ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

murpho999 wrote: »

Derail the thread from spouting lock up or deport all muslims.

By the way, it's not up to you to decide if I can post here or not so I'll carry on discussing the issues.

Just because you disagree with an argument does not mean the person should not speak.

Given that radicalized Islamic Extremists are currently the predominant perpetrators of attacks upon European Civilians,then it cannot be surprising if the majority of those detained or deported as a result,turn out to be Muslim.

Europe's domestic security services,remain very much in catch-up mode as they attempt to counter the very real threat,not from a standing army,or physical entity,but from a belief structure which has been hijacked by what amount to Satanists.

Very few Irish (or U.K) Political Administrations ever expected to become the target of Islamic zealots,but we now bask in the knowledge that,at best,we need to prepare,by rapidly collecting specific data upon Islamic immigrants into the country,and at worst,by restricting the ability of Radical elements already here to carry out the tasks demanded by their Religious leadership.

If,for example,the Jesuits,The Mormons,or The Moonies decide to embark upon a Jihad against unbelievers,then I'm afraid they'll have to be subject to closer inspection too,but thus far,in Europe,it is Islamic Extremists who are carrying out the attacks,so simple logic would appear to point to the most promising group to then tackle ?

end of the road wrote: »

i would have the same attitude yes. a policeman's job is to protect the public.

So a policeman saves your family from death and you would just nonchalantly say "don't thank him dear, IT'S HIS JOB AND HE IS GETTING PAID"

What a joke........

mahamageehad wrote: »

So far in 2017 an estimated 865 terrorist attacks have resulted in about 5,220 fatalities. 2016 came in at a total of about 1,441 attacks with 14,265 fatalities.

Breaking that down to just look at Islamic State attacks, we can see a serious decrease in the volume of attacks, the frequency, and the average people killed in each attack.

2016: 1,441 attacks; 14,356 killed; 9.96 killed in each attack (average); 3.95 attacks a day (average)
2017: 320 attacks; 2,185 killed; 6.82 killed in each attack (average); 1.4 attacks a day (average)

Data: 2016, 2017

Now, I know that that is of little comfort to anyone impacted by attacks this year, but it is good to note that these attacks are trending down. Now, I make no claims on how accurate the data is (it pulls from Wikipedia), and the numbers above focus only on IS and not other terrorist groups like Boko Haram.

Its not necessarily trending down, permanently at least. If you look at other years some can be considerably lower than others and then spike again randomly in other following years

Isis terrorist attacks seem extremely poorly planned and executed. For instance this attack was originally supposed to be a bomb attack , but they blew up their resourcses accidentally at the residential house in Alancar. And Im surprised that a truck barreling down a narrow busy pedestrian street only killed 13. And then the second attack at the tourist resort was completely botched and all 4 terrorist were killed by police.

A well executed original plan would have killed hundreds of people..I guess we are actually really lucky only 14 died.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Who's us?

Why are you vicitimising yourself and everybody else?

0.000006% of Europeans have lost their lives in these types pf incidents in the past year. Every loss of life is a tragedy, but in the scheme of things, Barcelona-like attacks do not represent a substantial or a realistic threat to any European going about their daily life.

You're more likely to be killed whilst not paying attention crossing the road, because you were worrying about ISIS, than to be killed by ISIS.

That's not particularly funny, considering there are dead and injured kids on the streets of Barcelona. A time and a place and all that....

Mutant z wrote: »

Islam is the largest faith behind Christianity in this country with a population of about 60,000 and growing which is probably an underestimate being official census figures, you can see the kind of trouble we will be heading in the future, it doesnt bode well.

Ok so now we're getting somewhere.

Ireland's population is now 4.7m according to 2016 census.

Census also states there are 63,000 muslims living here. that equates to 1.34% of the population. It's a tiny number.

So I don't see what trouble we are heading for.

You also do not state how many we have taken in as many of the 63k would have been living here peacefully for years and you also forget that many of these muslims would be non immigrant Irish people who have converted.

Are you implying that all of these 63k muslims are terrorists?

Also, the largest group behind Christianity and the fastest increasing is those of no religion.

murpho999 wrote: »

Ok so now we're getting somewhere.

Ireland's population is now 4.7m according to 2016 census.

Census also states there are 63,000 muslims living here. that equates to 1.34% of the population. It's a tiny number.

So I don't see what trouble we are heading for.

You also do not state how many we have taken in as many of the 63k would have been living here peacefully for years and you also forget that many of these muslims would be non immigrant Irish people who have converted.

Are you implying that all of these 63k muslims are terrorists?

Also, the largest group behind Christianity and the fastest increasing is those of no religion.

what's the percentage across other eu countries

tomofson wrote: »

Spain,Finland and Germany all hit in the last 24 hours

What happened in germany?