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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,776 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    I tried to explain that if every time you cycle you react to every incident then you will be permanently on edge and stressed. Far better to anticipate and take avoiding action.
    Far better to anticipate, take avoiding action AND let the person who caused it know what the did.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Unless you're a Guard, you've no business going around policing other road users and are just asking for confrontation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    Unless you're a Guard, you've no business going around policing other road users and are just asking for confrontation.

    This is BS, if you see someone on the phone while driving or cycling, or doing something that may not only endanger you but other road users you are far within your right to ask them to stop. The "keep the head down, sure it'll be grand mentality" is infuriating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Unless you're a Guard, you've no business going around policing other road users and are just asking for confrontation.

    It's not policing to ask people not to endanger my life. It's self-preservation. And if we live in an Ireland where asking someone to keep me safe risks their assaulting me, then I don't want to live here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    Far better to anticipate, take avoiding action AND let the person who caused it know what the did.

    I don't think so.

    I am doing my present commute across town for last 11 years. First year or 2 I was going to correct all driver behaviour, point out politely where they may have made a mistake and we would all learn from the experience.

    It never happened like this. Nearly every interaction ended in one or other of us shouting and losing the head.

    Now I simply enjoy my cycling and cycle in a manner that dosent put me in any danger or confrontational situations. There are always exceptions of course but I try to stay calm, put it down to experience, hopefully learn from it and move on.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Aside from the fact that you've no right to be policing other road users, a.) 90 percent of these self-appointed horn blowers and window tappers are usually in the wrong themselves about what the law is; b.) you're creating a hazardous situation by initiating a confrontation because you and the person you're engaging with are no longer concentrating on the road; and c.) these confrontations rarely end amicably.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Aside from the fact that you've no right to be policing other road users, a.) 90 percent of these self-appointed horn blowers and window tappers are usually in the wrong themselves about what the law is; b.) you're creating a hazardous situation by initiating a confrontation because you and the person you're engaging with are no longer concentrating on the road; and c.) these confrontations rarely end amicably.

    90% eh? :):D;)

    No, if I window-tap it's when the driver is stopped, and I'll say politely that they passed me awfully close back there, I'm sure they didn't realise; in my experience, hardly any such interaction results in rudeness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Roadhawk


    This fella is good for the confrontation. One day he will meet the wrong person!

    https://www.youtube.com/user/CycleDub/videos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,776 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Unless you're a Guard, you've no business going around policing other road users and are just asking for confrontation.
    How did you jump from "let the person who caused it know what they did" to 'policing other road users'? I didn't suggest issueing fines or locking anyone up - just a simple conversation between two adults.
    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    It never happened like this. Nearly every interaction ended in one or other of us shouting and losing the head.
    Honestly, that says more about you than it does about the other guys.
    Aside from the fact that you've no right to be policing other road users, a.) 90 percent of these self-appointed horn blowers and window tappers are usually in the wrong themselves about what the law is; b.) you're creating a hazardous situation by initiating a confrontation because you and the person you're engaging with are no longer concentrating on the road; and c.) these confrontations rarely end amicably.

    My experience differs considerably.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Roadhawk wrote: »
    This fella is good for the confrontation. One day he will meet the wrong person!

    https://www.youtube.com/user/CycleDub/videos

    Let's not go down this road :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭Fian


    Seaswimmer wrote: »

    We were discussing this after and she explained it was out of fear that made her react like this.

    This is the crucial line in that post imo. When you have just been put in fear of your life or just even given a start it is not so easy to react calmly and rationally. None of the incidents sound dramatic but it sounds as if there was one of her first cycles and she was probably already at a high state of nerves just from sharing the road with cars. Easy to forget what that is like when you are starting off. If you are cycling along going "I am in danger of dying, I am in danger of dying" then even a slight additional risk can probably tip you over the edge of temper.

    Close passes, or a lesser road altercation when I am almost home after a long cycle (so low blood sugar/hangry), are the occasions when I am liable to lose my temper. In the rest of my life I am calm, I do not have a temper (again hangry being an exception) but in those moments I not only don't care if the confrontation descends into violence I am probably subconsciously almost hoping it will.

    Not at all like my usual self but adrenaline, cortisol and low blood sugar have powerful effects on temperment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,180 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Fian wrote: »
    In the rest of my life I am calm, I do not have a temper (again hangry being an exception) but in those moments I not only don't care if the confrontation descends into violence I am probably subconsciously almost hoping it will.
    OK OK, you can have my Twix! Just don't hurt me! :pac:

    On the subject of window-tapping, I don't do it, but this morning a driver turned left across me into an entrance, flicking the indicator just as he turned the wheel, as I was passing on the left in very slow/stopped traffic.

    I braked hard and stopped, maybe lightly touching the left of the car with the gloved knuckles of right hand, and calmly waited to see which way he would move so I could proceed.

    There was another cyclist behind me who rapped on the rear window and gave out to the driver. I think he thought he was being helpful, but I felt like chum in a shark pool. Leave me out of it!

    In my experience if I'm calm enough to not shout I'm calm enough to just go on my way without more than a aspirationally-Italian-but-probably-just-dorky flick of the forearm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Had one on the Tayto park to Rathfeigh road again yesterday, had stopped already to let two cars pass as different locations when a BMW roared past me with inches to spare.

    Scary listening to the stats on mobile phone use in cars on Newstalk today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭TheJak01


    Nearly knocked off twice by the same clown today. Cycling towards town on Rochestown Avenue, which is a narrow enough road at the best of times, some lad in a gold car with a flag hanging out the side passes me all of about 4 inches away and then proceeds to pull closer to the edge of the road as he's alongside me nearly putting me into the overgrowth at the side of the road. He was so close the supporters flag was practically waving in my face.

    I caught him at the set of lights at bakers corner and decided to heed my lesson from the first time. I cycled a good extra meter into the lane than I normally do so that I couldn't get squeezed. There were a number of cars between me and him, that passed me without problems as it's a fairly wide road and there was no traffic coming the other way. Of course, my friend decides to pass me at a similar distance to the first time, so I begin to move towards the curb to try give myself some sort of space. He follows me to the left of the lane, and then takes a left turn as I'm on his back wheel. Thankfully I was on the brakes anyway as I was about to hit the side of the road, but the guy crosses in front of me with inches between us as I'm skidding to a stop.

    I'm a little annoyed that I didn't follow him as he can only have been going another 100 meters before getting out. Had I not been aware of him due to his previous ridiculous pass he'd genuinely have run me down. Maybe it's time to invest in a camera, maybe I should have followed him and reported the reg to traffic watch, or maybe I'd have been warranted giving him a piece of my mind (I was fuming, still am). Either he didn't see me, or he didn't care, twice. Once I can almost let go as a mistake, obviously there's no excuse but it doesn't make you an immediate danger to everybody else, but if he's passing other cyclists the way he did me today it's only a matter of time before somebody ends up under his wheels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Unless you're a Guard, you've no business going around policing other road users and are just asking for confrontation.

    If Johnny on the stool next to you has six pints and then stumbles out into his car, would you not call the Gardai?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    TheJak01 wrote: »
    Nearly knocked off twice by the same clown today. Cycling towards town on Rochestown Avenue, which is a narrow enough road at the best of times, some lad in a gold car with a flag hanging out the side passes me all of about 4 inches away and then proceeds to pull closer to the edge of the road as he's alongside me nearly putting me into the overgrowth at the side of the road. He was so close the supporters flag was practically waving in my face.

    I caught him at the set of lights at bakers corner and decided to heed my lesson from the first time. I cycled a good extra meter into the lane than I normally do so that I couldn't get squeezed. There were a number of cars between me and him, that passed me without problems as it's a fairly wide road and there was no traffic coming the other way. Of course, my friend decides to pass me at a similar distance to the first time, so I begin to move towards the curb to try give myself some sort of space. He follows me to the left of the lane, and then takes a left turn as I'm on his back wheel. Thankfully I was on the brakes anyway as I was about to hit the side of the road, but the guy crosses in front of me with inches between us as I'm skidding to a stop.

    I'm a little annoyed that I didn't follow him as he can only have been going another 100 meters before getting out. Had I not been aware of him due to his previous ridiculous pass he'd genuinely have run me down. Maybe it's time to invest in a camera, maybe I should have followed him and reported the reg to traffic watch, or maybe I'd have been warranted giving him a piece of my mind (I was fuming, still am). Either he didn't see me, or he didn't care, twice. Once I can almost let go as a mistake, obviously there's no excuse but it doesn't make you an immediate danger to everybody else, but if he's passing other cyclists the way he did me today it's only a matter of time before somebody ends up under his wheels.

    Maybe he did see you and decided to try to push you off the road?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    ED E wrote: »
    If Johnny on the stool next to you has six pints and then stumbles out into his car, would you not call the Gardai?

