ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

Should we not just make a Muslim Terror super thread? Its a regular occurence and the new normal everyday life now. Not much to discuss. Too many want to do nothing for anything to change.

end of the road wrote: »

it's his job. not well done for doing what he is paid for, it's what he is obligated to, expected to, and paid to do.

Wouldn't expect anything but a condescending response from you eotr.. remind me not to invite you to my next house party ....

I would describe the Spanish cop and cops that were involved as heroes btw.

murpho999 wrote: »

No, it was more of joke to be honest.

If it's ok to be anti-Islam then why can't somebody be anti-Catholic Church?

Clue is in the thread title lad. Dya see Catholic Church mentioned?

Mutant z wrote: »

However bad the RCC is, islamists are far worse, the RCC has no real power anymore and isnt a threat to our security as these scumbags are, they are a pack of savages who are hellbent on destroying our way of life.

The "isamists" have no real power either, less in Europe than the RCC (which has its own state) and will not destroy our way of life.

Mutant z wrote: »

The likes of Angela Merkel want to inflict more of this on us, how deranged can you get, we need to close our borders and start deporting these lunatics from our shores.

Of course yesterday is all Angela Merkel's fault.

So how do you deport these people?

How do you determine who is a lunatic and who isn't?

pjohnson wrote: »

So I guess that means "no you dont see the Catholic Church mentioned" you just seem an expert at dodging questions. At least EoTR will keep ya company

Yes, I can read thanks, ISIS is in the title. So what?

You haven't answered any questions put to you.

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Attacks actually have been planned, directed and executed on the orders of the IS leadership in Syria.

As you have said though, most are not.

Also AQ are still players, most recently combining with IS remnants in Libya.

ISIS is in big trouble militarily and is losing its foothold.

Their command structure is weak.

The attacks now are random and done by individuals who may even declare loyalty to ISIS but in reality they have no link with them.

weldoninhio wrote: »

In fairness, the Imam of the mosque in Blanchardstown tried to do this. One of his followers got the absolute tar beaten out of him for handing out leaflets about it in the Clonskeagh mosque, who's head is Mr Halawa Snr. Who's son our govt and amnesty international want "home", guilty or not.

A totally valid issue,which I keep returning to in many posts relating to Islamic related violence.
This continuing campaign of Religiously inspired murderous attacks are being perpetrated by followers of radical Islam,relying FULLY on the tenets of Islam to prepare for,carry out,and then excuse acts of extreme savagery.

Currently,we in Ireland now enjoy a period where we can actively move to Support the moderate Muslim leadership,such as Sheikh Al Quadri in Blanchardstown,who is most definitely placing himself in some danger by his continuing,outspoken condemnation of Radical Islam.

Mr Al Quadri,actually goes further,in his comments on the level of radicalization being directed at young Muslim men in his congregation,he places himself in direct opposition to the Halawa led Clonskeagh Mosque,and it's affiliated Islamic Centre of Ireland,who are markedly less concerned at this rapidly developing and worsening issue.

Imam Halawa and his Centre,do however enjoy the patronage of a significant element of the Irish Media and Political world,with the resultant lack of interest in actively pursuing the questions which Imam Al Quadri raises.

It is now too late for Europe,and/or The E.U. to embark upon any large scale campaign against Radical Islam,to do so would result immediately in true Jihad,with bloodshed and suffering on an apocalyptic scale.

However,moving to secure our borders,and comprehensively validating the intentions of ALL arriving Muslim's seeking to better themselves in a largely Christian continent,is not,at this point discriminating against anybody,except those who regard us as unbelievers or infidels.

We have options,but these options will not be available for ever,we ourselves have to decide which direction we want to bring the Continent,in which our children and grandchildren will have to live.

end of the road wrote: »

how is it a condescending response. he did what he was paid for. it is what he was obligated and expected to do. that is factually correct.

The Spanish policeman and his mates today shot and killed 5 Islamic terrorists saving many, many innocent lives.

You trivialise this as if it's part of the normal 'bobby/Garda on the beat' part of a policemans normal day. This wasn't normal. I'm sure if they had saved your life as you and your family were nearby you would have the same attitude.

........ or maybe not.

darced wrote: »

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No issue with that whatsoever.

All forms of hate speech should not be tolerated.

It was proposed here, within in this thread to arrest/deport all muslims, immigrants and even 2nd generation immigrants.

I just don't see how that is feasible or correct.

timthumbni wrote: »

The Spanish policeman and his mates today shot and killed 5 Islamic terrorists saving many, many innocent lives.

You trivialise this as if it's part of the normal 'bobby/Garda on the beat' part of a policemans normal day. This wasn't normal. I'm sure if they had saved your life as you and your family were nearby you would have the same attitude.

........ or maybe not.

i would have the same attitude yes. a policeman's job is to protect the public.

murpho999 wrote: »

The Spanish police have done an excellent job on this. Reacted fast in Barcelona yesterday, secured the area. (Agree - timthumbni)

Killing the terrorists last night in Cambrils was the right thing to do as those people were intent on killing innocent people and stopping them has definitely saved lives. (Agree- timthumbni )

The point that some are trying to make is that people should not over react and just pass laws that mean that all immigrants from outside Europe are Islamic Terrorists.

We should also not forget that we are democracies that hold up certain values and those values were attacked yesterday and we should defend them. So we should maintain our laws that guarantee certain rights.

So locking up thousands of innocent people as proposed here by many is not the right answer.

Leaving desperate people fleeing wars to die in the Mediterranean Sea is not the right answer.
Expelling all muslim immigrants is not the answer.

This does not mean we should go soft on terrorists or not secure our borders but we should learn from history that those solutions do not work and only create more enemies and we should find another way.

Who has advocated locking up 1000s of innocent people???

Western Europe (I'm from NI/UK btw) are seen as a very soft touch these days for so called immigrants fleeing from war. The fact they aren't so war scarred that they travel long distances even after reaching safe places in Europe to reach the remote uk and republic suggest very much that a lot are economic migrants. (And that the uk and r. Ireland are very much seen as soft touches amongst soft touches.

We do need to secure our borders. TBH for the uk and you lot on the republic its quite easy actually. We are islands at the edge of Europe. The natural barriers are already there.....