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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    What is the big dislike of McHale from again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    yop wrote: »
    Thats the other thing isn't it. That game screamed from Dillion. He has done it so many times for us in Croker, one single job, one point. Drake was never going to score a point.

    Boland, Irwin, Nally all gone, there maybe reasons, but if you have to bring in backs to replace forwards then the selectors have a serious issue.

    There in lies the point. Rochford is conservative & at that stage of the game not losing was more important than driving on for the win. He looked gutted & very down in his post match interview. A man under serious pressure in my eyes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,853 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    source?

    A text from my sister.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    keane2097 wrote: »
    What is the big dislike of McHale from again?

    Who knows. The criticism of him is more of the same old bullsh*t associated with Mayo football. We'd turn down the best of managers or coaches over nonsense. Its clear the McStay/McHale partnership works and McHale is a talented coach based on what he has done with Brigids and Roscommon.

    But player power seems to rule in Mayo and that is why this bunch of players will never win an AI. They'd rather call the shots on a losing team than be a low key member of a winning one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    keane2097 wrote: »
    What is the big dislike of McHale from again?

    It's just our way of balancing things out. The man has so much love for himself that it's needed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    keane2097 wrote: »
    What is the big dislike of McHale from again?

    He used to have a column in the Western People. Over the years, he has made comments about Horan's Mayo teams that didn't go down well with the players or mgt team. Before the 2013 AI final, he called Andy Moran "unfit" and before the 2014 Connaught final, he called Mayo "past it". Stuff like that, has ticked people off over the years and marked his card, when it came to his being considered for the Mayo mgt gig himself.

    Or at least that is my opinion of the brouhaha, as a neutral. Mayo folk will probably say something a lot harsher about him. They generally do, when one of their own doesn't sing from the same hymn sheet. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    yop wrote: »
    Thats the other thing isn't it. That game screamed from Dillion. He has done it so many times for us in Croker, one single job, one point. Drake was never going to score a point.

    Boland, Irwin, Nally all gone, there maybe reasons, but if you have to bring in backs to replace forwards then the selectors have a serious issue.

    Pretty sure Boland & Nally were in the squad yesterday.

    Would agree with Suarez, he's fairly conservative. We've 2 inside forwards, Loftus comes in for Andy. You have Aidan popping in their the odd time. Outside of that you're required to be a workhorse, physical player that can run and try not to do anything daft.

    Boland is a luxury and I think Dillion was only brought on to help wind down the game vs Cork rather than to win it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    He used to have a column in the Western People. Over the years, he has made comments about Horan's Mayo teams that didn't go down well with the players or mgt team. Before the 2013 AI final, he called Andy Moran "unfit" and before the 2014 Connaught final, he called Mayo "past it". Stuff like that, has ticked people off over the years and marked his card, when it came to his being considered for the Mayo mgt gig himself.

    Sounds like fairly honest criticisms of the team to me. To improve any team you have to be blunt about their weaknesses and ruthless in changing them. Unfortunately that will put a few noses out of joint with players who only want to be told how great they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    PARlance wrote: »
    It's just our way of balancing things out. The man has so much love for himself that it's needed.

    In fairness he was a great player and has been a pretty good coach too, so he's probably entitled to like himself. Not hiring a guy because he loves himself seems a bit bizarre and probably would only happen with Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,307 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    keane2097 wrote: »
    What is the big dislike of McHale from again?

    It's my opinion that he is too "old school" for the modern game.

    Was a great player and a real hero to us young lads growing up in the ’80s.

    After the change brought in by Horan I reckon a lot of it would be undone by McHale.

    More laps of the pitch and less s+c I reckon.

    People who think we are missing something with not having him are very much of "the grass is always greener" mentality.

    It a wonder why a lot of good players left the Roscommon setup since he became involved, can't be a coincidence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,307 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    In fairness he was a great player and has been a pretty good coach too, so he's probably entitled to like himself. Not hiring a guy because he loves himself seems a bit bizarre and probably would only happen with Mayo.

    What exactly has he achieved as a coach ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    In fairness he was a great player and has been a pretty good coach too, so he's probably entitled to like himself. Not hiring a guy because he loves himself seems a bit bizarre and probably would only happen with Mayo.

