Season 7 Episode 3 "The Queen's Justice" - "Non book readers"

Nody · 23-07-2017 09:53PM #1

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12gauge dave · 31-07-2017 03:08AM

Good episode:)
My stream went blank at very ending could someone tell me what tyrion said at the very end i seen up to the back door being penetrated pardon the pun:) but stream went blank then.

31-07-2017 03:09AM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Good episode:)
My stream went blank at very ending could someone tell me what tyrion said at the very end i seen up to the back door being penetrated pardon the pun:) but stream went blank then.

Last scene was Jamie and Olena...

J. Marston · 31-07-2017 03:20AM

That last scene with Jaime and Olenna was fantastic. Olenna was a thorned rose to the very end. Diana Rigg was brilliant in every scene.

IvySlayer · 31-07-2017 03:30AM

For a master of spies Varys has been lacking..Lannister army moving, Casterley Rock being evacuted, marching on high garden, Eurons fleet, the north etc

Mr Crispy · 31-07-2017 03:32AM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Good episode:)
My stream went blank at very ending could someone tell me what tyrion said at the very end i seen up to the back door being penetrated pardon the pun:) but stream went blank then.

You missed quite a bit if that was the last bit you saw! Rewatch before proceeding with this thread!

Good episode I thought. Very good. Lots of questions raised, but I guess they should go in the speculation thread! Agreed on Diana Rigg. Lady Olenna will be missed!

Re: Varys. His little Westerosi birds are now working for Qyburn, so I'm not sure if Varys is even acting as master of spies for Dany, rather than just a general advisor.

J. Marston · 31-07-2017 03:40AM

Sansa and Bran wasn't the best reunion.

"Hey Sis, remember that night you got raped?"

Bran you dick.

rawn · 31-07-2017 03:57AM

"It was snowing and you were wearing a white dress" he says to a woman who got married in Winterfell. Of all the things a seer could have said he saw...! He came across like a â‚¬9.99 a minute psychic hotline!

lertsnim · 31-07-2017 05:29AM

J. Marston wrote: »

Sansa and Bran wasn't the best reunion.

"Hey Sis, remember that night you got raped?"

Bran you dick.

At least he told her that she looked beautiful.

golfball37 · 31-07-2017 07:48AM

lertsnim wrote: »

At least he told her that she looked beautiful.

Absolute beast of an episode. Loved it from start to finish. Wasn't entirely clear it was highgarden at end and Bran scene was creepy. Otherwise faultless really.

Al Capwned · 31-07-2017 07:51AM

I like to think that Jon thought of Ygritte when Daenerys said they should consider what they "know".

EagererBeaver · 31-07-2017 08:32AM

golfball37 wrote: »

Absolute beast of an episode. Loved it from start to finish. Wasn't entirely clear it was highgarden at end and Bran scene was creepy. Otherwise faultless really.

It was very clear - Tarly with the Lannister army, Olenna Tyrell, Jaime taking about abandoning Casterly Rock...

Vicxas · 31-07-2017 08:45AM

Fantastic episode, the tension between Danny and Jon Snow at the start was nerve racking i wasn't sure which way it was gonna go.

Also, as much as I hate Cersei its nice to see shes not just turteling in Kings Landing.

Ping Chow Chi · 31-07-2017 09:17AM

J. Marston wrote: »

Sansa and Bran wasn't the best reunion.

"Hey Sis, remember that night you got raped?"

Bran you dick.

It was even worse it came across as 'hey sis, I watched you get raped and you looked nice in the dress' I was thinking of all the events you could have mentioned, why bring up that!

CMOTDibbler · 31-07-2017 09:31AM

Ping Chow Chi wrote: »

It was even worse it came across as 'hey sis, I watched you get raped and you looked nice in the dress' I was thinking of all the events you could have mentioned, why bring up that!

It was a defining moment for Sansa. It was also instigated by Littlefinger. Perhaps that's something Sansa needs reminding of?

Ping Chow Chi · 31-07-2017 10:19AM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

It was a defining moment for Sansa. It was also instigated by Littlefinger. Perhaps that's something Sansa needs reminding of?

ohhh, I had not thought of that!

TCDStudent1 · 31-07-2017 10:32AM

i wouldn't be too impressed if I was one of the Lannister soldiers left behind st casterly rock

Billy86 · 31-07-2017 10:36AM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

i wouldn't be too impressed if I was one of the Lannister soldiers left behind st casterly rock

Dead men can't protest.

marklazarcovic · 31-07-2017 10:43AM

Sansa needed to be told something only she was left to speak of ,the rape,by the three eyed Raven,to know he was telling the truth

Billy86 · 31-07-2017 10:54AM

People were complaining about Euron before this week and it wasn't much of an issue to me, but his presenting the captives scene was really quite OTT I thought from the 'finger in the bum' line as well a riding a fecking horse into the throne room (has that happened before?). All a bit too showman like. I also wasn't mad on the deus ex machina-esque way his fleet somehow got from KL to Casterly Rock so quickly (unless they were coming from the Iron Islands, but... even more boats in that armada!?!?). They missed a really easy out too where they could have given the Iron Bank fella a quick line showing that Euron is also in heavy debt for his mysteriously huge, ultra flashy armada of superboats that was built in basically no time. A patchwork excuse for something that really does grate me the more I think about it, but it would still be some form of explanation.

