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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭turbbo


    rob808 wrote: »
    There not much you can do since this is a commercial rollout annoying as it is your going to have wait and see what happens what your house on the rollout map blue or green.

    Eh? What are you on about? Re-read my posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    turbbo wrote: »
    Eh? What are you on about? Re-read my posts.
    oh ok so it blue then it is a error then most likely fixed in the next update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 rgfinn


    Hey guys, great thread. Going to place my order next week, just doing some installation research. Excuse my lack of jargon. Looking at Decota's post (post number 4461, sorry i can't link or add photos yet)..

    It looks like the fibre comes to a small white box, which then sends the signal via Ethernet to a powered white box, which then sends it to the F2000 modem?

    I have fibre to the cabinet. My existing copper line goes to an access box on the outside of the house, from there it uses some wires from a Cat5e cable into my little comms cabinet where my F2000 is.

    I guess they'll run the fibre to the access box on the outside of the house, where they'll put the first little (unpowered) white box. From there I guess they'll use existing the Cat5e cable to get to my comms cabinet where the powered white box would go. Does that sound correct? I hoped not to change to VOIP for the phone, so do you know if they need my full Cat5e cable to the comms room, or just some wires from it? Hopefully the latter so that i can keep my current phone setup.

    Many thanks for any advice.
    Rob


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Hey Guys, the KN man just left here, Just installed it, Il explain all later, just doing speed tests and its at 93 plugged in from PC to modem, Im on the 150 package.
    I was wondering is my adapter on my PC incapable of going past 100? I see it says 100mbs when I click on it.
    Its a Realtek PCie gbe family controller

    http://imgur.com/SKm05GL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Pangea wrote: »
    Hey Guys, the KN man just left here, Just installed it, Il explain all later, just doing speed tests and its at 93 plugged in from PC to modem, Im on the 150 package.
    I was wondering is my adapter on my PC incapable of going past 100? I see it says 100mbs when I click on it.
    Its a Realtek PCie gbe family controller

    http://imgur.com/SKm05GL

    Yep ..... hardware limitation of NIC.
    I am surprised you are getting 93 .... would expect nearer 80 in real life situation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Just tried a newer cable I had, and it showed up as a new network on my PC, with 1GBs speed .
    Just done speed test and Im delighted!!!

    I have gone from this
    Kf3jFz4.png

    to this
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Pangea wrote: »
    Just tried a newer cable I had, and it showed up as a new network on my PC, with 1GBs speed .
    Just done speed test and Im delighted!!!

    So it was the cable that caused it.
    Nicely done.

    Nice speeds ...... hugely jealous! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Well, what a day. The installer came and I mentioned that I would like to have it in the middle room and to bring it in through the attic. He said up until a few days ago they weren't allowed to install through the attic but the rules have just changed! My lucky day. I also happened to know the guy aswell which didnt hurt.
    He brought it over from the pole to the gable, bored a hole and I went up in the attic and fed it through.
    After all was fed down he done some tests to test the signal, he said anything under 18 to 12 is good. I'm not sure what measurement they use. As long as the reading is near enough to the DP outsides reading.
    Horrible working conditions here today to be up on a pole. It took him over four hours altogether, there was a lot of work involved.
    Its a great relief to have it done now and I will look forward to trying it out over the weekend.


    Some Pics attached
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Good news about the attics. Enjoy the connection.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Pangea wrote: »
    After all was fed down he done some tests to test the signal, he said anything under 18 to 12 is good. I'm not sure what measurement they use.

    Signal loss, I'm guessing - measured in dB. I would have thought that -15dB is the best you could hope to see on a PON network, but -18dB would be acceptable. And yes, there should be no significant loss between the DP and the ONT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Signal loss, I'm guessing - measured in dB. I would have thought that -15dB is the best you could hope to see on a PON network, but -18dB would be acceptable. And yes, there should be no significant loss between the DP and the ONT.

    Tks, It was 13 at the DP and it was 14 when he finished with the ONT inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,050 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    rgfinn wrote: »
    It looks like the fibre comes to a small white box, which then sends the signal via Ethernet to a powered white box, which then sends it to the F2000 modem?

    I guess they'll run the fibre to the access box on the outside of the house, where they'll put the first little (unpowered) white box. From there I guess they'll use existing the Cat5e cable to get to my comms cabinet where the powered white box would go. Does that sound correct?

    Recent post I made on this - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=104389082#post104389082. With one change, from a post below yours, they're now allowing attic installs again it appears.

    Basically they won't be using your existing copper line or Ethernet cable to the comms cabinet. Fibre all the way from the pole, via the ETU (outside access box), from there to the ODP - then to the ONT beside it (both located at a point in the house), the supplied router is then connected to the ONT via Ethernet cable.

    n2yixd.jpg

    ONT (Optical Network Terminal)
    ODP (Optical Distribution Point)

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    rgfinn wrote: »
    I hoped not to change to VOIP for the phone, so do you know if they need my full Cat5e cable to the comms room, or just some wires from it? Hopefully the latter so that i can keep my current phone setup.

    I believe there's no requirement to change over to VOIP, or VOBB (voice over broadband) as eir are now calling their service. The existing copper line to the master phone socket should remain untouched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,050 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    The Cush wrote: »
    For the last week or so lads from Networx Cable And Civils (wearing KN hi-viz vests :D) running ducting from the exchange to the poles at the start of the rural fibre routes.

    Further update from my area (Murroe Limerick), just over a week ago they started rolling out fibre on the poles, one route completed, working on a second route this past week. For the past two days a crew has been installing the splice boxes on the first route. Scheduled live date is Autumn 2017.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Re Hivis they've probably been bought out like the majority of small contractors. KNIS/KNN is turning into a bit or a behemoth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    Bet you some installers will accept attic installs and others will refuse. Wait for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭digiman


    I've noticed their has been some things written on the Eir manholes in my estate in a non NBP area. It's an estate that is about a year old but has no copper cables in it yet. They have written WP9, WP7 and AGG on 3 different manhole covers which are all close to each other. Does anyone know what this refers to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    The router I got is Dual band both 2.4GHZ and 5 GHZ. Which is best to use? Both options show up on my phone. I have been using 2.4 since last night and it runs smoothly, getting 47mbps downland speeds on wifi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭BarryM


    Would it be a deviation of this thread if those who are lucky enough to have FTTx would give their location and an indication of the price of the contract they have?

    I notice that for places where the cable has been strung, such as Baltimore in West Cork, the date of actual connection is now out to Spring '18. At this rate I wonder will the national broadband plan ever be implemented?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭turbbo


    BarryM wrote: »
    Would it be a deviation of this thread if those who are lucky enough to have FTTx would give their location and an indication of the price of the contract they have?

    I notice that for places where the cable has been strung, such as Baltimore in West Cork, the date of actual connection is now out to Spring '18. At this rate I wonder will the national broadband plan ever be implemented?

    The 300k isn't due to be finished until eoy 2018 and that is massively ambitious. Don't expect NBP till at least 2020 I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,050 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    digiman wrote: »
    I've noticed their has been some things written on the Eir manholes in my estate in a non NBP area. It's an estate that is about a year old but has no copper cables in it yet. They have written WP9, WP7 and AGG on 3 different manhole covers which are all close to each other. Does anyone know what this refers to?

    Mentioned here before "WP" refers to Work Point. I see the marking on poles around our area recently for FTTH rollout, a splice box location I assume. "Agg" would normally be an abbreviation for aggregation, so maybe an aggregation point where a main copper/fibre cable splits off to different ducts/splitters/junction boxes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Pangea wrote: »
    The router I got is Dual band both 2.4GHZ and 5 GHZ. Which is best to use? Both options show up on my phone. I have been using 2.4 since last night and it runs smoothly, getting 47mbps downland speeds on wifi.

    rough rule of thumb is higher frequencies carry more info but not as far.

