The trial of Molly Martens

Muahahaha · 26-07-2017 3:14pm #1

Been following this for the last while. Limerick man Jason Corbett was clubbed to death in his North Carolina home by his father in law,Thomas Martens, who was a former FBI agent. Jasons wife, Molly Martens-Corbett looked on as this happened.

The father and daughters defence is that the father heard noises coming from upstairs in the house so he grabbed a baseball bat. He went upstairs to the master bedroom where he claims he saw Jason with his hands around Mollys neck threatening to kill her. His defence is that he killed Jason in self defence for him and his daughter. Forensics say that a landscape stone was also used and that his skull was badly smashed having being struck at least ten times on the head. It happened at around 3am and Jason Corbett was found dead when emergency services arrived.

The prosecution is saying that the playing of the 911 emergency tape will show that Molly and her father Thomas were very calm while Jason was dying. They will also say that neither of the accused had any marks on them that indicate Jason attacked them.

Trial is expected to last 3-4 weeks, this local newspaper seems to be a good source of the court reporting
http://www.the-dispatch.com/news/20170725/testimony-begins-in-corbett-murder-trial

wilson palacios · 26-07-2017 3:16pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Been following this for the last while. Limerick man Jason Corbett was clubbed to death in his North Carolina home by his father in law,Thomas Martens, who was a former FBI agent. Jasons wife, Molly Martens-Corbett looked on as this happened.

The father and daughters defence is that the father heard noises coming from upstairs in the house so he grabbed a baseball bat. He went upstairs to the master bedroom where he claims he saw Jason with his hands around Mollys neck threatening to kill her. His defence is that he killed Jason in self defence for him and his daughter. Forensics say that a landscape stone was also used and that his skull was badly smashed having being struck at least ten times on the head. It happened at around 3am and Jason Corbett was found dead when emergency services arrived.

The prosecution is saying that the playing of the 911 emergency tape will show that Molly and her father Thomas were very calm while Jason was dying. They will also say that neither of the accused had any marks on them that indicate Jason attacked them.

Trial is expected to last 3-4 weeks, this local newspaper seems to be a good source of the court reporting
http://www.the-dispatch.com/news/20170725/testimony-begins-in-corbett-murder-trial

Is there a podcast on it??

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 26-07-2017 3:17pm

Yes, we can read it in the papers every day this week.

Gatling · 26-07-2017 3:28pm

Did I read first responders or police officers had to ask mollly to stop repeatedly rubbing her neck . which later went on to show slight red marks

ohnonotgmail · 26-07-2017 3:44pm

Apparently the dead man had traces of his wifes sleeping tablets in his blood. very suspicious

gimli2112 · 26-07-2017 3:52pm

Read the headlines this morning. Alibi seems very weak almost nonsense. She's blonde & pretty, he's an ex-FBI agent (would have thought they could come up with a better story), seem wealthy enough. Probably not guilty verdict, unfortunately.

Shurimgreat · 26-07-2017 4:19pm

Did they intend to kill him or intend to only injure him. Striking him 11 times seems excessive. I'd imagine the first blow would render him close to unconscious. The sleeping tablets in the blood stream is very suspicious. The whole case is a bit odd.

Auldloon · 26-07-2017 4:30pm

Do the statements the children made alleging verbal and physical abuse they had witnessed by their dad towards their stepmum still stand? I'm sure I heard somewhere that those statements are being challenged but I can't find it now.

Gatling · 26-07-2017 4:39pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Did they intend to kill him or intend to only injure him. Striking him 11 times seems excessive. I'd imagine the first blow would render him close to unconscious. The sleeping tablets in the blood stream is very suspicious. The whole case is a bit odd.

Using a baseball bat and broken paving would suggest they likely intended to kill ,Vs injure

Auldloon · 26-07-2017 4:40pm

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Did they intend to kill him or intend to only injure him. Striking him 11 times seems excessive. I'd imagine the first blow would render him close to unconscious. The sleeping tablets in the blood stream is very suspicious. The whole case is a bit odd.

11 times to the head, he also had damage to his body and extremities apparently.

strandroad · 26-07-2017 4:43pm

Who knows what happened there but I can't see it being premeditated with the manner of death?