    That's my point. Call the guards and report it to them rather than getting into a confrontation yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,180 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    ED E wrote: »
    If Johnny on the stool next to you has six pints and then stumbles out into his car, would you not call the Gardai?

    Calling the Gardai is not the same as policing other road users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    In my experience, the Gardaí don't care when you report drink drivers. Have called them at least 4 times and no follow up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Roadhawk


    That's my point. Call the guards and report it to them rather than getting into a confrontation yourself.

    By the time the Gardai respond Johnny will be well asleep in bed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Roadhawk


    Borderfox wrote: »
    In my experience, the Gardaon't care when you report drink drivers. Have called them at least 4 times and no follow up.

    Exactly. Tell them you think you saw the person have a gun. Watch how they respond then


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Lumen wrote: »
    Calling the Gardai is not the same as policing other road users.

    GET READY TO DIE!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    TheJak01 wrote: »
    Nearly knocked off twice by the same clown today. Cycling towards town on Rochestown Avenue, which is a narrow enough road at the best of times, some lad in a gold car with a flag hanging out the side passes me all of about 4 inches away and then proceeds to pull closer to the edge of the road as he's alongside me nearly putting me into the overgrowth at the side of the road. He was so close the supporters flag was practically waving in my face.

    I caught him at the set of lights at bakers corner and decided to heed my lesson from the first time. I cycled a good extra meter into the lane than I normally do so that I couldn't get squeezed. There were a number of cars between me and him, that passed me without problems as it's a fairly wide road and there was no traffic coming the other way. Of course, my friend decides to pass me at a similar distance to the first time, so I begin to move towards the curb to try give myself some sort of space. He follows me to the left of the lane, and then takes a left turn as I'm on his back wheel. Thankfully I was on the brakes anyway as I was about to hit the side of the road, but the guy crosses in front of me with inches between us as I'm skidding to a stop.

    I'm a little annoyed that I didn't follow him as he can only have been going another 100 meters before getting out. Had I not been aware of him due to his previous ridiculous pass he'd genuinely have run me down. Maybe it's time to invest in a camera, maybe I should have followed him and reported the reg to traffic watch, or maybe I'd have been warranted giving him a piece of my mind (I was fuming, still am). Either he didn't see me, or he didn't care, twice. Once I can almost let go as a mistake, obviously there's no excuse but it doesn't make you an immediate danger to everybody else, but if he's passing other cyclists the way he did me today it's only a matter of time before somebody ends up under his wheels.
    That sounds malicious.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    No near miss today. I hit a car today. 100% my fault. I was behind and just shy of enough space for stopping. It was a very slow impact.

    I went around to the window and the driver apologised. I explained it was my faulf and that they should pull into make sure I didn't do any damage to the bumper. They pulled in and said it was their fault for indicating as they were turning. I said that didn't matter, I was too close to stop in time. They said, not at all, we are in a town and everyone drives to close together, definetly their fault. I asked them to get out and inspect the bonnet, make sure they were happy there was no damage.

    I swear we nearly fell out over who was at fault (and it was definetly me). No point giving out if I can't accept my own faults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Borderfox wrote: »
    In my experience, the Gardaí don't care when you report drink drivers. Have called them at least 4 times and no follow up.

    I still remember calling the Gardaí as I was looking down from a building in Dublin city centre at two well-dressed businessmen supporting a third to his car. The two on the outside were weaving back and forth; they were more or less dragging the other, who had his key pointed forwards. They planted him at the car and the three of them managed to get the key into the car door. Then the outside two poured the other into the driver's seat and he foostered around for quite a while before driving off.

    The whole thing took, I suppose, ten or fifteen minutes. We were steps from O'Connell Street and from Store Street. No sign of a garda by the time your man weaves off into the traffic, maybe half an hour from the beginning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    I assure you i wouldn't lie about it...these encounters are rare enough, so it's good to acknowledge them.

    I don't think it's that rare, I've had plenty of people apologise to me by gesture or otherwise.

    It's just you don't see people posting about it much.

    These days I'd say 99 out of 100 vehicles are giving me loads of space when they pass. Not sure if it is due to all the recent cycling stuff in the news, or the fact I am using some very good lights when I am out cycling, even during the day, during summer.

    That aside, it's just that one asshole who will ruin your day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭LpPepper


    Not an entire "near miss" per se but received a threat of violence and abuse from this lovely person a few weeks ago.

    He tried to overtake me and then cut across into the supermarket car park having flicked his left indicator on then I asked him outstraight if he was blind.

