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Do relationships with big age gaps last?

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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not sure if you have a working title for your soap opera yet but may I suggest "From swimming in debt to swimming in the sea"

    That's wrong CC. No need for that. Utterly out of order.












    It was the ocean


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    I'm sure she'll adhere to the "please give up your seat if the elderly or pregnant need it" signs on the bus :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    I don't think anyone said travelling and getting drunk are the only ways to enjoy your youth. I agree that 'going travelling' can be overrated and definitely isn't for everyone. But do we really need to outline all the ways that the carefree youth of your 20s is something valuable?

    For me, it was having the freedom to make mistakes and yes, be selfish, without fear of letting anyone down. That window between school or college, and settling down, is something you can never recreate some other way. Yes, I'm fully aware that people choose different paths, and what's for me isn't for others, and people mature at different rates, blah blah blah, but I think that period of being an educated young adult with a world of opportunity out there and no one to answer to is something everyone should aim for. I think it's Permabear's insistence that this relationship is 98% positive is what a lot of posters don't buy into.

    There's something to be said for having children young and having them grown up by the time you're late 30s/early 40s, for sure, but Permabear's girlfriend will never experience being an adult without a child to worry about. That's what would bother me.

    But hey, I turned 30 a month ago, so obviously my resentment levels have skyrocketed throughout July. Time to go for a bitterness-busting swim in the sea. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,513 ✭✭✭✭Lucyfur


    It's taken me the whole fecking day to catch up on this and I've only 2 kids. And one of them is in a friends house. I need a nanny.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Candie wrote: »
    I wonder if there's a way all men can attract beautiful women decades their junior? If only there was a YouTube video giving concise detailed instructions on how to achieve this.

    I guess we'll never know.
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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Send me two hundred of your euros in a stamped addressed envelope and I will reveal the secrets of gaming teenagers. While living in the moment as an alpha male*. No beta for you, nosirreebob. Don't delay! Send today!





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    "I'm not usually attracted to such short girls, you know"






    *drawers drop*


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Free cultist bullshite is still cultist bullshite.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Candie wrote: »
    "I'm not usually attracted to such short girls, you know"






    *drawers drop*
    *drops to knees. :D When I was about 19 a time when negs were something your granny kept in a drawer I remember a lad I knew saying to a woman "you carry it well for a big lass" and it worked. :eek: :D

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Dya want to be buried with my people?"


    Seriously, the classics are underrated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Bambi985


    Has Perma clocked out for the evening? @Mozart I take it you're on the night shift?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kimber Savory Easel


    Shelga wrote: »
    :rolleyes: I honestly haven't read one post that could be construed as misogynistic, bitter or resentful.

    Ah don't be humouring the lad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,924 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    bluewolf wrote:
    Ah don't be humouring the lad

    Who has now posted the same post from three separate accounts.

    Can someone please ring the big red Mod phone please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,924 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Methinks the re-reg troll accounts are flooding the thread in the hope of getting it closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭PandaPoo


    Wibbs wrote: »
    *drops to knees. :D When I was about 19 a time when negs were something your granny kept in a drawer I remember a lad I knew saying to a woman "you carry it well for a big lass" and it worked. :eek: :D

    "You don't sweat much for a fat bird" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    This isn't about me, it's true. It's about whether relationships with large age gaps last. A question I don't think you'll be able to truly answer affirmatively for another 20 or so years.

    As one half of your relationship, do you think getting married and having children in your early 20s is a desirable state of affairs? It just seems like a stance that is very at odds with the life you lived yourself before meeting your OH.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Meh, can't fault his determination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Shelga wrote: »
    But do we really need to outline all the ways that the carefree youth of your 20s is something valuable?

    My initial post mentioned; people are saying that a large age gap will cause a relationship break up and cost the younger one their carefree youth, that as the younger grows and changes problems will arise. Why is that different to two young adults being together?

    I met my husband when I was 17, him 18 so no age gap, but still two young adults. We got serious quickly for our age and were living together within a year. We married when I was 26. We don't feel we missed out on anything and I don't understand why it would be different for someone in an age gap relationship.

    I totally get why people might consider an age gap in the likes of permys case unusual and where worry might arise that one or the other is being taken advantage of, but "missing carefree youth" isn't really valid if the people involved don't consider being "carefree" as valuable as you do.

    I'm saying this as a bitter (possibly twisted) 33 year old. :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Wibbs wrote: »
    This will likely get deleted in the fullness but [Mod: It did]

    Oh, now you gone done it.

    Here we go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Whispered wrote: »
    I totally get why people might consider an age gap in the likes of permys case unusual and where worry might arise that one or the other is being taken advantage of, but "missing carefree youth" isn't really valid if the people involved don't consider being "carefree" as valuable as you do.

    I'm saying this as a bitter (possibly twisted) 33 year old. :pac:

    Again, very true. People have different priorities in life. But it's not the relationship, it's the kids that are the real stressor, as much happiness as they may also bring.

    The fact that Permabear admitted the last pregnancy was unplanned suggests that his girlfriend did not consider this the optimal state of affairs either. So really we are all saying much the same thing. The difference is he is going into overdrive now saying things are amazing, much-maligned talk of relaxing ocean swimming etc.

    And I wouldn't pass comment on someone's relationship usually, but his hypocritical position on 'bitter and resentful older women' has pissed me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    There's a lot to be said for a simple poll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Shelga wrote: »
    The fact that Permabear admitted the last pregnancy was unplanned suggests that his girlfriend did not consider this the optimal state of affairs either. So really we are all saying much the same thing. The difference is he is going into overdrive now saying things are amazing, much-maligned talk of relaxing ocean swimming etc.

    For us, the hardest time of our relationship was our unplanned pregnancy and the first few months of our sons life. We hit a major rocky patch, which we worked through and are now so glad things worked out as they did. I was 30 when this happened, so well beyond the "growing up" stage and we still hit a rocky patch. So if Permy and his OH are happily getting on with things then good for them in my view. It isn't easy.
    I can see why it might irk you but I can't really blame him waxing lyrical. His relationship has taken an awful beating here and he's going to defend it and make it sound as wonderful as he can. I'm sure they have their rough patches, like all of us. But you know if he said "oh yeah we argue over x,y,z" people will say "SEE TOLD YOU!!!".

    Yeah the 30's thing had me a bit taken aback too tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Whispered wrote: »
    For us, the hardest time of our relationship was our unplanned pregnancy and the first few months of our sons life. We hit a major rocky patch, which we worked through and are now so glad things worked out as they did. I was 30 when this happened, so well beyond the "growing up" stage and we still hit a rocky patch. So if Permy and his OH are happily getting on with things then good for them in my view. It isn't easy.
    I can see why it might irk you but I can't really blame him waxing lyrical. His relationship has taken an awful beating here and he's going to defend it and make it sound as wonderful as he can. I'm sure they have their rough patches, like all of us. But you know if he said "oh yeah we argue over x,y,z" people will say "SEE TOLD YOU!!!".

    Yeah the 30's thing had me a bit taken aback too tbh.

    Yep, it has taken a bit of a beating but unfortunately I'm sure he's well used to these debates by now. I hope things do work out, but honestly I don't think his relationship if 2.5 years is a good example of an age gap relationship lasting, even if she was closer to 30 than 20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I've had two children, the first at 19, the second at 32. I was more settled with my second, married, basically ticking all the boxes but found the impact much greater on my life than I did with my first. The early years with my first were definitely easier and less stressful.

    I have to commend Permabear staying in the thread despite massive criticism of his relationship. I'd have legged it ages ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    He's a permabear, not a tempbear.


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