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Rolex Daytona or similar?

  • 04-08-2017 06:18AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭


    I have been searching for a premium watch for a while now and find rolex watches quite elegant but ofcourse pricey!
    I like this particular model:

    https://m.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona/m116500ln-0001.html

    Any thoughts on this watch? I have seen this model getting sold for 4000e on other website and wonder if they are replica.

    My budget is max 2800e. Am I being too naive to think about Rolex watch given my budget?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,524 ✭✭✭Homer


    You won't get a stainless steel sports model for that price. The daytona is currently around the €10k mark second hand! The most basic steel sports submariner would be in the region of €5k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Anjobe


    RRP for that watch is £9100, I don't think there is generally much discount to had on Rolex, and second hand ones can sell for higher than new (from reliable, reputable sellers at least) because of the extent to which demand outstrips supply.

    So, unfortunately, I think a Daytona will be well out of reach of a €2800 budget. How about an Omega Speedmaster Pro? Even paying top dollar on somewhere like Watchfinder you could find one in budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,642 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    For 2800 you might get an old airking or precision.

    For 3.5-4K in Ireland you might get a date just (no papers usually)

    http://www.adverts.ie/13392071

    http://www.adverts.ie/10563407

    Lots of fake out there that have boxes and papers with them. Be careful with your cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,642 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Anjobe wrote: »
    RRP for that watch is £9100, I don't think there is generally much discount to had on Rolex, and second hand ones can sell for higher than new (from reliable, reputable sellers at least) because of the extent to which demand outstrips supply.

    So, unfortunately, I think a Daytona will be well out of reach of a €2800 budget. How about an Omega Speedmaster Pro? Even paying top dollar on somewhere like Watchfinder you could find one in budget.

    Agree with the above.

    http://www.adverts.ie/12677967

    No papers but I think it's legit.

    http://www.adverts.ie/13187658

    http://www.adverts.ie/11548275


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Homer wrote: »
    You won't get a stainless steel sports model for that price. The daytona is currently around the €10k mark second hand! The most basic steel sports submariner would be in the region of €5k

    You'd be lucky to get a ceramic Daytona for less than 13k euro. Often hear stories on watch forums of people being told that there's a six year waiting list from an AD. Again, as with most of Rolexs stuff, I prefer the older model with steel bezel.

    Perhaps the OP should look at the Steinhart Chronograph.


    https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/chronographs/ocean-one-vintage-chronograph.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    First of all thanks everyone.

    I checked Omega speedmaster pro and Steinhart watches. I didn't like them, and that's just my personal choice. I am sure they must be brilliant watches.

    Also, i have been dreaming about having a Rolex for several years so maybe that's why my mind is set to having a Rolex.

    I would never invest anything over 500e on adverts. I find it risky and would prefer to give more to a genuine shop or an online seller.

    And i had a Breitling replica in the past and it was not even close to the real deal. Maybe it was an cheap replica? And it looks like my budget is not even close to buy a real Daytona, even a used one!

    Any other suggestions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,642 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    First of all thanks everyone.

    I checked Omega speedmaster pro and Steinhart watches. I didn't like them, and that's just my personal choice. I am sure they must be brilliant watches.

    Also, i have been dreaming about having a Rolex for several years so maybe that's why my mind is set to having a Rolex.

    I would never invest anything over 500e on adverts. I find it risky and would prefer to give more to a genuine shop or an online seller.

    And i had a Breitling replica in the past and it was not even close to the real deal. Maybe it was an cheap replica? And it looks like my budget is not even close to buy a real Daytona, even a used one!

    Any other suggestions?

    Plenty of trusted sellers on adverts.

    With a budget of 2.8k you can buy a 2.8k new watch and take 50%hit on depreciation that day.

    Or you can buy a second hand 5k watch for 2.5k.

    Post a few example of watches you like interms of style?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    These are few styles i like:

    http://www.watchshop.com/mens-bulova-marine-star-chronograph-watch-98b278-p100003130.html

    http://www.watchshop.com/mens-guess-oasis-watch-w0366g4-p99976264.html?altproduct=1

    But inside my heart I may be stuck with a dream of getting Rolex.

    893bet wrote: »
    Plenty of trusted sellers on adverts.

    With a budget of 2.8k you can buy a 2.8k new watch and take 50%hit on depreciation that day.

    Or you can buy a second hand 5k watch for 2.5k.

    Post a few example of watches you like interms of style?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,642 ✭✭✭✭893bet



    Bling! For 2.8 you can get close to an older second hand piece. Both I posted would be from trusted dealers.

