ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

angiogoir · 18-08-2017 02:11PM

Douglas Murray is good on this stuff. We are sleep walking into disaster.

Ulysses Gaze · 18-08-2017 02:14PM

angiogoir wrote: »

Douglas Murray is good on this stuff. We are sleep walking into disaster.

Correction.

We are being sleep-marched into disaster.

topper75 · 18-08-2017 02:14PM

end of the road wrote: »

lol. how do you see that happening exactly? and are we going to have to endure far right nutjobs instead? i'd take left wing vocal progressives over the far right any day.

I hate both of those dangerous screw-ups.

Is that an option anymore?

Ulysses Gaze · 18-08-2017 02:16PM

end of the road wrote: »

lol. how do you see that happening exactly? and are we going to have to endure far right nutjobs instead? i'd take left wing vocal progressives over the far right any day.

How about neither?

A Little Pony · 18-08-2017 02:33PM

angiogoir wrote: »

Douglas Murray is good on this stuff. We are sleep walking into disaster.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06X9CSYRQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503063156&sr=8-1&keywords=Strange+death+of+europe
Check it out.

end of the road · 18-08-2017 02:36PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Massive difference and you know that. The nationalist community were indigenous and 40% of the population.

This shower are about 5%, non indigenous and if they don't like, they can go to a safe country like Syria or Iraq. Win-Win.

there is no difference and you know it. if the 5% are irish born then they have no safe country to go to. 5% or 50% internment is nonsense and must not be tolerated. it will not be tolerated.

ForestFire wrote: »

Anyone who takes a weapon, be it a knife, Vehicle, Bomb, and threatens innocent people and children, should be shot on sight, it doesn't matter what race or religion they may have.[/quote

they are where and when it needs to be done. if the police believe they can arrest them then they will aim for that.

ForestFire wrote: »

Anyone rescued from the Med should be safely return to where they came from. This will shut down the desire to try to make the trip and also the smugglers making the money from this.[/quote

there is no evidence for that unfortunately. they were crossing before the rescue missions began.

ForestFire wrote: »

I cannot enter the US/Australia and many other countries in the world without be passport and visa[/quote

not legally no . you can do it illegally however.

Aristotle145 · 18-08-2017 02:42PM

angiogoir wrote: »

Douglas Murray is good on this stuff. We are sleep walking into disaster.

Probably one of UK most intelligent persons,cant say the same for some leftist politicians or aplogists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBcJ7ENw0YA

Irish Praetorian · 18-08-2017 02:44PM

end of the road wrote: »

and it would then be used as a recruiting tool. you haven't thought this through. this is not a video game, this is real life.

I agree with you on the primary issue of employing torture but just to go off on a small tangent on the 'recruitment tool' thing; just about everything and anything appears to be a recruitment tool for ISIS extremism from somebody being mean to someone on the streets of London to the bombings in the Middle East. If there is one thing that Islamist extremism doesn't appear to be short on in Europe or elsewhere it's recruits. The UK has a Muslim population of about 2.7 million and 23,000 are thought by the police to be in need of surveillance - Ireland has a population of nearly twice that and our military wouldn't be half as big. A piece in the Guardian a few years back noted there were about as a many British Muslims fighting for ISIS than serving in the British Army. If this is where the military spirit of a community is going we should all be very worried.

tonycascarino · 18-08-2017 02:44PM

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How very true

Pac1Man · 18-08-2017 02:45PM

end of the road wrote: »

nope, not do gooders at all as there is no such thing. just people who want the facts before they have an opinion, aka sensible rational people.

And how is that working out; being rational, understanding and accepting?

Mahony0509 · 18-08-2017 02:54PM

If that second attack happened in Ireland we'd be ****ed. Lets use Bray as Cambrils for example.. Van mounts pavement and hits a Garda car before flipping. Fellas get out with axes and 'suicide vests'. What can the Gardai there do to stop them? Pepper spray?? Batons? By the time an armed unit from Dublin or an Army Ranger unit got to Bray there'd be over a hundred killed.

bilston · 18-08-2017 02:56PM

BBC reporting that several people have been stabbed in the Finnish city of Turku and that police have shot someone.

I wouldn't have thought Finland would be high on the list of IS attackers so it could be mental illness or something domestic at play here.

Syphonax · 18-08-2017 03:00PM

Mahony0509 wrote: »

If that second attack happened in Ireland we'd be ****ed. Lets use Bray as Cambrils for example.. Van mounts pavement and hits a Garda car before flipping. Fellas get out with axes and 'suicide vests'. What can the Gardai there do to stop them? Pepper spray?? Batons? By the time an armed unit from Dublin or an Army Ranger unit got to Bray there'd be over a hundred killed.

Bray is pretty rough, if this was a summer Sunday afternoon you can be sure the locals travelling out to Bray for the weekend wouldnt be standing by while a few of these scum went about their business.

ricero · 18-08-2017 03:01PM

Baffles me that europe are still so soft and weak. By now there should be a closed border policy on all countries with isis links.

Also time to put boots on the ground in syria and other isis controlled areas. A european coalition force should be made. Cut the head of the snake off

Somedude9 · 18-08-2017 03:03PM

CNN reporting some nutter has gone on a stabbing spree in Finland

Aristotle145 · 18-08-2017 03:04PM

Mahony0509 wrote: »

If that second attack happened in Ireland we'd be ****ed. Lets use Bray as Cambrils for example.. Van mounts pavement and hits a Garda car before flipping. Fellas get out with axes and 'suicide vests'. What can the Gardai there do to stop them? Pepper spray?? Batons? By the time an armed unit from Dublin or an Army Ranger unit got to Bray there'd be over a hundred killed.

