Outlaw Pete wrote: » Floyd don't want no 8-ounce gloves....... total charade to make it look like he was willing to accommodate McGregor.
StringerBell wrote: » Boxing in 8oz gloves would be nothing unusual to Floyd, despite what you would like to think.
RoryMac wrote: » There's nothing to accommodate, 8 ounce gloves are not permitted in that weigh class, this along with everything about this fight is a money grab by both fighters.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Now pay attention: Floyd does not want 8-oz for THIS fight! He asked for 154, not McGregor and that is so that he could fight in 10oz.
gilmour wrote: » Imagine if Floyd demanded it be fought at 147lbs (where he has fought mostly since 2005) to allow for 8oz gloves you and many many others would be crying "he's DRAINING him down to 147!!!!"
But no, he deliberately made it 154lbs to ensure the gloves were 10oz? Ok. But why even make the appeal for 8's? I didn't hear a worldwide outcry that it was been fought with 10s instead of 8s. Why even go through the bother of making the application to the NSAC? It makes no sense.
Heres whats happening. Floyd is so confident that he is going to do what he wants with Conor that he gave him whatever weight suited him best, 154lbs....
....and now he wants him to have the smallest possible gloves in boxing.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Well, I believe it was John Kavanagh who said they said they were willing to fight at 147 but Floyd's team said they preferred 154 and so no, I wouldn't be saying what you suggest at all. On the first night of the tour the issue was raised and McGregor read out a list of demands that Floyd had made....... Floyd then got up and said he'd wear 8oz, and even 4oz...... hence this tweet.https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/884895895002775553 ..........bullshit obviously ... but he kept being asked it and asked it and it's just his way of playing mind games as he knows if he says it and goes as far as the request, then the media will keep asking McGregor about it.... but ultimately it won't happen and he can forever more say that he was open to fighting in lighter gloves. It's a win win charade for him. So he chose 154 for Conor's sake? lol. Floyd knows that Commission would never allow a fight at 154 to be contested with 10 ounce gloves...... you're not making any sense.
StringerBell wrote: » Both men doing it of course, probably slightly concerned at the less the expected interest so far
StringerBell wrote: » Boxing in 8oz gloves would be nothing unusual to Floyd, despite what you would like to think. Makes me think of that bit with Marlo in The Wire
gilmour wrote: » There was zero hoopla about the glove size after the pressers. Thats why when he made the tweet about the request for 8's out of nowhere that had everybody asking "why?".
We discussed it earlier either in this thread or the MMA thread that Mayweather once made this request for the Cotto fight at 154, but Cotto rejected it so they couldn't even appeal to the NSAC because both fighters have to agree upon the request for it to be heard.
I fail to see what single advantage Floyd gets out of "pretending" to want 8oz gloves. And remember, Floyd is a pr*ck with demands before fights. The Maidana glove farce being a perfect example, no Mexican Cleito Reyes gloves because the padding was bare. He got his way.
Ellerbe will present the case to the NSAC that it will make the "event" more exciting with smaller gloves. And with the sheer amount of money this generates the city of Vegas, don't be surprised if it gets accepted.
ebbsy wrote: » Donald Trump wrote: » Genuine question. I hear a lot of people talking about McGregor's punches being precise or accurate. They may very well be. Can someone direct me towards the evidence though? I am genuinely asking. He did have lovely timing to catch that Brazilian lovely but from my memory when I saw a clip of it the Brazilian was "falling in". I think I remember McGregor knocking out some other fella cleanly but that fella was walking back and turning away, or trying to get away, and was bollixed and had his chin up. I mean, has he only been punching MMA fellas who are probably more focused on not getting kicked or wrestled to the ground? Or are there any of them that would have movement of combinations. Are there any examples of him winning an exchange of punches where both were trying to simultaneously throw combinations Will he just be hitting fresh air on the night? My money would be on that How is that North Korea thing goin ?
Donald Trump wrote: » Genuine question. I hear a lot of people talking about McGregor's punches being precise or accurate. They may very well be. Can someone direct me towards the evidence though? I am genuinely asking. He did have lovely timing to catch that Brazilian lovely but from my memory when I saw a clip of it the Brazilian was "falling in". I think I remember McGregor knocking out some other fella cleanly but that fella was walking back and turning away, or trying to get away, and was bollixed and had his chin up. I mean, has he only been punching MMA fellas who are probably more focused on not getting kicked or wrestled to the ground? Or are there any of them that would have movement of combinations. Are there any examples of him winning an exchange of punches where both were trying to simultaneously throw combinations Will he just be hitting fresh air on the night? My money would be on that
GiftofGab wrote: » Donald Trump wrote: » Genuine question. I hear a lot of people talking about McGregor's punches being precise or accurate. They may very well be. Can someone direct me towards the evidence though? I am genuinely asking. He did have lovely timing to catch that Brazilian lovely but from my memory when I saw a clip of it the Brazilian was "falling in". I think I remember McGregor knocking out some other fella cleanly but that fella was walking back and turning away, or trying to get away, and was bollixed and had his chin up. I mean, has he only been punching MMA fellas who are probably more focused on not getting kicked or wrestled to the ground? Or are there any of them that would have movement of combinations. Are there any examples of him winning an exchange of punches where both were trying to simultaneously throw combinations Will he just be hitting fresh air on the night? My money would be on that Here you go....McGregor's speed, range and movement.https://media.giphy.com/media/KDNJ5dEwrBWta/giphy.gif
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » No I was looking for a straight up bet, admittedly not with you more the Mcgregor fans who are adamant that their man can and will win, if I was looking for odds I'd simply lay the market on betfair or create one.