    The choice is always there to swap between them to go for 5ghz on everything you can and drop down to 2.4 if you notice poor signal through walls etc.

    but being in the same room 5ghz every day of the week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Skyte


    Long time lurker finally have something to add.

    My area was announced as part of the rural 300k. Start of this month, eir rep arrives saying FTTH is available and she is taking orders. Says its going live on the 9th so I book an appointment for the 11th. Comes round, no engineer, I phone up and they say it was a booking error so I get them to confirm next week the 18th and they guarantee.

    Engineer arrives and says he cant use the underground duct as its too small to fit a rod up. I prepared for this and said to do an overhead install to one of my rooms. I'll add some pictures of the installation.

    http://imgur.com/DboIPff
    The van is where my splicebox is and he had to run the cable from the box down two poles and over to my house.

    http://imgur.com/cUek8dG
    Splicebox

    http://imgur.com/v9slKh3
    http://imgur.com/I2RBNCy

    http://imgur.com/oi8puof
    Gable end
    http://imgur.com/9TVpw8b
    Cable running down my gable end
    http://imgur.com/Xs1BE4N
    Insertion point

    http://imgur.com/lP1jxea

    http://imgur.com/EVDOVMa
    I went with the 150Mbps option.

    Took about 2 hours for the install, engineer did I tidy job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Skyte


    I saw a similar guy mention it earlier but when I initially did the speed test on ethernet I was only getting around 95Mbps, but on WiFi I was getting 150Mbps which I could not explain. I switched out the ethernet cable and im now pulling the full 150Mbps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Skyte wrote: »
    I saw a similar guy mention it earlier but when I initially did the speed test on ethernet I was only getting around 95Mbps, but on WiFi I was getting 150Mbps which I could not explain. I switched out the ethernet cable and im now pulling the full 150Mbps.

    Do you know what was wrong with the cable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    rough rule of thumb is higher frequencies carry more info but not as far.

    The choice is always there to swap between them to go for 5ghz on everything you can and drop down to 2.4 if you notice poor signal through walls etc.

    but being in the same room 5ghz every day of the week

    Thanks I tried the 5GHZ on my phone and now I'm getting 144mbs, 100 more than on 2.4 :)
    Do you know what was wrong with the cable?

    In my case I realised the cable was a cat5 which is only capable of 100.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Skyte


    Yeah the first cable was old enough and probably was cat5, the one I swapped it out with was newer off amazon and most likely cat6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    cat 5 can handle gigabit so it was probably a bad cable


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cat 5 can handle gigabit so it was probably a bad cable
    You'll be amazed at just how many people abuse those cables and still expect them to perform, sharp bends, for example, really destroy their high frequency characteristics and can stop then operating at even 100Mbs. I recently found a patch lead jammed into some steel trunking in line with a 3 phase feed to a motor, just moving the cable a few centimetres to the side was all it needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Splice boxes are being installed on the poles outside my house in the Inch St. Lawernce Limerick area. Not all splice boxes are the same as some of them serve as Junctions and booster boxes. I would have to appreciate the tedious work involved in the installation. It can take them more than hour in some cases to install a single box. They are over 90 minutes installing a booster box just down from house. But at least they took a tea break in that time. It could be next month before our line is live. It has to be passed by a supervisor whenever he comes around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 637 ✭✭✭glen123


    I have a question, please, if somebody could help.
    I've no landline or any other broadband at the moment. Fiber has become available in our area recently (saw engineers installing black boxes on the poles along the road and one of the neighbours connected to fiber 2 days ago).

    If I want to connect too, do I have to go with Eir since it's brand new connection or can I go to other companies like Vodafone or Digiweb and they will organise it themselves?

    Thanks


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