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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #4262
    noc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭noc1980


    Gamebred wrote: »
    The fact he couldnt take out an out of shape Paulie is a worry, 16 oz's or not, Paulie isnt in the same universe as Floyd but it appears some people that said he wouldnt land a punch on a pro or even good amatuer due to them seeing the Van Heeren sparring, now footage of him putting it on Malignaggi and it doesnt count? pmsl

    Oh so he had to put Paulie away to impress you now? lol and you boxing 'purists' wonder why you're rapidly becoming a laughing stock in your wilfully blind analysis of this fight.

    Fact: 90% of you said Paulie was too skilled and experienced for Conor and a novice from any local gym would batter him.

    Goalposts are not just being moved now but the pitch is being dug up.

    Do you not see how ridiculous you sound saying Paulie can be reduced from title challenger to cannon fodder in 5 months while Floyd being out for 2 years is irrelevant? Conor last fought in November of last year btw, shouldn't he be rustier than Malignaggi?


  • #4263
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    In fairness I wouldn't judge anyone's ability to KO someone in 10/8oz gloves based on a few seconds of footage of sparring in 16oz sparring gloves and headgear. It's not comparable to a real fight at all.


    Im judging him on 20 rounds of sparring with an out of shape shot Paulie, is there any confirmation what size gloves they were wearing? again Im not saying it effects his chances on fight night but If I was predicting him ko'ing Mayweather I'd expect him to murder and out of shape Malignaggi (out of shape one).


  • #4264
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    I'd say Floyd hasn't been away from a gym for more than 48 hrs during the last two years. Pwaulie, I'd say, has been on the beer since his retirement in March.
    I felt bad for him here..https://twitter.com/punchoutboxing5/status/838136347974041600


  • #4265
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    He would. In a BOXING match, no one mentioned him being schooled in a spar.

    That is goal post shifting and nothing else.


  • #4266
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    StringerBell wrote: »
    He doesn't have the ability to beat mayweather, therefore he loses. Don't see anything wrong with that statement? Mayweather is too many levels above him.

    It's not like there is any shame in that either like.

    That is a valid opinion that will be proven right or wrong on Aug 26th. But the opinion that any pro boxer would make a show of McGregor has been proven wrong thanks to Pauline.


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  • #4267
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    That is a valid opinion that will be proven right or wrong on Aug 26th. But the opinion that any pro boxer would make a show of McGregor has been proven wrong thanks to Pauline.

    No it hasn't. You've seen a few seconds of edited footage, that's all you know right now.


  • #4268
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Floyd via DQ
    noc1980 wrote: »
    Oh so he had to put Paulie away to impress you now? lol and you boxing 'purists' wonder why you're rapidly becoming a laughing stock in your wilfully blind analysis of this fight.

    Fact: 90% of you said Paulie was too skilled and experienced for Conor and a novice from any local gym would batter him.

    Goalposts are not just being moved now but the pitch is being dug up.

    Do you not see how ridiculous you sound saying Paulie can be reduced from title challenger to cannon fodder in 5 months while Floyd being out for 2 years is irrelevant? Conor last fought in November of last year btw, shouldn't he be rustier than Malignaggi?

    The only people moving the goalposts are the fanboys. McGregor and Paulie didn't have a fight, they sparred. In a fight, Paulie or any decent amatuer would take McGregor apart.

    If you don't know the difference between a sparring session and a fight, then maybe combat sports aren't for you??


  • #4269
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    That is a valid opinion that will be proven right or wrong on Aug 26th. But the opinion that any pro boxer would make a show of McGregor has been proven wrong thanks to Pauline.

    Has anyone claimed that any pro boxer makes a show of Conor?

    Did they not use words decent or capable pro?


  • #4270
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The only people moving the goalposts are the fanboys. McGregor and Paulie didn't have a fight, they sparred. In a fight, Paulie or any decent amatuer would take McGregor apart.