Auldloon · 26-07-2017 4:55pm

A load more info here.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/analysis/why-was-limerick-man-jason-corbett-killed-413544.html

Cervantes2 · 26-07-2017 5:41pm

I wonder did Miss Molly swing the bat and the old man is taking the fall....

Gatling · 26-07-2017 9:16pm

There already is a thread

DellyBelly · 26-07-2017 9:21pm

For me she's too hot to be guilty. Bit like that foxy knoxy in Italy will be found not guilty

Wanderer78 · 26-07-2017 9:22pm

DellyBelly wrote: »

For me she's too hot to be guilty. Bit like that foxy knoxy in Italy will be found not guilty

not too sure about that one, jebus they done some job on that chap

Lirange · 26-07-2017 9:27pm

Cervantes2 wrote: »

I wonder did Miss Molly swing the bat and the old man is taking the fall....

I think that's possible; even probable.

This bludgeoning seems done out of anger not self defence. I have doubts her father was even present in the home when the attack occurred.

Rulmeq · 26-07-2017 9:29pm

mhge wrote: »

Who knows what happened there but I can't see it being premeditated with the manner of death?

The sleeping drug was bought 3 days before, so if there's going to be pre-meditation, it would be with that.

fima · 26-07-2017 9:52pm

Auldloon wrote: »

Do the statements the children made alleging verbal and physical abuse they had witnessed by their dad towards their mum still stand? I'm sure I heard somewhere that those statements are being challenged but I can't find it now.

She was their stepmother.

Yourself isit · 26-07-2017 9:53pm

Jury member got sick looking at the photos.

myshirt · 26-07-2017 9:55pm

Apparently her uncles (FBI guys too) showed up at Jason's workplace with a "warrant" and searched the place, taking the childrens passports from a safe. They are in trouble for it.

As soon as they got those children they had to get the f#ck out of the jurisdiction that night. There was a team from this State assisting with efforts above the norm.

Some more road to go with this, real sinister feel.

Gatling · 26-07-2017 10:00pm

myshirt wrote: »

Apparently her uncles (FBI guys too) showed up at Jason's workplace with a "warrant" and searched the place, taking the childrens passports from a safe. They are in trouble for it.

As soon as they got those children they had to get the f#ck out of the jurisdiction that night. There was a team from this State assisting with efforts above the norm.

Some more road to go with this, real sinister feel.

Sure didn't her family already claim that they were told Jason was responsible for his first wife's death ,

RhubarbCrumble · 26-07-2017 10:17pm

Does anyone have a link to the other thread? I can't seem to find it.

jimmycrackcorm · 26-07-2017 10:31pm

We'll never know of it was truly self defence because they made sure he wouldn't be able to live.

Paddy Cow · 26-07-2017 10:49pm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

We'll never know of it was truly self defence because they made sure he wouldn't be able to live.

If it was self defence

1 She would have had marks on her neck where he was strangling her

2 They wouldn't have needed to batter him dead. The amount of trauma he endured he was no threat to anyone. He was hit with a bat and a paving slab.

Ursus Horribilis · 26-07-2017 10:55pm

Apparently, a police officer told her to stop repeatedly rubbing her neck. You can draw your own conclusions about that... I also wonder why was he found naked? Was he in bed asleep at the time I wonder?

Fakediamond · 26-07-2017 11:02pm

How did a paving stone end up in the bedroom? Not an item you'd normally find indoors.

RacoonQueen · 26-07-2017 11:02pm

From what I read today, her father walked into the room to see Jason with his hands round Molly's neck and he had stands of her hair in his hands - though, if true, strands of hair in his hands proves nothing...he could have pulled them out while defending himself.

Followed her crap on Facebook for a long time re: the kids. Very odd the way she was going on and on about them. Was previously lots in the papers here, from his family and friends, who had seen her 'psychotic and controlling' behaviour.

IIRC the children's statements were thrown out as it was believed they'd been coached

edit: what gets me is there is no mention of where the landscaping stone came from...I doubt they kept landscaping stones in their bedroom?

Paddy Cow · 26-07-2017 11:03pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

From what I read today, her father walked into the room to see Jason with his hands round Molly's neck and he had stands of her hair in his hands - though, if true, strands of hair in his hands proves nothing...he could have pulled them out while defending himself.