    He then proceeded to let me know he would smash my face in. Having gone past his destination to threaten me he turned around further ahead and called names like a child again sticking his head out the window, funny!

    Don't know whether to send to the Garda or not.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Roadhawk wrote: »
    This fella is good for the confrontation. One day he will meet the wrong person!

    https://www.youtube.com/user/CycleDub/videos
    The hero Dublin deserves, but not the one it needs right now...

    My right arm gets almost as much of a workout when cycling as it does when using it for other dangerous activities; gesticulating to cars to keep right when passing. Most irritating is when the entire opposite lane is free on a straight stretch of road. Mind boggling stupidity and ignorance on behalf of the motorist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    LpPepper wrote: »
    Not an entire "near miss" per se but received a threat of violence and abuse from this lovely person a few weeks ago.

    He tried to overtake me and then cut across into the supermarket car park having flicked his left indicator on then I asked him outstraight if he was blind.

    He then proceeded to let me know he would smash my face in. Having gone past his destination to threaten me he turned around further ahead and called names like a child again sticking his head out the window, funny!

    Don't know whether to send to the Garda or not.


    He went to the effort of turning around, perhaps he was serious, I would report it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    LpPepper wrote: »
    Not an entire "near miss" per se but received a threat of violence and abuse from this lovely person a few weeks ago.

    He tried to overtake me and then cut across into the supermarket car park having flicked his left indicator on then I asked him outstraight if he was blind.

    He then proceeded to let me know he would smash my face in. Having gone past his destination to threaten me he turned around further ahead and called names like a child again sticking his head out the window, funny!

    Don't know whether to send to the Garda or not.


    In such a hurry to do his shopping and then goes to all that trouble to threaten you. Hmm. That’s some reaction to “are you blind”, I’ve been cut off like that before and shouted far worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,776 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I swear we nearly fell out over who was at fault (and it was definetly me). No point giving out if I can't accept my own faults.



  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭coward


    I’m always wary of trucks - give them a wide berth - and yet I let this happen to me. I should have anticipated their move sooner instead of having to abandon to the path at the last moment. Their indicator is obvious to see. I always think I can learn more anticipation skills etc. from watching videos - so here’s my mistake from this morning:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    coward wrote: »
    I’m always wary of trucks - give them a wide berth - and yet I let this happen to me. I should have anticipated their move sooner instead of having to abandon to the path at the last moment. Their indicator is obvious to see. I always think I can learn more anticipation skills etc. from watching videos - so here’s my mistake from this morning:


    There's a lot of construction vehicles around the city now the "de doom" is back. I work in the industry and I can guarantee you that a lot of these don't give a jot about other road users, in particular cyclists. I'd treat them with extreme caution.

    Had a close pass from a Windows van this morning in Castleknock, to get to a red light, followed by aggressive tailgating by him to try and get past me though the castleknock gates when the lights went red - he'd planted himself in the advance bike box. Held my line center of the road, but he would have happily squeezed by me at the gates. Further down the quays builders truck full of pipes in the bus lane - 2 wheels in the cycle lane. Squeezed the corner at Capel Street - anyone there was toast.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,510 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    close pass from a Windows van
    at least if it crashed, you'd probably just need to reboot it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    at least if it crashed, you'd probably just need to reboot it.

    Tomorrow for balance it'll be an IOS van


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    I nearly have my linux van built. Just waiting for a driver upgrade...


  • Registered Users Posts: 884 ✭✭✭eclipsechaser


    Is that not terrible driving from the truck too? He swings into the cycle lane when crossing from the other side of the road. He could easily have knocked you down there. He needs to be 100% sure the lane is clear if he's going to swing into it. The fact that he turns left without hesitation very shortly afterwards suggests he never saw you at any time during those manoeuvres.

    Obviously, you should still not have gone up the inside.

    coward wrote: »
    I’m always wary of trucks - give them a wide berth - and yet I let this happen to me. I should have anticipated their move sooner instead of having to abandon to the path at the last moment. Their indicator is obvious to see. I always think I can learn more anticipation skills etc. from watching videos - so here’s my mistake from this morning:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Is that not terrible driving from the truck too? He swings into the cycle lane when crossing from the other side of the road. He could easily have knocked you down there. He needs to be 100% sure the lane is clear if he's going to swing into it. The fact that he turns left without hesitation very shortly afterwards suggests he never saw you at any time during those manoeuvres.

    Obviously, you should still not have gone up the inside.

    Yes, it was terrible driving. Driver should have checked his left mirror before turning left anyway, and the cyclist isn't in a blindspot as far as I can tell. But as the cyclist said themselves, they should have slowed and let the truck on its way.

