Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

Outlaw Pete · 24-08-2017 07:48AM

Floyd via DQ

In the rematch he fought using the kind of tactics you'd associate more with some neerdowell mma guy :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nUxv7fYHII

hbhook · 24-08-2017 07:53AM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

The absolute pr1ck..

And for anyone doubting it go watch his post fight interview with Max Kellerman after he was "robbed" against Juan Diaz!

I thought he was dead right there.
He had concerns before the fight about it being in Texas. Diaz is from Texas. He fought practically the exact same way in Chicago I think in the rematch and guess wha?

weldoninhio · 24-08-2017 08:09AM

Floyd via DQ

Muahahaha wrote: »

Not all all walshb, weldoninhio said a McGregor win is so unlikely that he offered odds of 500-1.

I and several other posters wanted to take up him on that bet. I genuinely offered 500 euro, that offer was refused so I offered 20 cents, that was laughed at so then I offered 1 euro and then he vanished from the thread . He is still here though as he just thanked your post. This is what is known as hiding behind your mothers skirt.

If weldoninhio can follow through on his 500-1 offer then I will gladly give any winnings to any charity of his choice. And if Mayweather wins then it is free money for weldoninhio. Now who would refuse free money? weldoninhio would by the looks of it....he has been called out so lets see if he can back his brave words up? ....if he is so confident of Mayweather winning then how can he possibly refuse some free money?

My last post on this gambling nonsense. I never refused your €500 bet, you started looking for bank guarantees/escrow etc. 20c or €1 aren't worth my while. Thank you and goodbye.

Maravilla33 · 24-08-2017 09:11AM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Floyd isn't even a fighter nevermind a "prizefighter".

Floyd is a boxer.
Conor is a fighter.

Big difference. If you want to see the difference demonstrated, put them in an Octagon where kicks and elbows can be used and press start on your stopwatch. Floyd is unconscious inside 60 seconds.

A prizefighter is a term to describe a boxer. How are you even arguing this? When Arum stated Conor aint no Prizefighter he meant he is no boxer.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/prizefighter

Ush1 · 24-08-2017 09:37AM

Floyd via DQ

ThinkProgress wrote: »

Anderson's striking is what made him great... GSP did manage to carve out a very good career, by lying on top of people... but he was very fortunate, that he never fought Anderson. Not taking anything away from his career, but he clearly never really wanted to fight prime Anderson... he would have been taken apart in a stand-up fight! (imo)

Jose Aldo... great ground game... but his last two losses, have come from being outmatched on the feet. In fact, his ground skills allowed him to survive much longer against Holloway, than he really should have. But his stand-up game, was what let him down!

Conor does NOT have great ground skills... he is average, at best, in that department. But again, not really surprised that you hold such a delusional view. It's becoming a recurring theme with you, it seems... :rolleyes:

Ground skills are obviously very important... but mostly, it's just important to not be totally rubbish on the ground. You don't actually require great ground skills, IF you have a high level stand-up game!

So again... I think you can make a very strong argument, for why boxing skills in particular, can help you become a dominant champion in the UFC. And not just the skills... but also the conditioning.

I think if you could take some elite boxers, and give them some basic ground skills... they could be very successful in MMA. They would not need to be great on the ground... just decent.

If you flip it around, I really don't think the elite strikers in MMA could transfer into boxing, and become top pro boxing champions. But you're correct, we are going to get a very interesting window into this question in a few days!

Sorry to bring this off topic but...

He was lucky not to fight a guy much, much larger than him who was undefeated fighting in two weight classes above GSP? GSP was lying on top of guys, is that not what the equivalent of what Floyd has been doing in boxing title fights for the last 10 odd years? But I wouldn't say Floyd has had a very good career, more that he's an all time great (as is GSP).

If Anderson made 170 he could fight GSP but he didn't. Same as Anderson could have fought Jon Jones but that didn't happen. I don't think I'd describe that as "luck".

Also, how would you explain Damien Maia on your logic that all you need is a decent ground game and high level stand up?

Maia recently went to a decision for the 170 title with relatively poor stand-up(certainly by boxing standards) but elite ground skills. Look at Khabib Nurmagomedov also.

I'd encourage anyone with your mind set from a striking background to take a wrestling class to see just how difficult it can be to stay on your feet against a good wrestler.

Frank Bullitt · 24-08-2017 10:06AM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Floyd isn't even a fighter nevermind a "prizefighter".

Floyd is a boxer.
Conor is a fighter.

Big difference. If you want to see the difference demonstrated, put them in an Octagon where kicks and elbows can be used and press start on your stopwatch. Floyd is unconscious inside 60 seconds.

It amazes me when you say something like this, but you get bent out of shape when someone says Floyd will do the same to Conor in the fight on Saturday.

You're agreeing with some MMA pundits because it fits your narrative that win, lose or draw, Conor is still the more elite superhuman athlete, and boxers can only box so therefore MMA still wins. Of course you are going to get backlash in the boxing forum over that.

Saying Floyd isn't a prizefighter despite this being his 50th prize fight baffles me, I know you worship Conor, but saying something ridiculous like that just comes across as limited in knowledge.

THere is only a few days left before this is all over, but I suspect that this "he is a fighter, he is not" crap might carry on.

StringerBell · 24-08-2017 10:15AM

Floyd via DQ

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

dana has been brilliant during this. All the waffle we had to endure from showtime and then dana get's straight to the point "here's conor mcgregor" job done

He did say Conor has surpassed Ali in every way though and has made plenty more waffley comments in the run up to keep pace!

The Nal · 24-08-2017 10:27AM

StringerBell wrote: »

He did say Conor has surpassed Ali in every way though

Did he?!

Frank Bullitt · 24-08-2017 10:29AM

Floyd via DQ

https://twitter.com/Sporf/status/900616482475749376

Nothing gets passed Floyd, not even a fan.

Sweet Science · 24-08-2017 10:32AM

Conor on points

The my Dad would bash your Dad argument is hilarious.

UFC is a shambles at the moment . Boxing is thriving again.

Its all good baby

weldoninhio · 24-08-2017 10:38AM

Floyd via DQ

StringerBell wrote: »

And isn't it incredible this line of thinking only clicked in your head when it was spouted by the other two guys who were,yes, embarrassing themselves also. Parroting them is actually worse, have you thought yourself why this never occurred to you to before?

I am not going to waste any time arguing this one with you, its like Trump regurgitating the latest thing he has seen on Fox and Friends, you are wrong. They are wrong, but at least they don't believe what they are saying.

Conor is a prizefighter also, isn't it mad that just because Bob Arum said he isn't I don't automatically swallow that and run with it since I can see it for the bull**** it is?

Like I said, embarrassing.

wrote:

The Oxford Dictionary defines a fight as: "a violent confrontation or struggle."

The Oxford Dictionary also defines prizefight as below. So I guess that means that McGregor/Sonnen etc aren't actually prizefighters, and Floyd etc are.

prizefight
NOUN

A boxing match fought for prize money.

from [HTML]https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/prizefight[/HTML]

ThinkProgress · 24-08-2017 10:49AM

Floyd via DQ

Ush1 wrote: »

Sorry to bring this off topic but...

He was lucky not to fight a guy much, much larger than him who was undefeated fighting in two weight classes above GSP? GSP was lying on top of guys, is that not what the equivalent of what Floyd has been doing in boxing title fights for the last 10 odd years? But I wouldn't say Floyd has had a very good career, more that he's an all time great (as is GSP).

If Anderson made 170 he could fight GSP but he didn't. Same as Anderson could have fought Jon Jones but that didn't happen. I don't think I'd describe that as "luck".

Also, how would you explain Damien Maia on your logic that all you need is a decent ground game and high level stand up?

Maia recently went to a decision for the 170 title with relatively poor stand-up(certainly by boxing standards) but elite ground skills. Look at Khabib Nurmagomedov also.

I'd encourage anyone with your mind set from a striking background to take a wrestling class to see just how difficult it can be to stay on your feet against a good wrestler.

I'm only really poking some fun at GSP... he obviously had a great career. And he was a lot more than just a good wrestler too... his stand-up skills were actually pretty decent. (not on Anderson's level - but still fairly sharp)

The latter half of his career, he was very conservative. He didn't take many risks... he knew how to win fights, without taking much damage or risk, and that's what he did. He was quite boring to watch near the end of his career, as a consequence of this!

It's my opinion, that he wasn't really interested in the Anderson fight.

I've already said my piece on Demian Maia (actually on this thread)... I think he's very overrated as an MMA fighter. He's a throwback to an earlier era... the gracie/shamrock era... he's a dinosaur, soon to be extinct.

MMA is evolving... high level striking is what most fans want to see now... And it's what you need as a top fighter!

Khabib... I'll hold judgement on him for now. There are plenty of ??marks over him. I could potentially see him winning the title. But he won't become a dominant champion, unless he improves his stand-up skills! (and his injury record)

Please don't make assumptions about my background/knowledge... I am somewhat biased towards striking skills in MMA. I don't even attempt to hide this fact... (why should I? We all have our personal preferences) but don't take that to mean, that I lack understanding of the ground game. Or that I dismiss it's importance!

Ush1 · 24-08-2017 11:07AM

Floyd via DQ

I'm from a striking background myself but it came across as all you have to have is good striking and okay grappling, I'm just saying it's not that simple.

It takes as long to get proficient at grappling as it does in striking IMO, and that's striking, not just boxing.

Sure we'll leave it there as it's fairly off topic...

StringerBell · 24-08-2017 11:51AM

Floyd via DQ

The Nal wrote: »

Did he?!

Yep

UFC president Dana White has said “Conor McGregor has surpassed Muhammad Ali on all levels”.

Pighead · 24-08-2017 12:14PM

Conor via DQ

StringerBell wrote: »

Yep

What's the source for that quote? I know Dana can flip flop with the best of them but he's an Ali nut and in any interview I've seen he always makes sure to stress you can't compare anybody to Ali. He has often stated that Conor has the best mental warfare game since Ali alright but I've never heard him say that Conor has surpassed him.

gilmour · 24-08-2017 12:15PM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Go away out of that..

He came across as nothing but a whiney sore losing pr1ck..

Practically admitting the fight was very close and then crying that the decision went against him...

i had Paulie winning 8-4, two out of the three judges had it 10-2 the other way ffs

JaMarcusHustle · 24-08-2017 12:30PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

I'd be happy to see the fight pushed back a couple of weeks just to facilitate more discussion of what constitutes a "fighter".

Gripping stuff altogether.

The Nal · 24-08-2017 12:33PM

Ush1 wrote: »

I'm from a striking background myself but it came across as all you have to have is good striking and okay grappling, I'm just saying it's not that simple.

It takes as long to get proficient at grappling as it does in striking IMO, and that's striking, not just boxing.

Sure we'll leave it there as it's fairly off topic...

Its very much on topic. And why McGregor is going to be embarrassed on Saturday.

I take no joy from saying that as I'm a big fan and don't like Floyd but its a ridiculous fight.

walshb · 24-08-2017 12:50PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

gilmour wrote: »

i had Paulie winning 8-4, two out of the three judges had it 10-2 the other way ffs

So what...

If several rds were close then it stands to reason that cards could be different.

And who cares what your card read.

The point I made was his stinking whiney reaction to a close fight (he admitted) going against him

Lederman I believe had iot scored 7-5 for Paulie, but admitted that rds were close...

pirlo80 · 24-08-2017 12:57PM

Floyd via DQ

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Sporf/status/900616482475749376

Nothing gets passed Floyd, not even a fan.

Floyd is going to **** Conor up. He was so confident at that presser, almost as if he felt sorry for Conor and the bating he was going to put on him.

I was flip flopping in my mind thinking Conor could make it past 8 but Im back to my belief he'll stop him in 6 - maybe 7, this isnt Mayweather selling a fight, this is him saying Im gonna hurt this Mofo bad and you all are gonna see it.

