Huge rise in adults living at home

Elessar · 27-07-2017 11:18PM #1

So according to the census there has been a large rise in young people living at home since 2011:

Working people aged 30 to 34 and still at home saw an even larger increase of 26 per cent, rising from 23,835 in 2011 to 30,137 in 2016, despite the fact that the numbers of those living at home usually falls dramatically between the ages of 25 and 30.

Do you still live at home? This is can be a pretty emotive topic so lets try keep it civil. I admit that I still do (32 male) but only because of the massive prices of rent and houses. It enables me to save a lot aswell, and I keep my mam company. Doubt I'll do it forever, but I overall I don't mind it. Having a good pot of money saved is very important to me.

27-07-2017 11:23PM

Elessar wrote: »

So according to the census there has been a large rise in young people living at home since 2011:

Do you still live at home? This is can be a pretty emotive topic so lets try keep it civil. I admit that I still do (32 male) but only because of the massive prices of rent and houses. It enables me to save a lot aswell, and I keep my mam company. Doubt I'll do it forever, but I overall I don't mind it. Having a good pot of money saved is very important to me.

35 year old male and have done for last 5 years. Partly to keep my dad company after my mam died but upshot is I've saved plenty and paid off all debts, kicking off a house build in next month and will only have a small mortgage. So it's been a pain at times not having my own space but I think it'll be worth it.

A Battered Mars Bar · 27-07-2017 11:27PM

I would if I could but I can't so I'm poor cos fine gael fine fail landlords take all my money

Pero_Bueno · 27-07-2017 11:30PM

Come to Spain, where it's perfectly socially acceptable to be 50 and live at home with Mammy and Daddy ... oh yeah and have a good job and your own apartment ... but RENT that out to make more $$$$ meanwhile living at home rent free and not having to pay for food.

im not joking here.

I even know a 67 year old man who goes to his mother (90) EVERY day for his lunch and leaves his shirts for her to wash.

Pero_Bueno · 27-07-2017 11:32PM

^^ and this is not a few edge cases, this is typical here.

Guys if you like Spanish women, come to spain, the local men are mammys boys pussies, they will jump at the chance of a man - a real man that will get his own apartment .. pay his way .. wash his own clothes etc...

dd972 · 27-07-2017 11:34PM

I'm 75 and still waiting the get the house and have the mot over.:mad:

Irish_rat · 27-07-2017 11:35PM

Moved out at 17 and couldn't go back to living at home.

RacoonQueen · 27-07-2017 11:36PM

It's common in some European countries for people to live at home until they marry.

Christ, no way I could live with my folks again though.

PirateShampoo · 27-07-2017 11:40PM

What choice do a lot of us have?

Cant afford to get my own mortgage neither mind make the repayments.

What's the going rate for a flat these days 1.5k a month? That would leave me with 200 euro a week to live and that's not duducting bills.

House share, ive did this a few times, and from grown men shaving thier entire body in the bath and leaving in there to the odd Ukrainian couple who's with wasn't allowed to speak to the other male residents I say **** house sharing. It's horrible.

Live at home, help my father clear his mortgage and not some strangers. It's not ideal but it's the best option i have open to me.

messy tessy · 27-07-2017 11:43PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Christ, no way I could live with my folks again though.

I would say for a lot of parents it's Christ no way am I letting him/her move back home! :P

27-07-2017 11:46PM

Outside of Dublin if you're working and living with parents it's generally by choice.

27-07-2017 11:47PM

PirateShampoo wrote: »

What choice do a lot of us have?

Cant afford to get my own mortgage neither mind make the repayments.

What's the going rate for a flat these days 1.5k a month? That would leave me with 200 euro a week to live and that's not duducting bills.

House share, ive did this a few times, and from grown men shaving thier entire body in the bath and leaving in there to the odd Ukrainian couple who's with wasn't allowed to speak to the other male residents I say **** house sharing. It's horrible.

Live at home, help my father clear his mortgage and not some strangers. It's not ideal but it's the best option i have open to me.

With an income of 2300 a month after tax and living with your dad you should be able to get a deposit together in a couple of years no?

CeilingFly · 27-07-2017 11:49PM

Irish_rat wrote: »

Moved out at 17 and couldn't go back to living at home.

Or "not allowed back"

NinetyTwoTeam · 27-07-2017 11:49PM

I left home at 19, always lived independently. Lost my job a few years back and had to pay all my rent and bills out of my dole, couldn't get rent allowance because the limits on your rent were way below actual rents in the area so I got nothing.

So I struggled on thinking no way will I move home at 35. Then the landlord sold the house from under us and I just thought, to hell with this, I might think I'm too old to be living at home but I'm too old to be sharing with strangers as well and 'd rather give my Mum fifty quid a week towards her mortgage than nearly double that to some cowboy landlord for a moldy kip.