    I would try not to let it affect me if I was hiring him, but I'm not. On a personal level I don't like him all too much from the bits I see.
    It was only last week when he proclaimed himself as the best coach in the game... I don't mind confidence at all, I just think it makes him look like a clown at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ethical


    But didnt the great John Maughan love himself also!!!.......and he got the team to finals!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Did anyone listen to the marty farty party after the game on the radio? Assuming it was a Rossie fan who wanted Lee Keegan to be highlighted on Sunday Game, that it had to stop the way he goes on bla bla bla, how the forehead let him continue with air time was beyond me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    ethical wrote: »
    But didnt the great John Maughan love himself also!!!.......and he got the team to finals!

    It seems its better to be knocked out in the first round of qualifiers so long as the coach hates himself. In fact if the coach likes what he sees in the mirror, he should be fired right away.

    :rolleyes:

    I'm beginning to think Mayo football is just one long running joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Blud


    So that was bad yesterday, really bad. Completely disjointed performance, we really look like we're honing nowhere this year.

    I think we need to shake things up a little next week. I'd probably leave Keegan on Smith even if it means him playing full back. That in turn would allow us to drop Cafferkey and start with Vaughan instead, which I think makes us a tighter team.

    If Smith does go in full forward, then I'd put AOS on the edge of the square at the other end. That takes a second big man out of the middle of the pitch for Roscommon, and would mean we could maybe take Andy out of the starting team for Parsons.

    Something like this

    Clarke
    Harrison
    Keegan
    Higgins as sweeper, was good yesterday
    Durcan
    Barrett
    Boyle
    SOS
    Parsons
    K McL
    Doherty
    DOC
    Vaughan (to play in backs allowing Higgins sweep)
    AOS
    COC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    What exactly has he achieved as a coach ?

    Read my previous posts and stop being lazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,462 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Tickets reduced by a fiver from the double header .......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Farmer_3650


    km79 wrote: »
    Tickets reduced by a fiver from the double header .......

    Does that mean U16's are free?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    3 years ago Mayo had a minor who played full forward and looked like a senior in the making .

    Is he gone altogether ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    keane2097 wrote: »
    What is the big dislike of McHale from again?

    No idea??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    A text from my sister.

    Your sister was right :D, confirmed for 2pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    3 years ago Mayo had a minor who played full forward and looked like a senior in the making .

    Is he gone altogether ?

    Liam Irwin, 4 years ago now. Scored an absolute cracker against the Rossies that year. Went on to win U21 last year.

    He was involved in the senior squad this year but was dropped during the league. Wasn't included in the development panel. Bit found of the good life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ethical


    That comment on that Irwin lad is very unfair.He is an accomplished soccer player as well as a very skilfull gaelic player and would do a very good job for Mayo if he was treated fairly.He is a quiet lad that does what he is told and perhaps if he was a loud mouth he would be more thought of.He is still of the right age and should be encouraged to come back into the fold again.He has terrific natural talent,something you cannot coach into a player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭Oldtree


    Clearys Qpark was full yesterday when I arrived, havn't seen that before even on an AI day. I just booked their Day Parking (9am - 6pm) for the 7th. Was €12 after the axa discount ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Evans did didly squat in the Championship. He was hopeless, they were beaten left right and centre.

    McStay has led them to two Connacht finals, one Connacht title. Their first year in Division 1 was brilliant and it looks like they pretty much ignored the league to focus on the championship this year. And this after several defections and retirements from the camp. Its fair to say McStay has done a great job with Roscommon.

    I'm getting tired of reading and hearing people saying things like "McGuinness, McStay, Harte, Gavin, blah blah are holding a team back". Its usually only said about the successful managers.

    To say McStay is holding Roscommon back is utter nonsense.

    Come on, by beating New York, Sligo and Leitrim, any half decent manager would have done that. Im not slagging off Mc Stay but i hardly think the above is worthy of any particular praise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    In fairness he was a great player and has been a pretty good coach too, so he's probably entitled to like himself. Not hiring a guy because he loves himself seems a bit bizarre and probably would only happen with Mayo.

    What bull****, nobody said anything of the sort but hey keep making things up to suit your argument


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Anyone else notice Mc Stay constantly hassling the linesman and fourth official, i was directly behind him and he was at it all the time in their faces pointing out stuff after every incident. never noticed him at that before. McHale was very reserved, i was quite surprised at that tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,804 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    seligehgit wrote: »
    No idea??

    I think it was the bit about there being some bad blood because he had criticised a few of the players that I had heard before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,307 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Read my previous posts and stop being lazy.

    I'm not going through the thread to try and filter out what you have said.

    He has been a coach on a team that has won a club All Ireland that's about all I can think of of any significance.

    That is not worth much when the current Mayo manager was the manager of a team that won an club All Ireland.


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