According to western values we have to live with terrorism,be tolerant,even if it happens every week and from from same religion,and with same cause,we have to just accept it,blame right wings next day and how dangerous they are,and protect muslims from them,and then pretend it didnt happen.
Dont go for the source of the problem,islam,no,thats racists and islamophobic,some could be offended,and guess who that is.
What a crazy society we live in.

murpho999 · 18-08-2017 03:09PM

Syphonax wrote: »

Bray is pretty rough, if this was a summer Sunday afternoon you can be sure the locals travelling out to Bray for the weekend wouldnt be standing by while a few of these scum went about their business.

Another mistruth on this thread normally stated by people not from Bray or judge Bray on its visitors who come out on the Dart at the weekend.

Mahony0509 · 18-08-2017 03:11PM

https://twitter.com/newshubireland/status/898547476445237249

BillyBobBS · 18-08-2017 03:12PM

Another attack in Finland now. Jesus we had some Einstein on here this morning claiming these attacks for becoming less frequent. Time to introduce internment IMO.

murpho999 · 18-08-2017 03:14PM

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Another attack in Finland now. Jesus we had some Einstein on here this morning claiming these attacks for becoming less frequent. Time to introduce internment IMO.

Ok, and who do you intern?
How would internment have stopped the Manchester attack that was done by a British person?

Lackey · 18-08-2017 03:15PM

Lackey wrote: »

Breaking news
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/finland-terror-attack-several-people-11010652#ICID=sharebar_twitter

EARLY reports of several attackers

Aristotle145 · 18-08-2017 03:16PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Ok, and who do you intern?
How would internment have stopped the Manchester attack that was done by a British person?

Probably start with you

CB19Kevo · 18-08-2017 03:16PM

Mahony0509 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newshubireland/status/898547476445237249

Guards really need to start rolling out the armed response units,Put one in each county,More in the cities and extra units ready to be deployed on a regional basis.
Worth the millions of investment,Be kept busy with robberies and gangland crime until needed for a terror incident.

FraR · 18-08-2017 03:16PM

Time to close the borders. Enough is enough.

Aristotle145 · 18-08-2017 03:17PM

Lackey wrote: »

EARLY reports of several attackers

Just one attacker according to Finnish news.
He was detained after shot in the leg.
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/shots_and_casualties_reported_in_central_turku/9784909

murpho999 · 18-08-2017 03:18PM

Aristotle145 wrote: »

Probably start with you

So attack the poster when you can't answer a proper question.

Cheerful Spring · 18-08-2017 03:18PM

Theresa May rejects appeal from 9/11 survivors to release suppressed Saudi Arabia terror report. The UK government is protecting terrorists.

Theresa May has rejected an appeal from survivors of the 9/11 attacks to make public a suppressed report into the role of Saudi Arabia in funding Islamist extremism in the UK.

Earlier this summer, the British government announced it had decided not to publish the information, citing national security reasons and the “vast amount of personal information” it contained.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-saudi-arabia-report-911-survivors-reject-terrorism-latest-complicity-a7898816.html

More rubbish protecting countries that sponsor terrorism, that's it.

Aristotle145 · 18-08-2017 03:19PM

murpho999 wrote: »

So attack the poster when you can't answer a proper question.

Take a joke,champ

tonycascarino · 18-08-2017 03:20PM

Aristotle145 wrote: »

Just one attacker according to Finnish news.
He was detained after shot in the leg.
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/shots_and_casualties_reported_in_central_turku/9784909

Let me guess..He was one of those scientists or doctors that Merkel was telling us about...

end of the road · 18-08-2017 03:20PM

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

Help them in their homeland. Its simples

it's not simples at all.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

good intelligence is useless if they can only act when theres 13 dead bodies and over a 100 more in hospital. if they were under surveillance, then they were for a reason and you can be pretty sure, proper and adequate legal support would have seen these man locked up or deported ages ago.

people are obsessed with this word internment and going mental at it, though it does appear to only be left wing minded people that keep bringing it up as if its some for attack on all our freedom by having a tiny tiny minority of potential/probable scum convicted for terrorism offences.

i see very few people actually asking for interment and torture, what i do see however is people demanding laws to ensure that these people are able to be convicted before carrying out these crimes.

internet usage can convict people in other parts of life, why does this not apply to terrorism?

you can be convicted for enticing hatred on towards other races, se*ualitys etc, why does this not apply to terrorism?

even claiming allegiance in any form of life towards a terrorist group, should be made a criminal offence.

and so on and so on. at this stage, sitting on our hands and doing f*ck all apart from saying "no you, you cant be saying or doing that" is no longer acceptable.

Merkel and all her gutless buddies, have failed Europe. again.

1. laws that allow people to be convicted before they cary out criminal acts all ready exist.
2. internet usage does convict terrorists as it is, it's one way the security services are getting their information.
3. such laws do apply to terrorism.
4. claiming allegiance towards a terrorist group is a criminal offence. all though, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and all that.
Merkel and all her non-gutless buddies have not failed europe. we have to preserve our rights civil liberties and freedoms at all costs.

ISIS Terrorist Attack in Barcelona

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