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Season 7 Episode 6 "Beyond the Wall" - "Non book readers" - Spoilers from post 2

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  • #332
    False Prophet
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    OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »
    Okay the tv series, unlike the books, hasn't actually spelled out that that he doesn't eat or drink, but the lack of mouth on his helmet is kind of indicative that they're following the books on that one.
    How do you know what the books say?


  • #333
    Brego888
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    Brock Turnpike wrote: »
    I hadn't thought of that. I have a different angle, also pure speculation, which I'll also spoiler...
    I think, based on not much more than his appearance, that Jon is actually Robert's son. I think Lyanna was pregnant with Robert's child when she ran away with Rhaegar. If he was a Targ, he'd have their hair colour.. .

    But he's half stark, maybe the dark haired stark gene is dominant over the Targ!


  • #334
    Cina
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    OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »
    He doesn't eat or drink and even ser Kevan believed him to be undead. Okay the tv series, unlike the books, hasn't actually spelled out that that he doesn't eat or drink, but the lack of mouth on his helmet is kind of indicative that they're following the books on that one.
    Shame.


  • #335
    Brock Turnpike
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    Gendry - talented long distance runner
    Night King - former Olympic javelin thrower

    So many hidden talents


  • #336
    Loafing Oaf
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    False Prophet wrote: »
    How do you know what the books say?

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  • #337
    Pugzilla
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    Haven't read the books myself yet, but I imagine they're far superior to the show.
    What can be shown on TV is limited by budget and shooting restraints.


  • #338
    Shane St.
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    What an episode!


  • #339
    J. Marston
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    Pugzilla wrote: »
    Haven't read the books myself yet, but I imagine they're far superior to the show.
    What can be shown on TV is limited by budget and shooting restraints.

    They are but the later ones can be incredibly slow at times and there's a few storylines that are complete crap.


  • #340
    OneOfThem Stumbled
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    False Prophet wrote: »
    How do you know what the books say?

    I found this amazing new app called google.

    https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Robert_Strong

    I haven't read after Storm of Swords 2 (which matches up with season 3/4 of television). I just can't get over kidnapping a zombie to show Cersei a zombie. It is the most extreme shark jump I've ever seen. How stupid do writers think we are? Is it being serious? Because, other than talk about the "big woman" there aren't many laughs. Mind you, if it really is meant to be comedy I'll feel really foolish now but I'm 99% certain it isn't meant to be comedy.


  • #341
    Avatar MIA
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    Cina wrote: »
    Shame.

    Shame!


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  • #342
    Roger Hassenforder
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    seligehgit wrote: »
    Jon did bend the knee whilst bedridden?

    i thought he did something else with those closed eyes and sighing...

    (i hear its what some do!! :D)


  • #343
    MrsFlushdraw
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
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    I read this thread too despite reading the books!


  • #344
    bnt
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    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    i thought he did something else with those closed eyes and sighing...

    (i hear its what some do!! :D)
    He did make a "sorry I can't literally bend the knee while flat on my back" joke, but calling her "my Queen" did the job ... :cool:

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #345
    KKkitty
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    Is Benjen a white walker now?


  • #346
    J. Marston
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    KKkitty wrote: »
    Is Benjen a white walker now?

    Probably a wight, not a White Walker.


  • #347
    Hastentoadd
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    Many find Arya annoying. And this shouldn't be. Arya spent her younger life in Bravos, going through huge trials and tribulations (mostly trials) so when she appears the far side she should be far more the leader than Sansa (who had lead a privileged life). Instead she looks a twit after all her hardships. And that doesn't ring true with me at all.


  • #348
    Vincent Vega
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    KKkitty wrote: »
    Is Benjen a white walker now?

    Iirc he got saved from them by the children of the forest and they put dragonglass in his chest to stop him becoming one.


  • #349
    False Prophet
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    Hastentoadd wrote: »
    Many find Arya annoying. And this shouldn't be. Arya spent her younger life in Bravos, going through huge trials and tribulations (mostly trials) so when she appears the far side she should be far more the leader than Sansa (who had lead a privileged life). Instead she looks a twit after all her hardships. And that doesn't ring true with me at all.
    :eek: Ahem ramsey bolten says hello...

    understand your point but i'm hoping its on purpose as both have had trials and tribulations throughout the 7 seasons but different paths have molded them.

