Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Floyd don't want no 8-ounce gloves....... total charade to make it look like he was willing to accommodate McGregor.

Boxing in 8oz gloves would be nothing unusual to Floyd, despite what you would like to think.

Makes me think of that bit with Marlo in The Wire

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Floyd don't want no 8-ounce gloves....... total charade to make it look like he was willing to accommodate McGregor.

There's nothing to accommodate, 8 ounce gloves are not permitted in that weigh class, this along with everything about this fight is a money grab by both fighters.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Now pay attention:

Floyd does not want 8-oz for THIS fight! He asked for 154, not McGregor and that is so that he could fight in 10oz.

Imagine if Floyd demanded it be fought at 147lbs (where he has fought mostly since 2005) to allow for 8oz gloves you and many many others would be crying "he's DRAINING him down to 147!!!!"

But no, he deliberately made it 154lbs to ensure the gloves were 10oz? Ok. But why even make the appeal for 8's? I didn't hear a worldwide outcry that it was been fought with 10s instead of 8s. Why even go through the bother of making the application to the NSAC? It makes no sense.

Heres whats happening. Floyd is so confident that he is going to do what he wants with Conor that he gave him whatever weight suited him best, 154lbs, and now he wants him to have the smallest possible gloves in boxing. Why? Because he believes that he is going to school the living fu*k out of him and the 8s will just help him even further. It really is as simple as that.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Well, I believe it was John Kavanagh who said they said they were willing to fight at 147 but Floyd's team said they preferred 154 and so no, I wouldn't be saying what you suggest at all.



On the first night of the tour the issue was raised and McGregor read out a list of demands that Floyd had made....... Floyd then got up and said he'd wear 8oz, and even 4oz...... hence this tweet.


https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/884895895002775553


..........bullshit obviously ... but he kept being asked it and asked it and it's just his way of playing mind games as he knows if he says it and goes as far as the request, then the media will keep asking McGregor about it.... but ultimately it won't happen and he can forever more say that he was open to fighting in lighter gloves. It's a win win charade for him.



So he chose 154 for Conor's sake? lol.



Floyd knows that Commission would never allow a fight at 154 to be contested with 10 ounce gloves...... you're not making any sense.

Haha yeah you would be just fine and dandy with no whinging if Conor had to go into concentration camp mode to boil down to 147 again. Get the **** out of here

There was zero hoopla about the glove size after the pressers. Thats why when he made the tweet about the request for 8's out of nowhere that had everybody asking "why?".
We discussed it earlier either in this thread or the MMA thread that Mayweather once made this request for the Cotto fight at 154, but Cotto rejected it so they couldn't even appeal to the NSAC because both fighters have to agree upon the request for it to be heard. Conor accepted, and the hearing takes place on Wednesday.

I fail to see what single advantage Floyd gets out of "pretending" to want 8oz gloves. And remember, Floyd is a pr*ck with demands before fights. The Maidana glove farce being a perfect example, no Mexican Cleito Reyes gloves because the padding was bare. He got his way.
Ellerbe will present the case to the NSAC that it will make the "event" more exciting with smaller gloves. And with the sheer amount of money this generates the city of Vegas, don't be surprised if it gets accepted.

gilmour wrote: »

There was zero hoopla about the glove size after the pressers. Thats why when he made the tweet about the request for 8's out of nowhere that had everybody asking "why?".

The reason there was zero hoopla is because everyone is aware of the rules! If the fight was at 147 and Mayweather had said what he did on the tour (that he would be willing to fight in 8oz gloves) then for damn sure there would've been immediate hoopla as people would know that it was at least a possibility that they could actually fight in 8oz and so therefore worth making some noise about.

We discussed it earlier either in this thread or the MMA thread that Mayweather once made this request for the Cotto fight at 154, but Cotto rejected it so they couldn't even appeal to the NSAC because both fighters have to agree upon the request for it to be heard.

Not just the Cotto fight but all his fights at 154. In fact he never shuts up about how he would have KO'd De La Hoya but for the gloves.

I fail to see what single advantage Floyd gets out of "pretending" to want 8oz gloves. And remember, Floyd is a pr*ck with demands before fights. The Maidana glove farce being a perfect example, no Mexican Cleito Reyes gloves because the padding was bare. He got his way.

You say you don't see a single advantage but I have already said what it is...... and that is that if he wins (and he most likely will) he knows when any journo that says "Well, McGregor is used to 4-oz and don't you think that maybe it would have been more of a fair fight if he could have worn lighter gloves?" he can just then respond 'Well, yes, but I did my best and put a request to the Nevada Commission on behalf of McGregor, but unfortunately the rules forbade it' ........ and people like you (as you admit yourself) will swallow it and think him on the level.

Ellerbe will present the case to the NSAC that it will make the "event" more exciting with smaller gloves. And with the sheer amount of money this generates the city of Vegas, don't be surprised if it gets accepted.

Look, they are already getting enough heat just for allowing a fighter who has never been in so much as one single professional boxing fight before.... to get into the ring with a 49-0 veteran of the sport...... without adding to that that they also allowed them to make an exemption to the rules on glove size..... which was brought in with fighter safety in mind......... and Mayweather of course knows it.

