Season 7 Episode 6 "Beyond the Wall" - "Non book readers" - Spoilers from post 2

Has no one alerted to when the hound pointed to the night King defeat him ie we should be going after him (and all the wrights will die and Jon said its more complicated than that!

I taught this was a very important piece of dialogue! Although I dont know why yet but there was definitely something in it

Could of been, My point was what Jon said its more complicated then that! What did he mean by that??

KKkitty wrote: »

Or The Hound to find some fault in his brother that can be used to defeat him? It would be better that way seeing as The Beast disfigured The Hound for life.

What are the chances that Qyburn simply shoved a piece of dragonglass into his chest and put his armour back on?

peteeeed wrote: »

so has anyone tried to explain the huge chains that the walkers had handly brought with them yet ?

I think The Night King sees the future and knew the dragon was coming and that it would die in the lake. Hence he brought the chains in advance.

Brego888 wrote: »

I think The Night King sees the future and knew the dragon was coming and that it would die in the lake. Hence he brought the chains in advance.

Possibly - That would be a common sense reason for why he hasn't pushed on to try and kill Jon yet, despite having a couple of opportunities (although I suppose Jon has killed two of his lieutenants so far so if I was him I'd probably stand back and let the wights do the dirty work as well).

Given that the wights and WW were walking away after Jon climbed out of the water I figured they were going off to get the chains somewhere as opposed to having them there and then and we have no sense of how long after the fight they actually waited to retrieve the dragon.

My guess is that the chains were somewhere else (maybe they looted whatever Mance's horde of freefolk had when they attacked them) or else they had them close by (that arrowhead mountain could be their 'base' as it was also in the background of the scene last season when Bran saw the Children of the Forest creating the first WW)

peteeeed wrote: »

so has anyone tried to explain the huge chains that the walkers had handly brought with them yet ?

Chains likely belonged to the wildlings. Night King either has Visions which meant he knew he was going to be able to take out the dragon, or the scene with them pulling out the dragon was simply days or weeks later and they went and got the chains. The icy water would have preserved the dragon's body.

peteeeed wrote: »

so has anyone tried to explain the huge chains that the walkers had handly brought with them yet ?

Left behind by the wildlings?

Wildlings used chains on the gate when they attacked the wall.

White Walkers attacked and decimated huge Wildling settlement at Hardhome.

I don't think we need 10 minutes of White Walkers trekking to Hardhome (or another Wildling settlement) to get chains and come back. Just add 2+2, it ain't a plothole.

D3sperado wrote: »

Possibly - That would be a common sense reason for why he hasn't pushed on to try and kill Jon yet, despite having a couple of opportunities (although I suppose Jon has killed two of his lieutenants so far so if I was him I'd probably stand back and let the wights do the dirty work as well).

Given that the wights and WW were walking away after Jon climbed out of the water I figured they were going off to get the chains somewhere as opposed to having them there and then and we have no sense of how long after the fight they actually waited to retrieve the dragon.

My guess is that the chains were somewhere else (maybe they looted whatever Mance's horde of freefolk had when they attacked them) or else they had them close by (that arrowhead mountain could be their 'base' as it was also in the background of the scene last season when Bran saw the Children of the Forest creating the first WW)

Too cool!

Anybody know why the dire wolf a couple of episodes back seemed to not really trust Arya, could it not really be her at all. Obviously this theory has been mentioned before.

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Well it hasn't seen her in a few years and the last time they met Arya was throwing stones at her.

Never stopped other dire wolves from instantly remembering their human owners.

JamboMac wrote: »

Anybody know why the dire wolf a couple of episodes back seemed to not really trust Arya, could it not really be her at all. Obviously this theory has been mentioned before.

I was thinking that perhaps she may not be 100% Arya due to taking on the persona/faces of so many people. Something as basic as her scent may have changed because of it to the point where she seems strange to the wolf.

Either that or her training with the faceless man that forced her to relinquish the Arya Stark persona, if only briefly, and refer to herself as, "No one" , may have changed her too.

Ultimately, its been years since they last met and there's is no doubt that Ayra has changed massively.

Why didn't the night king just refreeze the lake, and let the wights tear the magnificent 7 (6) apart?

They instead waited days, so that Gendry could run back, get a raven to fly south, and the dragons to fly back north?

Really good episode, but there were a few bits that were a bit of a joke tbh.

errlloyd wrote: »

I find it quite weird that GoT has no lead character archers. No Legolas type.

Jon is handy with a bow and we've seen Tyrion use a crossbow. Ygritte was an archer too.

Historically in the middle ages the archers would be common people while the upper classes would be horsemen and heavy infantry. Most of the main characters on GoT are drawn from the nobility or upper classes, even the Hound is the son of a landed knight.