It hasn't been too bad, the attic is converted to a bedroom, small enough but it has an en suite, and we get along grand now that I'm older and not a party animal any more and I can help her too, just painted all the exterior walls for her, stuff like that, and I can save up a bit. Having rented for so long, I know I'm not missing much.
A quick browse of the accommodation forum will confirm this, renting in Ireland, especially in Dublin, is a sick joke.

Noveight · 28-07-2017 12:06AM

I'll be 24 in November and I'm at home with the folks. I'll be finished my post-grad in June '18 and hopefully start on my career-path during the following months. At that point I'll be thinking about renting somewhere with the OH, so it's in the pipeline.

cantdecide · 28-07-2017 12:16AM

I'm in the above category, I'm ashamed and dismayed to say. Construction died and I've been stuck at age 25 for the bones of a decade. I've been breaking my back at work and taking a degree course part time and I finally got a better job in May instead of a minimum wage outsourced public sector job which was the best I could get in 2014 having been in and out of work up to that point.

My ambition is to come up with he deposit for a small cottage before I turn 40- I think could be on the housing list, tbh. Welcome to the world of post-recession Ireland and the assumption of being double income/ no kids in order to get a modest home for the family you can't afford to have.

worded · 28-07-2017 12:20AM

Oh get a life !

Or a van perhaps

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/24/vanlife-the-bohemian-social-media-movement

_Brian · 28-07-2017 12:26AM

I left home at 17 and made my way, it wasn't easy but I did it, I knew I would be welcome at home at any time which was great reassurance.
My eldest is 14, just 3 years younger than when I left home, it sends a chill down my spine.

My kids will be welcome and have rooms here for however long they want, just the same reassurance I had.

Wibbs · 28-07-2017 12:52AM

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

^^ and this is not a few edge cases, this is typical here.

Guys if you like Spanish women, come to spain, the local men are mammys boys pussies, they will jump at the chance of a man - a real man that will get his own apartment .. pay his way .. wash his own clothes etc...

Similar for Italy. Which is grand on the surface, until you get deeper into it and that initial attraction for your "real man" status is replaced by her cultural tendency to feel she must assume the role of your "mammy", cos that's what she knows and is comfortable with. Beyond the macho surface they are very much matriarchal societies. I would argue Ireland is not far off the same and has been for many a generation, even under the yoke of "oul Ireland".

Pero_Bueno · 28-07-2017 01:22AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Similar for Italy. Which is grand on the surface, until you get deeper into it and that initial attraction for your "real man" status is replaced by her cultural tendency to feel she must assume the role of your "mammy", cos that's what she knows and is comfortable with. Beyond the macho surface they are very much matriarchal societies. I would argue Ireland is not far off the same and has been for many a generation, even under the yoke of "oul Ireland".

As always Wibbs .... spot on !!

Permabear · 28-07-2017 01:34AM

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28-07-2017 02:00AM

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

I would if I could but I can't so I'm poor cos fine gael fine fail landlords take all my money

And they give it back to Fine gale/fail

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

^^ and this is not a few edge cases, this is typical here.

Guys if you like Spanish women, come to spain, the local men are mammys boys pussies, they will jump at the chance of a man - a real man that will get his own apartment .. pay his way .. wash his own clothes etc...

This was sounding like an attractive proposition, I dont think renting out your property here and living elsewhere in this country or anywhere is a money making scheme or even a realistic option in Ireland, but it should be encouraged to facilitate movement of people and allow owners rent out a property to offset personal rental costs, some kind of midway position between renting rooms and fully let from a formal landlord, I suppose Id have to learn Spanish or one of the other languages of the Iberian peninsula, it seems like a diverse place so maybe all of Spain is not so much like this as over time I realised its not as homogenous a place as I previously though.
Besides, I then read post 19 and was brought back to earth. That said, Ive no idea what Spanish women are like, they might be very tempermental or just mental.

worded · 28-07-2017 06:11AM

1874 wrote: »

And they give it back to Fine gale/fail

This was sounding like an attractive proposition, I dont think renting out your property here and living elsewhere in this country or anywhere is a money making scheme or even a realistic option in Ireland, but it should be encouraged to facilitate movement of people and allow owners rent out a property to offset personal rental costs, some kind of midway position between renting rooms and fully let from a formal landlord, I suppose Id have to learn Spanish or one of the other languages of the Iberian peninsula, it seems like a diverse place so maybe all of Spain is not so much like this as over time I realised its not as homogenous a place as I previously though.
Besides, I then read post 19 and was brought back to earth. That said, Ive no idea what Spanish women are like, they might be very tempermental or just mental.

A woman half irish and half another nationality are great. You get the personality without the psychosis

Hot blooded Latino wimmins are great craic in the bedroom and can be equally spectaluar in the kitchen.