Followed her crap on Facebook for a long time re: the kids. Very odd the way she was going on and on about them. Was previously lots in the papers here, from his family and friends, who had seen her 'psychotic and controlling' behaviour.

IIRC the children's statements were thrown out as it was believed they'd been coached

Or they could have been placed there.

Donald Trump · 26-07-2017 11:29pm

As my old grandfather, the Lord have mercy on him, used to tell us as kids

"Don't stick your mickey into crazy......or if you do, give her a fake name and run far far away as soon as you can"

Given what I've read they seem as guilty as sin. Battered with a baseball bat the oul' fella claimed to have just brought the day before as a present but there are year old photos of the kid with the same bat. The victim found with traces of his wife's sleeping tablets in his system.

Although she is reasonably hot. Not hot enough though for an acquittal.

Muahahaha · 26-07-2017 11:32pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

IIRC the children's statements were thrown out as it was believed they'd been coached

Do you mean that the childrens statements are not going to be allowed into evidence before the jury? I only came across them today and they appear very damning towards Jason, saying that they saw him beat his mother up and that there was lots of arguments between them. Then the Irish Examiner says that the children made further statements on video here in Ireland that contradict the first statements.

edit: what gets me is there is no mention of where the landscaping stone came from...I doubt they kept landscaping stones in their bedroom?

Definitely a strange one alright. It was a pretty big house so quite the trip to the garden and back to get it while a fight was ongoing.

Also the fact it happened at 3am. Could Thomas Martens and his daughter colluded to attack him at this time? Or was there a genuine argument underway in the bedroom like they say? Also Thomas Martens wife was in the house too but we have heard little or nothing from her. If there was a conspiracy to kill she may be the weak link.

Lirange · 26-07-2017 11:48pm

Posters keep using the prounoun, "they." Although he's also being charged I personally suspect the assault was entirely her handiwork. He is guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury at minimum though.

mikeybrennan · 26-07-2017 11:50pm

Probably, and premeditated given the sleeping tablet

Bambi985 · 26-07-2017 11:55pm

White rich folks with FBI connections...sadly I'd say the writing's on the wall for this trial, despite her clearly being totally unstable and dangerous by the sounds of things.

lazybones32 · 27-07-2017 12:56am

I know this is the realm of fantasy but i wish there was a serum or method which would compel people to tell the truth.

Gatling · 27-07-2017 1:01am

lazybones32 wrote: »

I know this is the realm of fantasy but i wish there was a serum or method which would compel people to tell the truth.

Waterboarding or advanced interrogation techniques as used by the CIA ,

But even at that you have no guarantee you will get the truth

MarcusP12 · 27-07-2017 11:21am

latest reports says that the 2 kids were asleep in bed when the police officers arrived at the scene. They had to be woken which suggests to me that there was no commotion at the time of the incident. If he was "trying to kill her" as the defense suggests then I find it hard to believe the children would not be woken by all the screams and shouts and activity around the event. And even if they were woken, surely they would not have gone back to sleep completely oblivious of what had happened.

Seems pretty clear to me that she drugged him and killed him in his sleep....hence the lack of commotion. He can probably out cold and unable to defend himself. Seems like a big enough guy and could have done something in a life or death situation......

Seems to be unravelling as a very tragic case and no doubt there'll be a lot of dirt and accusations to muddy the water and create doubt, because that's all it takes for her to get off. Will be very interesting to see what the defense comes up with. The poor kids.....

SusieBlue · 27-07-2017 11:40am

Those poor children must be so messed up. Their mum died of an asthma attack, their dad married their nanny who became their stepmother, they moved countries and then their stepmother killed their father.
I can't even begin to imagine how traumatising that must be for those kids. To be parentless at such a young age, after all the moving about and the fact that their dad suffered such a violent death.... I only hope they're being well looked after now.