    A second hand Daytona is not available for less than 8k. The one you linked to is 13-14kbsevobd hand (trading above rrp due to lack of supply).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    If you always dreamed of having a Rolex your half way to your goal,
    An Air king or an Oyster perpetual is €5,500 ish. keep saving.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    That's what i am doing now. Saving bits. Will reach there in few years time.

    Any other model for 200e in the meantime? I liked Guess watch with golden rose dial and blue strap. Are they any good?
    If you always dreamed of having a Rolex your half way to your goal,
    An Air king or an Oyster perpetual is €5,500 ish. keep saving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Thanks for Seiko Prospex.

    Any other models for suggestions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    http://www.watchshop.com/mens-bulova-marine-star-chronograph-watch-98b278-p100003130.html?rcproduct=1

    Is this a good watch? Looks good to me but i dont know the background


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭yimrsg


    Tudor big block is similar to a Daytona


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    http://www.watchshop.com/mens-bulova-marine-star-chronograph-watch-98b278-p100003130.html?rcproduct=1

    Is this a good watch? Looks good to me but i dont know the background

    The watch you are looking at is a quartz ,( runs on a battery) the seiko is an automatic watch, runs of a movement inside , you could read up on this on line,
    be careful not to fall down the rabbit hole , It's a very bad disease with no cure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Turdor big watch looks nice but a bit dull around bezel.

    I have checked cons and pros of having auto watch vs battery watches


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭CarltonBrowne


    The two watches you've posted links to bear no resemblance to anything in the Rolex range. You need to either decide that it's a Rolex you want, in which case forget about what you like the look of and let your budget trim what you can have, or buy something else. The exchange rate is very much in your favour at the moment so I'd be looking at buying secondhand in the UK (obviously including Northern Ireland); you will almost certainly pay for your flight with what you save. With a bit of patience you'll get something for your budget.

    Lunns in Belfast do pre-owned (nothing for your budget at the moment but it might be an idea to ring them up), Miltonaires have a good reputation and Mike Wood of The Old Watch Shop in Southport may be able to help you. There are dozens of others out there.

    Edit: a Tudor chronograph should be just doable for your budget (I have no idea what "a bit dial around bezel" means) and the big block is probably in something of a sweet spot inasmuch as it's in a Rolex Oyster case, has a date and also a movement that can be serviced outside of the rather controlled Rolex parts supply chain. The only problem is that the big block ship might have sailed away from your budget but I haven't been tracking prices recently to be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    tbh. the ones you have lined to are more fashion type watches. If you want a Rolex, you need to save,
    As everyone has mentioned, go down the 2nd hand route to get a used Rolex but then you are limited to teh type based on you money
    What about the Bulova Moon? well in your budget and maybe buy an  Omega Seamaster as well, or maybe a Seamaster Chrono
    https://intl.bulova.com/collections/special-edition-watches

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    I agree I don't have the budget to buy a good Rolex.

    I meant Tudor "dial is a bit dull" in my previous post.

    How are Bulova watches? They have one with rose gold dial and i really like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    I agree I don't have the budget to buy a good Rolex.

    I meant Tudor "dial is a bit dull" in my previous post.

    How are Bulova watches? They have one with rose gold dial and i really like it.

    Yes that's exactly what this hobby is all about, If you like that Bulova, go for it.
    They make excellent quartz watches, Your are better to play around with less expensive watches at this stage , because your taste will change as you travel your journey of horology . Seiko are a very good brand to look at as there is a watch for every budget, Enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,283 ✭✭✭✭Eoin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Is it Tudor heritage black bay chrono? It costs 4.8k. Again out of my budget.
    Going to look at Bulova and Seiko watches now
    Eoin wrote: »


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    I would buy this Bulova watch, if it comes in silver metal link bracelet.

    http://www.watchshop.com/mens-bulova-marine-star-chronograph-watch-98b277-p100003129.html?rcproduct=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    I can see you like the black and gold theme, maybe something like this, Orient are a good brand owned by seiko.

    http://https://www.seriouswatches.com/collections/orient/products/orient-fet0r002b


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Saw few Seiko watches today. Visited Rolex store also and was tempted there. But Rolex i liked was 12k €


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭CarltonBrowne


    I've already reported the original fake suggestion. What's going on?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I've already reported the original fake suggestion. What's going on?
    Damn email playing up on my end. >-< Have deleted the suggestion to go for fake watches. Frowned upon in the watch world and beyond for all sorts of good reasons. No more talk of it here folks. Thanks.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Seiko are a very good brand to look at as there is a watch for every budget, Enjoy.


    Don't forget that the common or garden Seiko watches found in most watch stores are the bottom of a very large pyramid of Seiko products.

    Seiko make their so-called 'spring-drive' watches right up to prices approaching the lower end of the Rolex market.

    tac


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