That said no one can make an irish stew like you mammy so it's best to stay at home and watch re runs of euro trash

nkav86 · 28-07-2017 06:35AM

31 and living at home. I made some poor choices in my 20s, too much booze and no thought given to the future. I have rented before with friends and with a partner but there never seemed to be enough money. I remember having 850e a month rent due when my hours at work were cut from 36 to 12 with no explanation. Not having realised the contract I had signed only guaranteed the 12. I was in over my head.

So I moved back in with my father, I hate it. It's embarrassing, I work with people my age that are married with mortgages and are carving a real future for themselves and I feel like I'm just starting again. I've learned a lot from my mistakes and hope that it's not too late to find my feet again.

Optimalprimerib · 28-07-2017 06:36AM

I lived at home until I got my own place 5 years ago. I was 31 at the time and it really was frowned upon to be still with your parents.

It was the best decision I ever made even though it was pure luck. I got the house right at the point of the belly falling out of the market, the monthly mortgage is 1/3 of what renting would be and as I was on a poor wage at the time, my house is modest enough for my needs.

Now I think it it is much more common for single people to live at home and makes more sense unless work/commute dictates other wise.

worded · 28-07-2017 06:38AM

cantdecide wrote: »

I'm in the above category, I'm ashamed and dismayed to say. Construction died and I've been stuck at age 25 for the bones of a decade. I've been breaking my back at work and taking a degree course part time and I finally got a better job in May instead of a minimum wage outsourced public sector job which was the best I could get in 2014 having been in and out of work up to that point.

My ambition is to come up with he deposit for a small cottage before I turn 40- I think could be on the housing list, tbh. Welcome to the world of post-recession Ireland and the assumption of being double income/ no kids in order to get a modest home for the family you can't afford to have.

Fight the good fight and keep fighting, you weren't put here to suffer

Use your instincts and look for opportunities and small investments etc

If you wait until you can afford kids you will never have any

Keep your hopes up

myshirt · 28-07-2017 06:44AM

We are the only species on this planet to raise our children, kick them out of the nest, but then let them back in.

No other species does this. It's on your bike.

HalloweenJack · 28-07-2017 06:50AM

Finished college in 2011 and left Ireland a few weeks later to teach English. If it hadn't been for that, I can imagine that I myself would also be part of that number.

I'd say about half the people I went to school with are still at home while several from college are at home as well. In both groups, a considerable amount of the ones that don't live at home do so because they don't live anywhere near home, like myself.

Not surprising whatsoever when there is a "lost "generation" feeling to an extent with my generation. Plenty of people who wanted to work, with college degrees and qualifications, but the jobs were all elsewhere. Now, that things are improving, they're competing with people younger than them who probably have more relevant qualifications and the same amount of experience for the jobs that weren't there in the last decade. I know of several people from school and college who wandered around from the dole to Jobsbridge to the dole again to low-level, part-time work to the dole to Jobsbridge ad nauseum. These people all went to college, having been sold the "you won't get a good job without a degree" mantra. Not to mention the horrendous rent situation in Dublin.

If there's no jobs, prices go up and the dole is cut, where exactly were these people supposed to go?

worded · 28-07-2017 07:11AM

nkav86 wrote: »

31 and living at home. I made some poor choices in my 20s, too much booze and no thought given to the future. I have rented before with friends and with a partner but there never seemed to be enough money. I remember having 850e a month rent due when my hours at work were cut from 36 to 12 with no explanation. Not having realised the contract I had signed only guaranteed the 12. I was in over my head.

So I moved back in with my father, I hate it. It's embarrassing, I work with people my age that are married with mortgages and are carving a real future for themselves and I feel like I'm just starting again. I've learned a lot from my mistakes and hope that it's not too late to find my feet again.

Dust yourself off and give up the booze. Lots of ppl would love to have had your experiences but got married too young etc

The world is the lobster, if you have your health look around, reinvent yourself.

You have endless opportunities if you are not anchored to a mortgage with kids and separated etc

31 - that's young, but one third of your life over so, make the next 2/3 count,give it everything you've got

hytrogen · 28-07-2017 07:18AM

worded wrote:

Oh get a life !
Or a van perhaps

Better yet a boat!

worded · 28-07-2017 07:20AM

myshirt wrote: »

We are the only species on this planet to raise our children, kick them out of the nest, but then let them back in.

No other species does this. It's on your bike.

That's too harsh IMO

Some people need a few bounce back to the net before making it in the world and it can suit parents as well.

No one should paracite off their folks indefinitely but no harm in symbiosis now and again.

So a young person or not so young should go homeless for a year or two in between jobs or doing a course with no funds rather than return home for help for an agreed length of time ? If it suits both parties ?

Huge rise in adults living at home

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