Scumbags leave Kerry dunes in a heap

To be fair while they shouldn't have left a mess, that Facebook page says there was 300kg of waste left, so either something doesn't add up or those lads are shîtting tungsten.

Was anyone expecting it to be worse? Doesn't look that bad to me, I was expecting festival style where you can't see the ground, it's just a sea of empty cans. Now I don't agree with how they left the place, they could have at least had put the rubbish into bin bags before they left but I suppose it was probably pissing rain and they were probably skagging to bits so they probably just said **** it and legged it. There's no excuse really for leaving the mess but I do think that it's being blown out of proportion just a bit.

Vincent Hyland operates nature walks in the area and said : " They wouldn’t have been aware of it but they were also trampling onto loads of tiny toads,” he said.

Needs an interpretive centre right here, there is a road down to it and all


http://bit.ly/2fuZ3kI

God damn it ..... how does one find out about these illegal raves ???

Dramatik wrote: »

Was anyone expecting it to be worse? Doesn't look that bad to me, I was expecting festival style where you can't see the ground, it's just a sea of empty cans. Now I don't agree with how they left the place, they could have at least had put the rubbish into bin bags before they left but I suppose it was probably pissing rain and they were probably skagging to bits so they probably just said **** it and legged it. There's no excuse really for leaving the mess but I do think that it's being blown out of proportion just a bit.

I suppose you have no problem with people throwing their rubbish out their car window either :rolleyes: If you create a mess you clear it up.

I have absolutely no problem with raves / outdoor drinking etc as long as no other laws are broken, so I don't agree with shutting these things down pre-emptively - HOWEVER, anyone found to have been involved in one which left any sort of destructive trail behind, apart from perhaps some bald grass patches, should have the absolute f*cking book thrown at them.

I'm absolutely positive that there's a way to do these things without banning them outright - just let any scumbags considering attendance know in advance that they'll be in the firing line for serious criminal consequences if vandalism / littering occurs.

Deleted User wrote: »

South Kerry has seen raves that would knock those kids on their arses. There was a time I'd have been "in"...but these days I don't even get the "ah you missed it, what a weekend"...

Though generally the hippies were decent at clearing up. Many of them would have lived around South Kerry and wouldn't want the whole "s***ting on your own doorstep" issue, not exactly a huge community.

There was a time when you'd have small scale raves on Killiney hill in the early hours of Sunday mornings, during this time of year when it would get bright early enough to session before any "responsible adults" (IE, non-ravers who might take offence) were up and about, but Killiney hill is very well covered by public bins due to its widespread use as a dog park, so to my recollection there was never a problem with littering. Think the area has a few public toilets dotted around as well, although these may be gone by now like many others.

Interestingly enough, there's another spot not too far away known as White Rock Beach, and this area used to attract the troublesome kind of raves mentioned in the OP - littering, sh!teing, etc. It's also in much closer proximity to people's houses than the top of Killiney Hill (the raves used to happen up near the big Obelisk, which is pretty far from any houses at all) so they used to piss off local residents a fair bit - and the interesting thing for me is that those who would tend to hang out at the hill rave would *know*, by word of mouth, that the White Rock ones were full of scumbags. So it was almost a sort of self-segregated situation where the hill ravers would explicitly avoid the dodgy one because it tended to have quite an unpleasant edge to it, from what I heard. You know that feeling when you can sense aggro lurking just below the surface and it's a sort of "serious sh!t could go down at any second without warning, I'd rather not be here at all" feeling. Apparently there used to be needles and other such crap left behind.

So I guess as with a lot of things, it's not so much the concept as the type of crowd involved.

What kind of f*cking eejits do you have to be to leave a list of the party goers names there? That's like dumping black sacks of rubbish in the woods with your name and address on it!!

We all did stuff like that as teens, but f*ck sake just bring some black sacks with you and take your sh*t home with you. Little scrotes.

Teenage campers trash area of natural beauty and source of income for community - August Weekend 2017

How much is this income ?

Paying tax on it we hope

wexandproud wrote: »

no we didn't

You never camped out with your friends? Or even went knacker drinking?

PandaPoo wrote: »

You never camped out with your friends? Or even went knacker drinking?

yes , and cleaned up after ourselves and no never went knacker dinking

PandaPoo wrote: »

That's what I meant...we all did stuff like that (camping with friends) but then went on to say take bin bags and clean up after yourself.

though you were saying we all went out and left a mess behind . my mistake

gramar wrote: »

Did the guards in Caherciveen have no knowledge of this until it was over?

Big festival in Caherciveen so they didnt have the resources.

spockety wrote: »

So apparently there was an unofficial 3 day rave organised by teenagers from Cork down at the dunes in Derrynane, and they left the place in a right state:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/human-waste-and-condoms-left-after-derrynane-sand-dunes-party-1.3181377?utm_content=sf-man


The locals have set up a Facebook page to highlight this:

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spockety wrote: »

The locals

One local

Local resident Ross Duffy, a project manager with the International Red Cross,

The Red Cross charity raised nearly $500 million after the disaster, more than any other nonprofit, but an ambitious plan to build housing resulted in just six permanent homes



The American Red Cross spent a quarter of the money people donated after the 2010 Haiti earthquake — or almost $125 million — on its own internal expenses, far more than the charity previously had disclosed, according to a report released Thursday by Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/16/482020436/senators-report-finds-fundamental-concerns-about-red-cross-finances

I wouldn't believe his radio


doesn't look so bad :

Academic wrote: »

According to the article, "There is signage throughout the park prohibiting camping and warning that littering is illegal."

Does the signage prohibiting camping carry the weight of law? I don't know, but I would like to.