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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #5462
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    When you live with depression every day of the week, there doesn't tend to be any added or removed when your favourite fighter wins or loses. I'm proud of Conor in victory or defeat.

    All that being said I'd prefer if he wins because it will attract new viewers to the wonderful sport of MMA and that's good :) Regardless of how I feel about Conor as a fan, Floyd is a scumbag who batters women.... So even if it was Jeff Horn fighting him I'd be disappointed if Floyd wins.

    It sort of boggles my mind that many Irish people want the woman-beater to win.


    If we were to bring stuff about their personal lives im not sure who wins that argument and thats saying something . Just stick to the sport


  • #5463
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Gintonious wrote: »
    Do you think his 396-1 amateur record in boxing contributed to that?

    Also, showing more footage like this, giving a bit away, no?
    His father made him learn how to dance as a child. before he was allowed take up boxing. Some kind of Russian ballet. He's not doing anything new it's just he's really really good at it and it looks so obvious. Pacman has a similar move where he throws the left and flys out to his right where he can't be hit.


  • #5464
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    When you live with depression every day of the week, there doesn't tend to be any added or removed when your favourite fighter wins or loses. I'm proud of Conor in victory or defeat.

    All that being said I'd prefer if he wins because it will attract new viewers to the wonderful sport of MMA and that's good :) Regardless of how I feel about Conor as a fan, Floyd is a scumbag who batters women.... So even if it was Jeff Horn fighting him I'd be disappointed if Floyd wins.

    It sort of boggles my mind that many Irish people want the woman-beater to win.

    I dislike lots of things about Floyd.

    I dislike lots of things about Conor.

    But in a boxing match Floyd will win.


  • #5465
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »

    It sort of boggles my mind that many Irish people want the woman-beater to win.

    Will you ever let this angle go.....


  • #5466
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    nacho libre wrote: »
    He won't. You are misguided. Canelo the best boxer in divison, couldn't do it , so there is no way a novice will do it.
    I hope you will acknowledge this after the fight, that you won't start on about how Conor would win in a "real fight"
    I can see that's the angle/tactic some of those who can't be objective about this will start to use.

    Conor isn't a novice fighter.

    Anyway, no excuses from me if Floyd wins. There are no moral victories here, it's black-and-white for me personally: If Conor wins the fight he wins. If Conor drops Floyd 3 times and loses 115-113 on all scorecards, he loses and failed.

    Will I give him some credit if he is the first man to drop Floyd cleanly? Sure but so will everyone. It still won't change the fact he lost. Win = win, Lose = Lose. Black and white. If he loses, he wasn't good enough.

    Can you say the same if Conor wins?


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  • #5467
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    He is a 'novice' boxing fighter.

    Oh, sorry, boxing and fighter doesn't mix...I forgot.


  • #5468
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Conor isn't a novice fighter.

    Anyway, no excuses from me if Floyd wins. There are no moral victories here, it's black-and-white for me personally: If Conor wins the fight he wins. If Conor drops Floyd 3 times and loses 115-113 on all scorecards, he loses and failed.

    Will I give him some credit if he is the first man to drop Floyd cleanly? Sure but so will everyone. It still won't change the fact he lost. Win = win, Lose = Lose. Black and white. If he loses, he wasn't good enough.

    Can you say the same if Conor wins?

    Wonder, just prepare yourself for Conor to be dropped a couple of times and to quit.... again.


  • #5469
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Floyd via DQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P4lmDPozKk

    Footage leaked: McGregor to emply noodle hands technique.


  • #5470
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    He is a 'novice' boxing fighter.

    And as I showed you in the video I linked, he isn't going to fight like a boxer so that is irrelevant.

    Conor is not a novice throwing punches from long range from a karate stance, he's a Master in this style, just like Floyd is in his own style.

    This is a clash of experts in 2 very different styles of fighting and we'll see who wins. If everything you believe to be true about boxing is actually true, then Floyd should win easy-as-pie. If everything I believe to be true about fighting is actually true, then Conor can get in there and flatten him.

    As John Kavanagh said, one camp is delusional. We both can't be right. If it's me being delusional I'll be on-hand at 6am tomorrow night to say so.