    Arya trials and tribulations are more combat related. So while highly skilled as an assassin/warrior she has no training in "hearts and minds". eg she has no experience in commanding a kingdom/people. plus she is young and understandable cocky and in GOT no-one is meant to be all good....

    Sansa trials and tribulations are far more leader related. Her training has been "strategic" based. From Cersei to bolten to littlefinger. Sansa should know how the world works better than Arya and how to maneuver in it.

    In short Sansa people skills V Arya combat skill


  • #350
    EagererBeaver
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    Hastentoadd wrote: »
    Many find Arya annoying. And this shouldn't be. Arya spent her younger life in Bravos, going through huge trials and tribulations (mostly trials) so when she appears the far side she should be far more the leader than Sansa (who had lead a privileged life). Instead she looks a twit after all her hardships. And that doesn't ring true with me at all.

    She was trained to be a faceless assassin, to be "no one". She's not meant to be a leader at all.


  • #351
    Brief_Lives
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    Yellow hair, blue eyes, tallest woman you've ever seen. Almost as tall as you.

    Brienne of Tarth?

    YOU KNOW HER?

    You're with Brienne of ****ing Tarth???

    Well not with her yet, but I see the way she looks at me!

    Like she wants to cut out your liver?

    ...You DO know her!

    :D:D:D:D


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  • #352
    Vicxas
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    I knew they'd resurrect that Dragon, in my head my inner nerd was screaming "Lich King did it, Lich King did it"


    Really looking forward to the next episode now.


  • #353
    Brock Turnpike
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    J. Marston wrote: »
    Probably a wight, not a White Walker.

    What did Benjen say to Jon when he met him? I couldn't make it out


  • #354
    Loafing Oaf
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    Brock Turnpike wrote: »
    J. Marston wrote: »
    Probably a wight, not a White Walker.

    What did Benjen say to Jon when he met him? I couldn't make it out

    The horse would be too slow with the two of us or words to that effect.


  • #355
    Adamocovic
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    Pugzilla wrote: »
    Haven't read the books myself yet, but I imagine they're far superior to the show.
    What can be shown on TV is limited by budget and shooting restraints.

    They're very good for extra information and background, but there are times where you'll turn a page see who the next chapter is about and know reading it will be more like a chore.

    Plus god knows if the fecker will ever even finish them!


  • #356
    KKkitty
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    Brief_Lives wrote: »
    Yellow hair, blue eyes, tallest woman you've ever seen. Almost as tall as you.

    Brienne of Tarth?

    YOU KNOW HER?

    You're with Brienne of ****ing Tarth???

    Well not with her yet, but I see the way she looks at me!

    Like she wants to cut out your liver?

    ...You DO know her!

    :D:D:D:D

    Poor Thormund must be gagging for it. All that fighting and he just wants a bit of loving :D Funniest dialogue ever :D


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  • #358
    KKkitty
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    ....... wrote: »
    Brienne seems to be the only woman that men discuss in the show.

    Bronn had a chat with Poderick about her, that he would **** her, he reckoned Jaime would too, why would Poderick not?

    Now Tormund is mad with lust for her, imagining big beautiful babies with her.

    She's some woman for one woman!

    She's not like the other women in the show. She's not dainty by any stretch of the imagination and she's independent. Wonder what her and Arya will feel when they see the Hound is still alive. All this talk about dragons and the Night King and I'm still wondering who or what could defeat the Beast.


  • #359
    Ubbquittious
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    KKkitty wrote: »
    She's not like the other women in the show. She's not dainty by any stretch of the imagination and she's independent. Wonder what her and Arya will feel when they see the Hound is still alive. All this talk about dragons and the Night King and I'm still wondering who or what could defeat the Beast.

    Surely an epic 1-on-1 battle with Jon that leads to him being fatally wounded so Dany can have the throne. Too much of a stereotypical Hollywood ending for Grrm?


  • #360
    KKkitty
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    Ubbquittious wrote: »
    Surely an epic 1-on-1 battle with Jon that leads to him being fatally wounded so Dany can have the throne. Too much of a stereotypical Hollywood ending for Grrm?

    Or The Hound to find some fault in his brother that can be used to defeat him? It would be better that way seeing as The Beast disfigured The Hound for life.


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  • #361
    benny79
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    Has no one alerted to when the hound pointed to the night King defeat him ie we should be going after him (and all the wrights will die and Jon said its more complicated than that!

    I taught this was a very important piece of dialogue! Although I dont know why yet :D but there was definitely something in it


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