    Has anyone had any issues with motorbikes close passing? There's this one chap, who I think has it out for me. There's a hill near the start of my commute which is poorly surfaced on the edges on both sides. I take a relatively central position in the lane on the way down. It's a wide, quiet road with little on-coming traffic. But routinely this f*cker passes me super close. He had a go at me months back for taking the lane, I tried my best to explain my reasoning at the time but clearly he doesn't give crap. I might put a compilation together of his antics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,846 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Yes, it was terrible driving. Driver should have checked his left mirror before turning left anyway, and the cyclist isn't in a blindspot as far as I can tell. But as the cyclist said themselves, they should have slowed and let the truck on its way.

    Has anyone had any issues with motorbikes close passing? There's this one chap, who I think has it out for me. There's a hill near the start of my commute which is poorly surfaced on the edges on both sides. I take a relatively central position in the lane on the way down. It's a wide, quiet road with little on-coming traffic. But routinely this f*cker passes me super close. He had a go at me months back for taking the lane, I tried my best to explain my reasoning at the time but clearly he doesn't give crap. I might put a compilation together of his antics.

    Yeah I've had another thicko close passing me 2 times on the way to work ( and I was in the cycle lane ). Caught him at the lights and told him he was on camera ( he wasn't ), to which he inquired "WHAT THE FUUUU ARE YOU SH1TING ABOUT??!!!!".


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭VW 1


    I've got an issue with motorbikes driving in this cycle lane along Kevin street, and then on up towards Stephens green in order to filter up the inside of traffic

    Find it frustrating when they get to a point that they cannot pass a car or vehicle and end up clocking up the cycle lane.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    VW 1 wrote: »
    I've got an issue with motorbikes driving in this cycle lane along Kevin street, and then on up towards Stephens green in order to filter up the inside of traffic

    Find it frustrating when they get to a point that they cannot pass a car or vehicle and end up clocking up the cycle lane.

    Frequently full of vans too.

    Become a nuisance at the garda station there and they might start acting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭VW 1


    I was running to work this morning, garda van pulled out of a gateway at the station but were unable to filter straight away into traffic. They sat there blocking both the bike lane and the path until they could move into the driving lane.

    They are as bad as other road users in my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,776 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    VW 1 wrote: »
    I was running to work this morning, garda van pulled out of a gateway at the station but were unable to filter straight away into traffic. They sat there blocking both the bike lane and the path until they could move into the driving lane.

    They are as bad as other road users in my experience.

    It's amazing (and infuriating) how many motorists don't give a second thought to blocking paths, cycle tracks, cycle junctions (particularly at the bridges along the Grand Canal, with large numbers of cyclists crossing ) and pedestrian crossings. It's like everyone else are second class citizens to some.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,510 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's the 'where else am i supposed to park?' mentality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    ED E wrote: »
    Become a nuisance at the garda station there and they might start acting.
    Love/Hate is finished. Red Rock is still going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Had a lovely one this morning. Portmarnock to Baldoyle road, I was taking the lane around a blind bend and this fool decides to chance an overtake. And of course a car comes around the bend from the other direction causing the fool to jam on and return in behind me. Queue me F'ing and shouting (in hindsight probably not the best reaction). They overtake successfully and jam on to have a chat. It ended up being more of a chat than an argument, although they were completely blocking the narrow road. Of course I was to blame for their foolish overtake, I told them what I thought of that and took off. Some people should not be on the road. This was one of them. :mad:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Love/Hate is finished. Red Rock is still going.

    Regrettably that took me a minute before I realised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭NeedMoreGears


    Had a lovely one this morning. Portmarnock to Baldoyle road.... :mad:

    It wasn't a white beamer by any chance? I had a dumb one on the long straight through Portmarnock just after the golf links - beamer goes flying past me - well over the 50km limit, in my estimate) and then jams on to avoid speed bumps and slow moving traffic ahead. He (she?) didn't come that close but the speed was a concern


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    It wasn't a white beamer by any chance? I had a dumb one on the long straight through Portmarnock just after the golf links - beamer goes flying past me - well over the 50km limit, in my estimate) and then jams on to avoid speed bumps and slow moving traffic ahead. He (she?) didn't come that close but the speed was a concern

    Not the same one, they were driving an old green 99ish Toyota Starlet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭NeedMoreGears


    Not the same one, they were driving an old green 99ish Toyota Starlet.

    Glad you're ok in any event


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