  • #5471
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Conor isn't a novice fighter.

    Anyway, no excuses from me if Floyd wins. There are no moral victories here, it's black-and-white for me personally: If Conor wins the fight he wins. If Conor drops Floyd 3 times and loses 115-113 on all scorecards, he loses and failed.

    Will I give him some credit if he is the first man to drop Floyd cleanly? Sure but so will everyone. It still won't change the fact he lost. Win = win, Lose = Lose. Black and white. If he loses, he wasn't good enough.

    Can you say the same if Conor wins?

    I would give him all the credit he would deservedly deserve if he beats him. No question.


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  • #5472
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »

    As John Kavanagh said, one camp is delusional. We both can't be right. If it's me being delusional I'll be on-hand at 6am tomorrow night to say so.

    Well, no. If it turns out to be a competitively fought fight then no camp is delusional really.


  • #5473
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Wonder, just prepare yourself for Conor to be dropped a couple of times and to quit.... again.

    He has quit before but not in the fight you think he did - and he learned from it.

    Anyway, I've already said my biggest worry (one I'm prepared for) is Floyd landing a crippling body shot to drop him. That's extremely likely all things being equal and is the biggest danger. If Floyd hurts Conor to the body it is the beginning of the end.


  • #5474
    TheChosenOne_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭TheChosenOne_


    Conor via DQ
    The best part about Conor dropping Floyd on his woman beating arse will be all you boxing snobs crawling back under your rocks


  • #5475
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    Well, no. If it turns out to be a competitively fought fight then no camp is delusional really.

    If it's a competitive fight then Floyd's camp and boxing purists were proved to be delusional.

    Max Kellerman for example said Conor won't land a single clean punch. If the fight turns out to be a Hagler-Hearns war with 114-114, 115-113 scorecards, then the likes of Kellerman were proven delusional.


  • #5476
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    TheChosenOne_ wrote: »
    The best part about Conor dropping Floyd on his woman beating arse will be all you boxing snobs crawling back under your rocks

    Welcome to the BOXING forum.


  • #5477
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    If it's a competitive fight then Floyd's camp and boxing purists were proved to be delusional.

    Max Kellerman for example said Conor won't land a single clean punch. If the fight turns out to be a Hagler-Hearns war with 114-114, 115-113 scorecards, then the likes of Kellerman were proven delusional.

    But by that logic then so is Conor's camp. Remember their bonkers predictions?


  • #5478
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    TheChosenOne_ wrote: »
    The best part about Conor dropping Floyd on his woman beating arse will be all you boxing snobs crawling back under your rocks

    I know. We sure are desperate snobs to think that Floyd wins this.


  • #5479
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    I know. We sure are desperate snobs to think that Floyd wins this.

    sunday's going to be fun in here , given the uptick in trolling from the McGregor fanboys!


  • #5480
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    I have no doubt floyd will win - does that make me a boxing snob?

    I've never been called a snob before - it's actually quite nice...


  • #5481
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    begbysback wrote: »
    I've never been called a snob before - it's actually quite nice...

    Agreed. Much better than being seen as uncouth!:)


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  • #5482
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    But by that logic then so is Conor's camp. Remember their bonkers predictions?

    John Kavanagh thinks Conor wins by KO in Round 6.

    If it turns into a 12-round-war he was on the right track that Conor would land many punches cleanly.

    Max Kellerman would be the delusional one.


  • #5483
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Floyd via DQ
    Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home


  • #5484
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    John Kavanagh thinks Conor wins by KO in Round 6.

    If it turns into a 12-round-war he was on the right track that Conor would land many punches cleanly.

    Max Kellerman would be the delusional one.

    Sorry, what are you on about?

    I kept this as simple as possible.

    Conor is talking about wining easily inside 4 rds. JK is saying Conor wins in the first rd if Floyd comes at him, the 6th rd if Floyd backs off.

    I never mentioned wars. I said if the fight turns out to be competitive then neither camp is really delusional.

    Or, both are delusional because both got their verdicts wrong.

    You can't apply this delusional sh1t to only one camp should the fight turn out to be competitive.

    It's actually the non boxing camp that are claiming a clearer type win here. Easier as well.

    And the boxing community are the snobs?

    You couldn't make it up.


  • #5485
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,037 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Conor via DQ
    If conor wins it would have to be early... It's not delusional, otherwise he'll gas or floyd will win


  • #5486
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Floyd via DQ
    What time are the weigh-ins?


  • #5487
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    What time are the weigh-ins?

    11 o' clock

    I'll depart with a gift:

    29:14 onwards. Eubank recites Invictus in tribute to Conor and reminds everyone that sometimes something is so obvious, it's elusive.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerZ-jO_Cv0


  • #5488
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Eubank is a grade A tit!


  • #5489
    ThinkProgress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    A little video for all the 'experts' in here who dismissed me when I told them categorically Conor would fight primarily from his karate stance.

    I've actually watched a few of that dude's videos... he sees what he wants to see (just like yourself really)... He also couldn't be more of a Conor n**hugger if he tried.

    The only thing I see in that video, is a martial artist trying to become a boxer!
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    No. They said he would fight like a boxer.

    Conor has said multiple times himself, that he is going to become a boxer and outbox Floyd...

    All the other guff about Bruce Lee... changing the game etc... it's simply just BS, designed to suck people like yourself in. And it's working like a charm!! ;)

    Just because something might go against traditional thinking doesn't mean it can't be effective if you're extremely skilled at it.

    Everyone brings their own style to a fight... regardless of what type of fight.

    But Conor will be a boxer when he gets into that ring on the 26th. He will look a bit unusual and a bit clumsy... but he'll be a boxer. Again, he has said this multiple times himself.

    wonderfullife wrote: »
    All that being said I'd prefer if he wins because it will attract new viewers to the wonderful sport of MMA and that's good :)

    And what about the sport of boxing...??

    You have stated that you are a fan of boxing... and Conor has stated how big a fan of the sport he is too...

    So, if Floyd wins, and looks great doing it... will you be happy for boxing? Will you be happy for all the new boxing fans, that will be admiring Floyd's skills??

    Surely it goes both ways, if you are a fan of combat sports in general?
    It sort of boggles my mind that many Irish people want the woman-beater to win.

    I actually haven't come across too many Irish people, who want Floyd to win...

    There is a big difference between believing someone will win, and wanting/hoping that they win! (especially when that belief is based on solid logic, and evidence)

    Not everyone is capable of suspending reality, like yourself and others, just because they desperately want their favourite fighter to win!
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    And as I showed you in the video I linked, he isn't going to fight like a boxer so that is irrelevant.

    There are many different styles of boxers... Conor has said he will become a boxer, and outbox Floyd. (his words)
    If everything I believe to be true about fighting is actually true, then Conor can get in there and flatten him.

    Didn't you say he is going to win on points...?? He's going to outbox him, right? (:pac:)

    Considering Conor only has one clean KO on his UFC record (the rest are all TKO's)... and he failed to finish Paulie, with his best shots... How is he going to "flatten" Mayweather??

    He stated himself, those sparring sessions were proper bouts... not just messing around. That's why he got a pro referee in for them. And he hit Paulie flush with his hardest shots (not on the headgear). But didn't finish him...

    Floyd knows that Conor doesn't have the power to finish him... or the boxing ability to land clean and often... otherwise he certainly would never have requested 8 oz gloves!

    Conor is now facing someone, who does not fear what he brings... and does not get psyched out by his mind games either!! This is a completely different ball game to the guys he has fought in the UFC...


  • #5490
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    Love Eubank as an entertaining boxer - but he's fcukin bonkers... it's like he's always trying to recite the latest philosophy book he's read, but can never actually remember the words...

    The term "scraping the bottom of the barrel" comes to mind...


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  • #5491
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    begbysback wrote: »
    Love Eubank as an entertaining boxer - but he's fcukin bonkers... it's like he's always trying to recite the latest philosophy book he's read, but can never actually remember the words...

    The term "scraping the bottom of the barrel" comes to mind...


    The Conor guys are lapping him up


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