As I was watching it I felt a bit underwhelmed by the battle scene near the end, but after I think it was well done - it was underwhelming for the Unsullied/Unsillied as well which showed by Grey Worm saying there were supposed to be much more before seeing their fleet getting attacked - e.g. no real satisfying ending or sense of victory either.

Sansa/Bran scene also disappointing, though it may have been for a bit of a reason like the battle scene - she was expecting a big, emotional catch up with her brother but... well he's not really even her brother anymore, as he said he cannot be Lord of Winterfell. He's the Three Eyed Raven instead.

Seeing the end of the fecking sandsnakes was great too, and was very well done - the kiss came so quick that I didn't know what was going on at first and was a bit worried it was HBO just looking for more bewbs and lesbian stuff for the same of it... then a couple of seconds later the penny dropped.

Jon/Dany scene was good but the Jaime/Olenna one was fantastic, and I really liked Jaime's comment about Robb Stark having done the same to him, tied it together quite well.

Evade · 31-07-2017 10:57AM

Billy86 wrote: »

riding a fecking horse into the throne room (has that happened before?).

Tywin Lannister did it after the battle of the Blackwater.

castletownman · 31-07-2017 11:27AM

Really thought that episode was top class.

The opening twenty minutes or so between Dany and Jon was tense. Good to see Jon stand by his conviction and not take a knee for the sake of her self-vanity.

Olenna has to have had the most bad-ass exit in the show. Certainly in terms of defiance right to the end anyway. Sickened Jaime

I am currently immersed in Dan Carlin's "Hardcore History" podcasts, and those tactical maneouvres by Tyrion and Jaime regarding Casterely Rock/Highgarden deserves his taking on it

Those Lannisters are cute hoors on the battlefield.

Would echo a previous criticism of Euron's entrance to Cersei. Felt it was too cheesy, and the "finger in the bum" comment was a bit much and a bit "modern".

Apt name for the episode though what with Cersei's treatment of the Sand Snakes. The daughter's acting was as hollow as ever. At least she is consistent.

Daledge · 31-07-2017 11:38AM

castletownman wrote: »

Olenna has to have had the most bad-ass exit in the show. Certainly in terms of defiance right to the end anyway. Sickened Jaime

It may be more important than that - Tyrion and Sansa were both exiled for that murder. Jaime now knows for certain that his brother was innocent.

rawn · 31-07-2017 11:51AM

castletownman wrote:

Apt name for the episode though what with Cersei's treatment of the Sand Snakes. The daughter's acting was as hollow as ever. At least she is consistent.

Really? I thought she was great! Ellaria too

rawn · 31-07-2017 11:52AM

Daledge wrote:

It may be more important than that - Tyrion and Sansa were both exiled for that murder. Jaime now knows for certain that his brother was innocent.

Exactly, but he did still kill their father.

PressRun · 31-07-2017 12:01PM

Olenna's confession at the end will likely have more consequences than her just getting one up on Cersei.

Adamocovic · 31-07-2017 12:37PM

Billy86 wrote: »

People were complaining about Euron before this week and it wasn't much of an issue to me, but his presenting the captives scene was really quite OTT I thought from the 'finger in the bum' line as well a riding a fecking horse into the throne room (has that happened before?). All a bit too showman like.

That's his character though. An over the top showman full of bravado. From what I see a lot of people are fans of his. He seems to be well aware that people are dying like flies so he's intent on enjoying himself to the last moment.

31-07-2017 12:38PM

The Danish actor playing Euron Greyjoy is very good at what he does -
"Does she like it rough, or gentle? A finger up the bum? Don't tell me now, we'll talk later".
His delivery of that little piece was great

Adamocovic · 31-07-2017 12:41PM

PressRun wrote: »

Olenna's confession at the end will likely have more consequences than her just getting one up on Cersei.

Further strain on her relationship with Jaime.

Him discovering Tyrion was innocent all along. I can imagine if he mentions it to Cersei she will still refuse to believe Tyrion played no part.

Of course Tyrion still did kill Tywin but was pushed to doing so.

leggo · 31-07-2017 12:44PM

glasso wrote: »

The Danish actor playing Euron Greyjoy is very good at what he does -
"Does like it rough, or gentle? A finger up the bum? Don't tell me now, we'll talk later".
His delivery of that little piece was great

Yeah, I laughed too. I don't get the hate some have for that part, I don't watch the show with zombies, dragons and sex everywhere for subtlety...:pac:

BoJack Horseman · 31-07-2017 01:04PM

Great episode, best of the season so far.

I quite liked the method they did the military stuff in.... I don't know the word for it.
Kind of like in flashback mode or something.
It's chess, we don't need to see all the battles in real time, just to see the pieces moving.

I am critical that Bran's transition to automaton mode was given no time to flesh out.
A few minutes would be fine.

Ditto for the Greyscale disease.
Incurable apparently, but no, a scalpel and some Sudocream and bobs your uncle!
They spent so much time setting things up to be wrapped up too quickly.

So, while it was a good episode it is already feeling rushed.

It's HBO's most lucrative show, why they gave so few episodes could well bite them in the back side.

Season 7 Episode 3 "The Queen's Justice" - "Non book readers"

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