From the McGregor side, worth going along with all the same I suppose. Nothing to lose..... but lets not think it of anything but mind games.

It keeps people talking about the fight sure if nothing else.

GiftofGab wrote: »

Donald Trump wrote: »

Genuine question. I hear a lot of people talking about McGregor's punches being precise or accurate. They may very well be. Can someone direct me towards the evidence though? I am genuinely asking.

He did have lovely timing to catch that Brazilian lovely but from my memory when I saw a clip of it the Brazilian was "falling in".  I think I remember McGregor knocking out some other fella cleanly but that fella was walking back and turning away, or trying to get away, and was bollixed and had his chin up.

I mean, has he only been punching MMA fellas who are probably more focused on not getting kicked or wrestled to the ground? Or are there any of them that would have movement of combinations. Are there any examples of him winning an exchange of punches where both were trying to simultaneously throw combinations

Will he just be hitting fresh air on the night? My money would be on that

Here you go....McGregor's speed, range and movement.

https://media.giphy.com/media/KDNJ5dEwrBWta/giphy.gif

I actually can't tell for sure if you're taking the piss or serious

(But am assuming that you are taking the piss.......just based on the linked image...not saying there aren't actual examples of him showing those things)

Sweet Science wrote: »

This is hilarious . You can tell by Floyd he knows he's going to beat the crap out of Conor . He is struggling to hide it now

That's the vibe I got....But don't forget that 74 inch reach!

His workouts are cringe with all those toss pot hangers on....

Sweet Science wrote: »

He even has someone to wipe sweat off him between workouts .

It's just one part of why folks have never and will never warm to the guy...

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Not just the Cotto fight but all his fights at 154. In fact he never shuts up about how he would have KO'd De La Hoya but for the gloves.

De La Hoya made him wear the heavyweight 10oz gloves. Make of that what you will. A far superior power puncher putting in a demand like that against a 147lber moving up to 154lbs for the first time.

You say you don't see a single advantage but I have already said what it is...... and that is that if he wins (and he most likely will) he knows when any journo that says "Well, McGregor is used to 4-oz and don't you think that maybe it would have been more of a fair fight if he could have worn lighter gloves?" he can just then respond 'Well, yes, but I did my best and put a request to the Nevada Commission on behalf of McGregor, but unfortunately the rules forbade it' ........ and people like you (as you admit yourself) will swallow it and think him on the level.

You give too much credit to what Floyd thinks after the fight is completed, he doesn't give a single **** afterwards as long as he gets the win and the $$$.

Publicity? Far fetched for a fight that is already doing very well. Having the 8oz's might (though i doubt the casuals really care) gain a few more buys.

Personally i think he wants them because he is a superior fighter with 8's rather than 10s. He wants to chop Conor up. You have your view that its a publicity stunt. Simple as that.

And hey, should they be granted, you have a "Floyds overlooking Conor" canvas to paint on

wonderfullife wrote: »

The only delusion is coming from you.

On the one hand you're saying you're soooooooo confident that Conor will get destroyed and barely lay a glove on Floyd.

Then you start out saying he won't land 20 punches, then you increase it to 50 punches.

If you were so confident in what you were saying, if you were so certain Conor has no shot to land 50 punches, you'd give him the odds he wants.

Instead, you're just spoofing your way through it to try make a point. We get it, you think Conor will get embarrassed.

Highly original opinion...

No delusion here just looking to make a quick buck.

I haven't said anything about Conor landing 20 punches or not landing any as a matter of fact.

Do I think he'll be beaten, yes, easily, yes.

But this is hardly news.

wonderfullife wrote: »

Floyd is 4/6 with the bookies to win by TKO, surely with the confidence you have in how one-sided a beatdown this will be, it's time to remortgage the house, sell the dog and get rich I'm kidding...

The truth is it's easy to bluster on both sides but none of us will be out there putting thousands on Floyd to win or putting thousands on Conor to win. It's a fight anything can happen. All it takes is one phenomenal punch, one catastrophic injury, and things change pretty fast.

There's a guy in America who put $150,000 on Conor to win at 9/2, now maybe he has more money than sense but that to me that is extremely risky. I think Conor will win but he's blown out his ACL twice to varying degrees, he could easily get injured during the fight, ditto Floyd.

If you have €150,000 to throw away like that must be a very wealthy individual.

wonderfullife wrote: »

Floyd is 4/6 with the bookies to win by TKO, surely with the confidence you have in how one-sided a beatdown this will be, it's time to remortgage the house, sell the dog and get rich I'm kidding...

The truth is it's easy to bluster on both sides but none of us will be out there putting thousands on Floyd to win or putting thousands on Conor to win. It's a fight anything can happen. All it takes is one phenomenal punch, one catastrophic injury, and things change pretty fast.

There's a guy in America who put $150,000 on Conor to win at 9/2, now maybe he has more money than sense but that to me that is extremely risky. I think Conor will win but he's blown out his ACL twice to varying degrees, he could easily get injured during the fight, ditto Floyd.

he puts on that much money and your first thought of it being risky is because he might tear a cruciate?