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Would we all agree that Joan Rivers was the best Comedienne of all time

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    I thought she was brilliant; a biting wit, but she was most biting when referencing herself. My stomach would hurt after listening to one of her routines and there aren't many comedians, male or female, who have that effect on me.

    In terms of comediennes, I also think Ellen Degeneres is a great stand-up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Joan was hilarious. The best one I seen from her was when she managed to get a recipe into the Homestead Charity Cookbook here in Ireland.

    "This recipe has been in my family for years'

    and they actually published it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Of all time? So you have heard every comedienne that ever lived even before television or radio were invented? What's your secret to such a long life?

    It's just his opinion. He's entitled to anyone he chooses. If your so desperate to attack the guy like some of the other posters at least give a proper counter argument as to why his opinion is wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    She was a great of comedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭OU812


    She was good but sometimes went a bit too far with the insulting. The clip above with the heckler (who I don't think was heckling, he was objecting), for example, I think she panicked slightly & just kept talking until she could get back on track.

    I like Iliza Shlesinger, Chelsea Peretti & in particular Natasha Leggero as three prime female comedians (although I don't think gender should identify them, they're either a comedian or not. I'm actually using spotify more for comedy (some of the greats of the 70s have old comedy albums up there) these days.

    Rivers was a pioneer in the early days when there were almost no females in the industry & deserves recognition for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    It's just his opinion. He's entitled to anyone he chooses. If your so desperate to attack the guy like some of the other posters at least give a proper counter argument as to why his opinion is wrong.
    Don't get your knickers in a twist over it, he said of all time in our time would've been a better choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    I thought she was woeful shite. She was especially shite in her later years when insulting young female actresses while looking like she had absolutely none of her original face left.

    In fairness, that was half the joke and the things she said about herself were oftentimes equally as bad as what she said about others.
    Howard Stern always said she was the Queen of the one liners.

    "If you don't want gays in the military make the uniforms ugly."

    "At my age an affair of the heart is a bypass."

    "My best birth control is just to leave the lights on."

    "All babies look like Rene Zellweger pushed against a window"

    "I've had so much plastic surgery that when I die I'll donate my body to Tupperware."

    Some gems there alright and also love the one on Graham Norton about Vanessa Feltz (3mins in).




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,960 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Outrageously funny and didn't care one jot what others thought of her. Saw her live in the Olympia about 14 years ago and she had everyone in convulsions.

    I miss her! Current comedians could learn from her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    I remember one line from her not sure where I heard it

    She was talking about some red carpet event in which someone had worn the same dress she wore at another event

    "that dress has seen more red carpets than an Irish lesbian"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    sabat wrote: »
    I've never heard her make a single witty or insightful remark; just insulting people doesn't take a whole lot of talent. Probably the only thing that she was involved with that made me laugh was her cameo as herself in Louis, but that was down to Louis CK.

    Is she funnier than Karl Spain? He be on about riding peoples mothers and eating biscuits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Don't get your knickers in a twist over it, he said of all time in our time would've been a better choice.


    the best female comedian post vaudeville. is that precise enough for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    There are of course exceptions to the rule and Rivers was one, being very funny, but in general women are less funny than men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Knew nothing about her but calling her the "best of all time" was certainly a recommendation to change that. So I went on you tube and the first thing I found was "An Audience With Joan Rivers 1983".

    She started out with a "She is so fat that when she....." type joke and it just got worse from there really. Not a single funny moment or joke in the whole event. The closest it got to funny was her joke justification for wearing a fur coat, which is that she sourced one based on the animals having heart attacks rather than being killed for the coat.

    So if the "best of all time" is based on some other lengthy example of stand up that someone could recommend I will give it a second chance and sit though it, but not feeling hopeful so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    She was a hateful bitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    That fashion police show was hilarious. Mainly due to seething hatred the participants had for each other, boiling just under the surface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭PandaPoo


    That fashion police show was hilarious. Mainly due to seething hatred the participants had for each other, boiling just under the surface.

    Whenever I watched it, which was maybe 5 times, it seemed like the rest of them were fake laughing at everything Joan said. Not even convincingly.


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