    If you don't know the difference between a sparring session and a fight, then maybe combat sports aren't for you??

    https://twitter.com/PaulMalignaggi/status/888960291530170368


  • #4271
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    No it hasn't. You've seen a few seconds of edited footage, that's all you know right now.

    I know that someone with zero ability should not be able to knock down a recent world champ. The few seconds is enough.
    walshb wrote: »
    Has anyone claimed that any pro boxer makes a show of Conor?

    Did they not use words decent or capable pro?

    Paulie is not decent nor capable all of a sudden eh?


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  • #4272
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/PaulMalignaggi/status/888960291530170368

    Haha only for Paulie's blabbing he could have claimed he goes easy during sparring.


  • #4273
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I know that someone with zero ability should not be able to knock down a recent world champ. The few seconds is enough.



    Paulie is not decent nor capable all of a sudden eh?

    You keep talking about this spar...

    I am speaking about an actual boxing match, and always have been..


  • #4274
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    You keep talking about this spar...

    I am speaking about an actual boxing match, and always have been..

    You have zero evidence for your opinion. Knocking down Paulie, a former world champ who spars as hard as possible (god love him), is evidence of some level of ability.


  • #4275
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    You keep talking about this spar...

    I am speaking about an actual boxing match, and always have been..

    It was a boxing match, hence the referee.

    Sure Paulie himself has said they both went into it as a fight and that they could have charged people in.

    The amount of limbo dancing in here is unreal.

    Boxing was a specialist sport and even a half decent amateur would school Conor in the sweet science, was the general consensus in here since the fight was announced, now it's all: Paulie is an obese retired ex-pro and eh, sparring means little.

    All happy to label McGregor useless on the back of the Van Heerden sparring though.


  • #4276
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Boxing was a specialist sport and even a half decent amateur would school Conor in the sweet science,

    Ya know what? I agree with the bit about it being a highly skilled sport that you can't just compete at with beginner's luck. But what the boxing fans have underestimated is the amount of boxing experience and knowledge McGregor has. They incorrectly lump him in with jiu jitsu / wrestling specialist MMA fighters. Throwing punches is something that he obsesses about and practices every day I am sure.


  • #4277
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    You have zero evidence for your opinion. Knocking down Paulie, a former world champ who spars as hard as possible (god love him), is evidence of some level of ability.

    I never said he had no ability..

    This is going around in circles and you are wanting to find stuff that isn't there..

    I actually praised Conor from the snippets I saw..


  • #4278
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    It was a boxing match, hence the referee.

    Sure Paulie himself has said they both went into it as a fight and that they could have charged people in.

    The amount of limbo dancing in here is unreal.

    Boxing was a specialist sport and even a half decent amateur would school Conor in the sweet science, was the general consensus in here since the fight was announced, now it's all: Paulie is an obese retired ex-pro and eh, sparring means little.

    All happy to label McGregor useless on the back of the Van Heerden sparring though.

    But he also looked decent against Van Heerden off the back off carefully edited footage. It was when Van Heerdeen kicked up a fuss that less favourable footage came to light. Are we to believe that similar, less flattering footage isn't being held back from these sessions?


  • #4279
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    I never said he had no ability..

    This is going around in circles and you are wanting to find stuff that isn't there..

    I actually praised Conor from the snippets I saw..

    Fair enough walshie we won't fall out over it!


  • #4280
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Ya know what? I agree with the bit about it being a highly skilled sport that you can't just compete at with beginner's luck. But what the boxing fans have underestimated is the amount of boxing experience and knowledge McGregor has. They incorrectly lump him in with jiu jitsu / wrestling specialist MMA fighters. Throwing punches is something that he obsesses about and practices every day I am sure.

    Oh that's what I was poking fun at as they were saying boxing was all much too specialist for McGregor. One thing throwing punches in MMA, it's cute, but he could never throw punches the way someone skilled in the sweet science throws punches, be like a golfer trying his hand at baseball...... was the kind of nonsense being spouted.

