cm away but no luck so far.

    Nope, was sitting behind me but it must have been a good one because i could hear that ****ing pig word for word. It was pink so probably not your colour anyway.

    22.30 on a sunday night 1 kid screaming her lungs out and the other one with a tablet volume on 11 straight behind me.
    Thank **** it was only a 50 minute flight


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Would one manage a Spinning Piledriver in the aisle of the average airliner, do you think?

    That should be left to the professionals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    ...The cost of flying would escalate!

    ...or Michael O'Leary would start issuing flight attendants with socks with a couple of baseballs in, for those passengers wishing to be relieved of child-noises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    jimgoose wrote: »
    ...or Michael O'Leary would start issuing flight attendants with socks with a couple of baseballs in, for those passengers wishing to be relived of child-noises.

    Don't give him ideas there!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    jimgoose wrote: »
    ...or Michael O'Leary would start issuing flight attendants with socks with a couple of baseballs in, for those passengers wishing to be relieved of child-noises.

    The new tag line:

    Ryanair - Where prison rules apply


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Tbh noise cancelling headphones all round seem the best solution. I have a pair and you don't even have to be listening to something, just stick them on and can't hear a thing. Mind you if you want a sleep they're not the comfiest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    LirW wrote: »
    Don't give him ideas there!

    Thats worth paying for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    The new tag line:

    Ryanair - Where prison rules apply

    "Get busy livin', or get busy flyin'!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    He'll charge you a tenner but you get it half price if you pay for a seat :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    jimgoose wrote: »
    ...or Michael O'Leary would start issuing flight attendants with socks with a couple of baseballs in, for those passengers wishing to be relieved of child-noises.

    I might just apply for a job there then.


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