Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

hbhook wrote: »

What's Mc like with cuts? Was reading Virgil Hunter's thoughts the other day. He reckons cuts may be a problem. In the same thread someone said team McG turned down a great cut man called Jacob 'Stitch' Duran as he priced himself out apparently...

Dana White (President of UFC) hates Stitch Duran. He fired him. That's probably more the reason if Stitch doesn't get the job. I was hoping Stitch would get the job as he's the best.

As for Conor, he doesn't open easily but there's 2 areas to look out for:

Right eyebrow: The cut Chad Mendes inflicted with the slicing elbow. It did re-open in the Aldo fight but he got it re-stitched and it didn't open in either Diaz fight or the Alvarez fight.

Nose: Like most fighters he has had it broken and re-set in training but the bridge of his nose tends to mark up. He bruised it last week in sparring and he opened up a small cut on it in 2015 when the velcro strap of the glove landed on it. I believe Tom Egan caused that but open to correction.

I think the first thing we will see open is the bridge of his nose because Floyd is very accurate with his jab and Conor has a big nose to hit.

So I'd expect to see blood by round 3 or 4. Won't trouble him unless Floyd succeeds in breaking the nose to disrupt his breathing.

wonderfullife wrote: »

I will bet you 500 euro that Conor has at least 4 more fights in the UFC and/or is still fighting (in any combat sport) in the year 2020.

If you're so certain, take the bet. We both have 3 years to save up the money to pay the loser.

Of course he'll have a couple more fights in the UFC... and/or possibly one or two more in boxing. He is clearly trying to stockpile enough money to comfortably retire, as an extremely wealthy individual - smart dude! Good luck to him...

I said, he will hang up the gloves some time in the near future... I never put a number on how many fights he will have, because who could reliably predict such a thing?

Your bravado bets are not fooling anyone... the fact is, Conor has hinted many times (or even outright suggested) that he intends to have a relatively short prize fighting career!

From your comments, you seem to think that prize fighting and martial arts are one and the same thing... they are not!! Conor has witnessed a fighter die in front of him inside a cage... do you honestly think he is foolish enough to stick around in that world for too long??

This whole Mayweather fight, is motivated by his desire to get rich quick, so that he doesn't have to fight deep into his 30's.

It's funny how you seem to believe almost anything that comes out of Conor's mouth... but when he says he intends to retire young, you choose not to believe that... :rolleyes:

Perhaps, as a fanboy, the idea of Conor retiring fills you with dread... what will you do with all you spare time when he's gone?? You'll have to find a new person to idolize... Or you might have to contemplate the stark reality of not living vicariously through a celebrity you don't even know... and actually go out, and live your own life... and chase down your own dreams!!

You wouldn't accuse Ward of not taking the fight seriously based on his sparring partner.

Ward is a world class fighter... but he's also a world class BS artist too.

It's common knowledge, that he is very good friends with both Diaz brothers. So he is obviously not going to trash their boxing skills. Most people don't do that to their friends...

I would imagine he is just using the Diaz brothers as a type of punching bag, that moves a bit more than his traditional heavy bag... (but not a great deal more) :pac::pac:

wonderfullife wrote: »

If you swim the butterfly and are trying out the breaststroke, it probably makes sense not to compete against Adam Peaty from day 1 in practice.

What?? lol

He needs top quality sparring partners, if he wants any hope of winning this fight... simple as that.

Stop trying over complicate simple things!!

kippy wrote: »

I think people over estimate how difficult it is to 'learn' boxing. Its not exactly rocket science especially when the person learning it already knows the basics and is a physically fit person.

No... just... no :rolleyes:

Golf is an easy game too... just get the ball in the tiny hole, where the flag is, in less shots than your competitors. And yet, it is one of the most difficult and skilled games in the world. Most people spend their entire lives being frustratingly average at golf.

Boxing is a bit like golf... it's simple in theory, but very difficult and complex in other ways. But unlike golf, the consequences of being rubbish at boxing, are quite a bit more serious!!

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

He should just focus on endurance and stamina training. Boxing training is useless because we all know he can't actually box against Floyd Mayweather, Even if he spent every waking moment sparing, It's still just a drop in the ocean compared to a man who has been doing this all his life.

UFC training won't help him against Floyd either. If anything it makes him more likely to lift a knee or foot instinctively and get himself disqualified.

You make an excellent point... although it is possible to build up your stamina, while also working on your boxing fundamentals too!

For his sake, I hope most of his boxing work (ie sparring etc) is very much focussed on his fight gameplan... because, like you said, working on improving his general boxing skills is a bit pointless at this late stage!

Fitness and fight strategy should be dominating his prep at this stage... if he is showing off for the cameras, or trying to impress sparring partners... he is wasting valuable time!

kippy wrote: »

I think people over estimate how difficult it is to 'learn' boxing. Its not exactly rocket science especially when the person learning it already knows the basics and is a physically fit person.

Boxing has many different levels . Nobody is disputing someone who knows the basics and is physically fit can 'learn' boxing

Maravilla33 wrote: »

Love how the guys who think McGregor has a chance are fully hedging their bets and are all like 'no I think Mayweather will 99% win' but... Then get their knickers in a twist with the people who give McGregor no chance.

Its a cult - thou shalt not say Conors name in vein

walshb wrote: »

I am more leaning now with wanting Floyd to put on a clear cut domination job....

The "fluke" KO option would be just wow/hilarious/ridiculous. That's all.

Would have zero impact on the sport of boxing when looked at in depth.

Call it my rooting for the sport I love over a sport I watch more casually.

For me it's more boxing vs. MMA than man vs. man....These two men are not near equal here. It is not a sporting contest.

Be similar to a middle distance runner challenging Bolt over 100. I would like to think that the sprinter shuts the middle distance runner up and tells him to cop the fook on.

Maybe the middle distance runner is explosive over 100m and we haven't seen it yet. :cool: He could shock every one :P:P

Obviously, I want the Irishman to win. I can't back against my own, no matter how irritating some MMA fans are becoming around this event.

But I am in no way taking this seriously as a "fight"... it's a product of the times we live in... x-factor meets sport!! :P

All the McGregor fanboys, want to believe this is the fight of the decade. They want to believe it's a defining moment in sport, and culture. But it's not...

If McGregor can't win (and I am 99.999999% sure he cannot win), then the best scenario in my mind... is for this fight to be a complete anti-climax... a total snoozefest... where Floyd just runs around the ring, and Conor chases him around until he gasses out. And everyone boos and whistles at how rubbish it is as a sporting spectacle!

That's the best scenario imo... and it might teach a few of the loonies, not to get so hyped up over such nonsense again in the future!

And then, hopefully Canelo vs GGG steps in to save the day a few weeks later with a great fight... and everyone gets a reminder of what a REAL sporting contest looks like...

I can dream, right? Real sports fans need some kind of hope to cling onto.... :pac: