Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

dastardly00 wrote: »

Question... The main picture on the Off the Ball Twitter page... What's it about? It's a photo of a man putting petrol into his car with what looks like his wife and child standing beside him.

I'm going to make a complete random guess that the young boy is a soon to be famous German footballer. I dunno why I think that!

A German fella with a Kerry accent!?





Mick O'Dwyer's Garage Waterville, Kerry 1968

Micko is the fella filling the petrol.

Tommy Walsh is a breath of fresh air on the radio...brilliant insight and analysis. Pity Newstalk lost live GAA rights

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I never claimed to. But I still think the residency rule is a joke and Ireland have underachieved on the international stage in rugby.

The Irish rugby team are the equivalent to the Galway hurling team with a good few ringers thrown in.
There are roughly the same amount of competitive international rugby teams as there is competitive county hurling teams.

But sure if people enjoy it let them off and enjoy it.
I can't understand how the ringers are embraced and the level of underachievement at national level is excused

Right..I'll bite..nobody is excusing away "underachievement" as you put it. If anything, the attitude at national level is to strive for over achievement

PeterTheNinth wrote:

What was Davy going on about when he said "There was something that needed saying a few weeks ago and there was nothing said by the RTE panel" ? Somebody mentioned that Brian Cody's ears must have been burning. But I've no idea what he is talking about.

I assume it was when Cody pushed off the linesman

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seiphil wrote:

Just another case of over-sensitive people getting offended on behalf of others.

The fact that you brought it up again at this stage, (two weeks later) makes me think that you're offended by them being offended.

Do you see yourself as over-sensitive?

Anyway, it's offensive because it's implying that someone is identifiable by a trait which is seen as demonstrative of their race.
People think because it's implying a big d*ck that sure no one would be offended but if it was a less attractive feature and someone referenced it in the same way, there'd be less confusion about whether or not it's offensive.

That's my understanding of it anyway.
Maybe the guys are somewhat PC, personally, I prefer that than going the other way. There's a difference between light hearted conversation between mates and a national radio station. Maybe that just means I'm a snowflake though, I'm not sure.

If it WAS a less attractive feature, the likelihood is McGregor wouldn't have gone there. He's not in it for that. You know the world has gone mad when a white man (Joe) is offended at a comment made towards a black man that essentially amounts to a tongue in cheek compliment. I mean for Christ sake, when I lived in the UK, I was often slagged for being a drunk paddy or potato eater etc. Not once were such comments made with any malice and I never took it upon myself to get offended. Some people.....

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The fact that you brought it up again at this stage, (two weeks later) makes me think that you're offended by them being offended.

Do you see yourself as over-sensitive?

Anyway, it's offensive because it's implying that someone is identifiable by a trait which is seen as demonstrative of their race.
People think because it's implying a big d*ck that sure no one would be offended but if it was a less attractive feature and someone referenced it in the same way, there'd be less confusion about whether or not it's offensive.

That's my understanding of it anyway.
Maybe the guys are somewhat PC, personally, I prefer that than going the other way. There's a difference between light hearted conversation between mates and a national radio station. Maybe that just means I'm a snowflake though, I'm not sure.

No, I just haven't been on this thread in a while. Quite simple really.

Do you know anybody personally offended by what he said, to who it actually relates to?

Be truthful.

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seiphil wrote:

Do you know anybody personally offended by what he said, to who it actually relates to?

I know several people who were offended by it because they understood it was an inappropriate comment.

Were they people of that race? No. But then I didn't speak to any black people about it.

Well then you don't really know how they would feel (same as me). I bet though that they would not give a sh1te. If for example Irish people were known for possessing that physical quality and a foreigner stated that he was "Irish from the waste down", I, personally, just could not be offended by that. "Hey Irishman, your people are known for having big willies". "Ooh I'm so offended by that, try again".

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Sometimes listening to Joe, you think that the primary reason for the show is for them to get offended, and sport is secondary.

I heard them trying that Kevin Kilbland's HOT TAKES again last night. That really does not work. They should drop it ..... and Kilbland while they are at it.

Agree about Joe, disagree about Kilbane.

It could be just the time of year, but Joe increasingly sounds bored to me. Sometimes even like he's not fully listening. I dunno, i used to think he was very (well, reasonably) good. These days, I automatically expect him to start any piece by pointing out a load of things that are rubbish about whatever the topic is.

Could also be that between the rugby friendly saturation, McGregor rubbish and transfer value fiasco recent months have actually been rubbish.

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I know several people who were offended by it because they understood it was an inappropriate comment.

Were they people of that race? No. But then I didn't speak to any black people about it.

So yea, people getting offended on behalf of others.

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Wrong.

They were offended that this guy (in this way) was representing Ireland on a global scale.

It's all water under the bridge at this stage, all forgotten about .No doubt the next thing to offend is only around the corner.
Personally I like Conor, I think his public persona is the polar opposite to his private life, the problem is alot of his fans try to replicate the trash talking in your face tough guy side of Conor's character, which is completely put on, but i'm afraid some of his fans don't see that and they feel its ok to act like him.
Wasn't Mohammad Ali one of the first to drag trash talking into the sport, some of it was quite nasty, in particular some of the insults he directed towards Joe Frazier. Something he regretted later in life. We all make mistakes , l think theses days a mistake is jumped on and magnified and blown out of porportion just to suit an agenda, indeed a mistake can end a person's career. We seem to be out to get people and take them down at all costs.

Jesus, can the word 'snowflake' be put out to pasture until it actually starts snowing again.

Does it make me a snowflake that it immediately makes me think someone is a tosser if they use the term derogatorily?

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

They seem to have a different standard for all their Rugger Bugger pals though... When they had their most recent love in, I heard one story where there was some small guy called Fitzy who played for the opposition, and he was assaulted by a number of their players. And jaysus it was a great laugh. Neither Joe nor Ger were prepared to interrupt all the banter with one of their usual self righteous remarks, presumably wary of getting a belt from one of the bullies themselves.

I do find the difference in tone used towards certain interviewees a bit grating.

Davey Fitzgerald and Joe Brolly are two that I thought got a very easy ride recently.

JNLR

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