    Not saying that footage shows him in the league of Mayweather, and there sure was lots to not like about it also, but that it's being sneered at despite him landing on a professional boxer who fought for a title as recently as March.......... just shows what these people are about and they will continue to move the goalposts every inch of the way and no matter what happens Aug 27th, they will not give McGregor an ounce of credit, as to do so will be to admit that they were talking out their arse for the guts of a year.


  • #4281
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Oh that's what I was poking fun at as they were saying it was too specialist for McGregor. One thing throwing punches in MMA, it's cute, but he could never throw box as that was the sweet science, be like a golfer trying his hand baseball...... was the kind of nonsense being spouted.

    Not saying that footage shows him in the league of Mayweather, and there sure was lots to not like about it, but that it's being sneered at despite him landing on a professional boxer who fought for a title as recently as March.......... just shows what these people are about and they will continue to move the goalposts every inch of the way and no matter what happens Aug 27th, they will not give McGregor an ounce of credit, as to do so will be to admit they wer talking out their arse for the guts of a year.

    Mayweather will school Connor. That's all there is to it and all anyone has ever said. Any top pro or amateur boxer in fighting shape would do the same.


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  • #4282
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    normanoffside wrote: »
    Mayweather will school Connor. That's all there is to it and all anyone has ever said. Any top pro or amateur boxer in fighting shape would do the same.

    I will add the footnote for you

    *excluding Paulie Malignaggi


  • #4283
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Oh that's what I was poking fun at as they were saying it was too specialist for McGregor. One thing throwing punches in MMA, it's cute, but he could never throw box as that was the sweet science, be like a golfer trying his hand baseball...... was the kind of nonsense being spouted.

    Not saying that footage shows him in the league of Mayweather, and there sure was lots to not like about it, but that it's being sneered at despite him landing on a professional boxer who fought for a title as recently as March.......... just shows what these people are about and they will continue to move the goalposts every inch of the way and no matter what happens Aug 27th, they will not give McGregor an ounce of credit, as to do so will be to admit they wer talking out their arse for the guts of a year.

    One thing experience has thought me is that it is near impossible for people to admit to talking out of their hole.


  • #4284
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    One thing experience has thought me is that it is near impossible for people to admit to talking out of their hole.

    The voice of experience speaks lads!


  • #4285
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Erik Shin wrote: »
    The voice of experience speaks lads!

    If you haven't learnt that yet then you are the one always talking shoite :pac:


  • #4286
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I will add the footnote for you

    *excluding Paulie Malignaggi

    Incorrect. Read my post again.


  • #4287
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Just looked at a 20 second clip . In the 20 seconds I counted 4 fouls . Not good!


  • #4288
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Paulie is retired, out of shape and recently got embarrassed by Sam Eggington, a domestic level fighter at best. Paulie was once a top pro, but in recent years he was a bad contender at best. Even so, I'd still imagine he got the best of it in sparring...a few seconds of a bad outing doesn't tell the story at all.


  • #4289
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Floyd via DQ
    What a clean and glorious knockdown.

    Note how no shots land clean and the fantastic positioning of the glovrd hand wrapped around the neck dragging Paulies head. Amazing hand speed and accuracy there lads. It's a clear cut case, Conor is infallible.



    https://twitter.com/KYXX_Sports/status/896262097637691392


    P.s. Cortez coming in and waving to call no knock down...


  • #4290
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    I still think they would of been better off not releasing any footage . It was like a white collar bout in my local GAA hall .

    Its not going to be pretty come fight night :(


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  • #4291
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    What a clean and glorious knockdown.

    Note how no shots land clean and the fantastic positioning of the glovrd hand wrapped around the neck dragging Paulies head. Amazing hand speed and accuracy there lads. It's a clear cut case, Conor is infallible.



    https://twitter.com/KYXX_Sports/status/896262097637691392


    P.s. Cortez coming in and waving to call no knock down...

    Never noticed Cortezs hand gestures. Nice spot.


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