Im a bit worried for Conor tbh, I dont want to see him embarrassed but I think thats whats gonna happen

walshb · 24-08-2017 01:06PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

pirlo80 wrote: »

Floyd is going to **** Conor up. He was so confident at that presser, almost as if he felt sorry for Conor and the bating he was going to put on him.

I was flip flopping in my mind thinking Conor could make it past 8 but Im back to my belief he'll stop him in 6 - maybe 7, this isnt Mayweather selling a fight, this is him saying Im gonna hurt this Mofo bad and you all are gonna see it.

Im a bit worried for Conor tbh, I dont want to see him embarrassed but I think thats whats gonna happen

Yet the prat is BS us and spoofing us trying to make this out as an actual competitive and credible match.

It's a big reason why I would probably jump up cheering if Conor knocked him out.

BorneTobyWilde · 24-08-2017 01:06PM

McGregor boxes like this literally. I 've seen sparring videos on youtube, he slaps WTF?
Never seen anything like it.

walshb · 24-08-2017 01:07PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

McGregor boxes like this literally. I 've seen sparring videos on youtube, he slaps WTF?
Never seen anything like it.

Didn't do Joe Calzaghe any harm, or Carl Froch!

BorneTobyWilde · 24-08-2017 01:11PM

Why would he hit with side of glove, looks ridiculous. It's quite child like the way he punches, I dunno how effective it will be but it looks soft.

Sweet Science · 24-08-2017 01:13PM

Conor on points

He's changing the face of boxing

dulux99 · 24-08-2017 01:14PM

Floyd via DQ

Is there anyone in this thread who identifies primarily as a boxing fan, and isn't necessarily an MMA fan, who wants McGregor to win? Due to the nature of Floyd being such a despicable pr*ck? It would be quite funny to see karma come and bite him in the arse and make a mockery of his career. However unlikely it may be.

gilmour · 24-08-2017 01:27PM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

So what...

If several rds were close then it stands to reason that cards could be different.

And who cares what your card read.

The point I made was his stinking whiney reaction to a close fight (he admitted) going against him

Lederman I believe had iot scored 7-5 for Paulie, but admitted that rds were close...

Are you really defending Texas judging here Walsh? Really?

Whine or not, he was absolutely right to say what he said because so many fighters before him didnt have the balls to say what he said. That won my respect that night, along with the beating he took by Cotto and still stood in there.

He lost it when he had a haircut midfight

But hands down he's easily the best ringside analyst in the sport right now and its not even close.

murphyebass · 24-08-2017 01:27PM

Floyd via DQ

I find the support for mcgregor quite odd if I'm honest.

I think people are believing his hype and he's good at that alright.

Don't get me wrong I like the guy. He's entertaining and been brilliant in the ufc.

..... BUT this ain't the UFC. Sure he is a striker there for the most part but it ain't the same as boxing and he's never fought in a professional boxing match no matter how much training he's done for it, it's still not his sport.

Floyd on the other hand as much of a prick that he comes across has 49 wins, 26 of which were knockouts!
He's beaten the best there was in his division consistently over a long period of time. He's a true boxer. It's all he knows.

Don't get me wrong part of me would love to see mcgregor do it but I can't see this fight going any other way than a mayweather win and more than likely a knockout (which is what I'll be betting on) after mc Gregor tires himself out, around the 4th or 5th round max. Probably earlier.

All of that said it'll be some spectacle though.

gilmour · 24-08-2017 01:29PM

Floyd via DQ

Jesus i've just remembered that we have to listen to Carl ****ing Froch for the fight as the analyst :mad:

Maravilla33 · 24-08-2017 01:29PM

Floyd via DQ

dulux99 wrote: »

Is there anyone in this thread who identifies primarily as a boxing fan, and isn't necessarily an MMA fan, who wants McGregor to win? Due to the nature of Floyd being such a despicable pr*ck? It would be quite funny to see karma come and bite him in the arse and make a mockery of his career. However unlikely it may be.

Would love to see Conor win even though I've been telling anyone who'd listen he has next to no chance of winning. There will be a lot of egg on my face but would love to see it happen and curious as to how, if it did. Would also love to wake up beside Margot Robbie but I'd say the chances of either happening are about the same.

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