Sweet Science wrote: » This is hilarious . You can tell by Floyd he knows he's going to beat the crap out of Conor . He is struggling to hide it now
Sweet Science wrote: » He even has someone to wipe sweat off him between workouts .
Mellor wrote: » An straight evens bet? Lol. Pull the other one. The bookies have set the line at 20. You can't just slide it out to 50 and expect to get still get money on at evens. If went to betfair, you'd have to lay it at fairly short odds.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Not just the Cotto fight but all his fights at 154. In fact he never shuts up about how he would have KO'd De La Hoya but for the gloves.
You say you don't see a single advantage but I have already said what it is...... and that is that if he wins (and he most likely will) he knows when any journo that says "Well, McGregor is used to 4-oz and don't you think that maybe it would have been more of a fair fight if he could have worn lighter gloves?" he can just then respond 'Well, yes, but I did my best and put a request to the Nevada Commission on behalf of McGregor, but unfortunately the rules forbade it' ........ and people like you (as you admit yourself) will swallow it and think him on the level.
Eyes Down Field wrote: » McGregor going on about his upbringing, like Crumlin is the equivalent of down town Compton, is laughable. He is peddling lies about Dublin to add to the narrative of a tough upbringing. American's have no idea that he is full of shyt and they eat it up.
Dublin is best understood by exploring its many divisions, its unending physical and mental boundaries. The city, and its current champion, McGregor, are defined by those limits. It's a clannish, parochial place. Crossing the wrong street has traditionally been reason enough for an ass-whipping. Men have had to drop dates off at bus stops instead of walking them all the way home. About 60 boxing clubs still dot the city, training kids to defend themselves and their block, each gym a world unto itself.
Other divisions in the city revolve around class, and while Conor's success allows him safe passage across gangland boundaries, it can't overcome his Dublin 12 roots.
McGregor loves tweaking Dublin's two-tiered society; this spring, he bought a boat and parked it in a snooty marina in a snooty coastal town, near where U2's Bono and The Edge live. He named it The 188, which is the amount of the weekly welfare payments he got until he started making money in the cage. Proper Dublin recoils from his type: the Crumlin hood rat, shaped by the limits that define him, hem him in, make him feel caged.
Sitting in a chair, Conor gets a little nervous talking so much about gangland Dublin. His MMA gym is just outside the old neighborhood, and even though his family moved to the suburbs when he was about 17, he finds himself called back to these familiar streets. "I still am in Crumlin every day," he says. "There's still s---. Now there's cartels."
That world was always there for Conor, yet he never became the most charismatic and terrifying debt collector in the streets of Dublin. He and his friends knew they didn't want the paranoia or prison stints or early death that surely follows the selling of cocaine. That line took courage to hold, but McGregor held it, never dealing, according to a senior police officer who investigates organized crime and requested anonymity. The criminals agree, according to a former dealer named Johno Frazer, "the invincible" Micky's younger brother. He says Conor never dealt. He should know. He and Conor once got into a fight over a girl. Johno won.
His son is in town, a little baby, Conor Jr., who is starting to show bits of personality. The boy has already flown on two private jets. Conor worries his son will grow up a citizen of that other Ireland, the one of rock star ocean views and fancy private schools and heated debates about an economic policy editorial in The Irish Times. So as soon as the boy is old enough, he'll start training in mixed martial arts -- "in combat," Conor says -- to teach him how to fight and suffer and triumph. He must know pain to fashion the life he wants. Conor and a friend tell more stories about shotgun blasts and fistfights with drug dealers, and then Conor stops and makes eye contact with me.
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » Why would I look for fair when I have all these delusional McGregor fans in here? Surely one of them is stupid enough to put his money where his mouth is!
wonderfullife wrote: » The only delusion is coming from you. On the one hand you're saying you're soooooooo confident that Conor will get destroyed and barely lay a glove on Floyd. Then you start out saying he won't land 20 punches, then you increase it to 50 punches. If you were so confident in what you were saying, if you were so certain Conor has no shot to land 50 punches, you'd give him the odds he wants. Instead, you're just spoofing your way through it to try make a point. We get it, you think Conor will get embarrassed. Highly original opinion...
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » No delusion here just looking to make a quick buck. I haven't said anything about Conor landing 20 punches or not landing any as a matter of fact. Do I think he'll be beaten, yes, easily, yes. But this is hardly news.
wonderfullife wrote: » Floyd is 4/6 with the bookies to win by TKO, surely with the confidence you have in how one-sided a beatdown this will be, it's time to remortgage the house, sell the dog and get rich I'm kidding... The truth is it's easy to bluster on both sides but none of us will be out there putting thousands on Floyd to win or putting thousands on Conor to win. It's a fight anything can happen. All it takes is one phenomenal punch, one catastrophic injury, and things change pretty fast. There's a guy in America who put $150,000 on Conor to win at 9/2, now maybe he has more money than sense but that to me that is extremely risky. I think Conor will win but he's blown out his ACL twice to varying degrees, he could easily get injured during the fight, ditto Floyd.
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » If you have €150,000 to throw away like that must be a very wealthy individual.
akelly02 wrote: » he puts on that much money and your first thought of it being risky is because he might tear a cruciate?