Gatling · 27-07-2017 11:52am

Read the paramedics report that said he put his hand under his head when they tried to intubate him his fingers entered his skull ,his head was that badly damaged ,
Horrific to think just hope he was unconscious through the attack

kylith · 27-07-2017 3:55pm

mikeybrennan wrote: »

Probably, and premeditated given the sleeping tablet

What casts doubt on their story, for me, is the sleeping tablet, the paving stone, and the fact that while her father claimed he had the baseball bat in his room as a gift for the son the son contradicted him by saying that he'd actually been given it the previous year, so her father would have had to go get it.

If you're going and getting weapons to beat in the head of someone with sleeping tablets in their system it does cast doubt on your 'self defense' claim. Although, I have no idea how much of the drug was in his system; which would obviously have a bearing on how out of it he was.

professore · 27-07-2017 4:38pm

MarcusP12 wrote: »

latest reports says that the 2 kids were asleep in bed when the police officers arrived at the scene. They had to be woken which suggests to me that there was no commotion at the time of the incident. If he was "trying to kill her" as the defense suggests then I find it hard to believe the children would not be woken by all the screams and shouts and activity around the event. And even if they were woken, surely they would not have gone back to sleep completely oblivious of what had happened.

Seems pretty clear to me that she drugged him and killed him in his sleep....hence the lack of commotion. He can probably out cold and unable to defend himself. Seems like a big enough guy and could have done something in a life or death situation......

Seems to be unravelling as a very tragic case and no doubt there'll be a lot of dirt and accusations to muddy the water and create doubt, because that's all it takes for her to get off. Will be very interesting to see what the defense comes up with. The poor kids.....

Yep no evidence whatsoever of a struggle from her or her father. Definitely drugged.

Gatling · 27-07-2017 4:44pm

Paramedics are saying his body was very cool when they were treating him , which odd considering they were on scene withing 10 mins,

His temperature shouldn't have been cool considering two people supposedly administrated 600 chest compressions waiting for the ambulance to arrive

kylith · 27-07-2017 4:49pm

Gatling wrote: »

Paramedics are saying his body was very cool when they were treating him , which odd considering they were on scene withing 10 mins,

His temperature shouldn't have been cool considering two people supposedly administrated 600 chest compressions waiting for the ambulance to arrive

I'm sure there was a PM which would have determined time of death based on Liver temperature.

ohnonotgmail · 27-07-2017 5:01pm

kylith wrote: »

I'm sure there was a PM which would have determined time of death based on Liver temperature.

If watching NCIS has taught me anything, and it has, they would have to take a liver temperature at the scene.

monkeybutter · 27-07-2017 5:09pm

you still would though, wouldn't you?

Gatling · 27-07-2017 5:34pm

kylith wrote: »

I'm sure there was a PM which would have determined time of death based on Liver temperature.

Depends on what happened after it he was declared dead ,it might have been left to a medical examiner as it was a criminal investigation ,
Only reading that they initially called an ambulance saying it was a heart attack,
Doesn't seem to mention any blood been found on her or her father unless I missed it

kylith · 27-07-2017 5:41pm

Gatling wrote: »

Depends on what happened after it he was declared dead ,it might have been left to a medical examiner as it was a criminal investigation ,
Only reading that they initially called an ambulance saying it was a heart attack,
Doesn't seem to mention any blood been found on her or her father unless I missed it

Really!? They're not helping themselves, are they?

monkeybutter · 27-07-2017 5:44pm

NONONO GOD NO wrote: »

NONONO GOD NO!

A complete crazy fcuker although!
I'll stick to VR reality thank you very much!

they are the best in the sack

monkeybutter · 27-07-2017 6:02pm

I still would, shed be vulnerable and dangerous as fook at the moment.

I wouldn't say your statement about escorts ireland rings totally true

lots of crazy I'd say

the problem with crazy here is that normally they can hold it together for a time

arayess · 27-07-2017 6:09pm

he was naked.

If I was thinking of beating my wife I wouldn't do it with her dad in the house or being naked.

if he was beating her , naked remember , a few smacks of the bat would have been sufficient rather than smashing his whole skull in and using a brick.

doesn't add up.
her pursuit of the kids on social media was bizarre also.

Seth Brundle · 27-07-2017 6:27pm

Gatling wrote: »

Only reading that they initially called an ambulance saying it was a heart attack,

Really?
We're they trying to stop the heart attack using a baseball bat to his head?

The trial of Molly Martens

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