Would we all agree that Joan Rivers was the best Comedienne of all time

DEFTLEFTHAND · 23-07-2017 01:47AM #1

People say women aren't funny. Joan must have been an outlier.

I watched a vid of her standup tonight with friends. I was literally nearly throwing up at one stage I was laughing so hard.

She crushed all this PC snowflake agenda which exists today in comedy. It's fcking satire not real sentiment.

When I hear the likes of Chris Rock saying he won't play Uni campuses I think what a pansy. Be like Joan, fck them and their fragile sensibilities. It's not our fault that they can't get their rabbit brains around the concept of satire and showmanship.

Ol' Donie · 23-07-2017 01:54AM

Don't agree at all that chicks aren't funny. June Diane Raphael on How Did This Get Made? is hilarious.

What was the name of that, I'll give it a watch.

annascott · 23-07-2017 01:57AM

OP, Did you ever hear her talk about Adele? Hilarious but at the time the PC brigade slated her for it. Satire is satire.
This was only a few weeks before she died.

https://youtu.be/ONQ0LFKAlCM

23-07-2017 02:00AM

She was hilarious.

It's sad that she won't get recognised, on the internet at least, because she wasn't sympathetic enough to the Palestinians. She was same age most of our grannies would have been when they died she said those things.

She's funny regardless.

Outlaw Pete · 23-07-2017 02:04AM

Loved her. Seen her in Vicar St end of 2012 and she was amazing.

RayM · 23-07-2017 02:08AM

I remember seeing her on Michael Parkinson's show, talking about her sad childhood and struggles with her body image. She went on to say that her first sexual experience was a rape. The audience went very quiet and then she said, "oh it's ok, he didn't press charges".

Noveight · 23-07-2017 02:12AM

She was hilarious. I love how she was genuinely edgy as fúck, many so-called "divisive" comedians end up looking like try-hards.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 23-07-2017 02:15AM

Noveight wrote: »

She was hilarious. I love how she was genuinely edgy as fúck, many so-called "divisive" comedians end up looking like try-hards.

She was 'edgy' before 'edgy' became a thing.

A free spirit who constantly pushed boundaries.

Arsemageddon · 23-07-2017 02:28AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

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She crushed all this PC snowflake agenda which exists today in comedy. It's fcking satire not real sentiment.

Yes, Joan Rivers was brilliant.

However, if you think she shared some agenda with you about crushing 'PC snowflakes' then you seem to have missed the point. She was an equal opportunities piss-taker, she'd have eaten the likes of you for breakfast. It's a bit similar to people liking Al Murray because they don't realise he is being ironic.

By the by, what is this 'agenda in comedy today' of which you speak?

Junkyard Tom · 23-07-2017 02:32AM

Funny how?

Benrobjohn · 23-07-2017 02:34AM

Where do we stand with eddie izzard??

DEFTLEFTHAND · 23-07-2017 02:41AM

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Yes, Joan Rivers was brilliant.

However, if you think she shared some agenda with you about crushing 'PC snowflakes' then you seem to have missed the point. She was an equal opportunities piss-taker, she'd have eaten the likes of you for breakfast. It's a bit similar to people liking Al Murray because they don't realise he is being ironic.

By the by, what is this 'agenda in comedy today' of which you speak?

Research the reasons why George Carlin didn't want to play uni campuses in the last months of his life or why Rock and Jerry Seinfeld don't want play them today.

People take offence to jokes/routines. They no longer understand what satire is.

Arsemageddon · 23-07-2017 02:57AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Research the reasons why George Carlin didn't want to play uni campuses in the last months of his life or why Rock and Jerry Seinfeld don't want play them today.

People take offence to jokes/routines. They no longer understand what satire is.

First off, googling something about pop-culture is not 'research'.

Secondly, there is a whole world that exists outside of American college campuses. I don't live in America, I didn't go to college in America and like most people I couldn't give a flying fvck what a tiny group of idiotic students in America think.

AllGunsBlazing · 23-07-2017 03:20AM

She's on par with George Carlin, Lenny Bruce and Richard Pryor. Razor sharp and brutally honest.

sabat · 23-07-2017 03:27AM

I've never heard her make a single witty or insightful remark; just insulting people doesn't take a whole lot of talent. Probably the only thing that she was involved with that made me laugh was her cameo as herself in Louis, but that was down to Louis CK.

davycc · 23-07-2017 03:30AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

People say women aren't funny. Joan must have been an outlier.

I watched a vid of her standup tonight with friends. I was literally nearly throwing up at one stage I was laughing so hard.

She crushed all this PC snowflake agenda which exists today in comedy. It's fcking satire not real sentiment.

When I hear the likes of Chris Rock saying he won't play Uni campuses I think what a pansy. Be like Joan, fck them and their fragile sensibilities. It's not our fault that they can't get their rabbit brains around the concept of satire and showmanship.

She is about as funny and original as Mrs Brown's to me , ie both sh1te!

DEFTLEFTHAND · 23-07-2017 03:34AM

Howard Stern always said she was the Queen of the one liners.

"If you don't want gays in the military make the uniforms ugly."

"At my age an affair of the heart is a bypass."

"My best birth control is just to leave the lights on."

"All babies look like Rene Zellweger pushed against a window"

"I've had so much plastic surgery that when I die I'll donate my body to Tupperware."

RayM · 23-07-2017 03:34AM

Benrobjohn wrote: »

Where do we stand with eddie izzard??

On his windpipe, ideally.

Outlaw Pete · 23-07-2017 03:38AM

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

She's on par with George Carlin, Lenny Bruce and Richard Pryor. Razor sharp and brutally honest.

Yeah, she was still sharp on stage even in her later years. Here she is dealing with a heckler not too long before she died:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAD-ky3TYQk

Arsemageddon wrote: »

However, if you think she shared some agenda with you about crushing 'PC snowflakes' then you seem to have missed the point.

Ah in fairness now, she hated political correctness and when I seen her she had ten or fifteen minutes of material on how liberals needed to be thicker skinned today and stop getting offended on other's behalf all the time. So much of her material was jumped on by liberals in fact and she would end up having to defend it almost on a weekly basis (especially stuff she would say on that celeb Fashion review show she presented). Here's an interview with her where she touches on some of that (from 4mins in):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rna2dYBwlc

AllForIt · 23-07-2017 03:39AM

She was sharp as f*ck , but I didn't like her as a person.

PandaPoo · 23-07-2017 05:50AM

I don't think I've ever watched a clip of her being interviewed, or her stand up and thought she was funny.

I don't think I ever will. I hope I'm proved wrong though.

Irish Guitarist · 23-07-2017 07:38AM

I thought she was woeful shite. She was especially shite in her later years when insulting young female actresses while looking like she had absolutely none of her original face left.

Turtyturd · 23-07-2017 07:54AM

Wasn't she just a celebrity version of the person we all know who thinks they are the only one who tells it like it is but everyone really just thinks they're a c*nt?

Fair play to the OP for shoe horning snowflake into the conversation to show how much of a man he is.

23-07-2017 07:56AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

She crushed all this PC snowflake agenda which exists today in comedy. It's fcking satire not real sentiment.

When I hear the likes of Chris Rock saying he won't play Uni campuses I think what a pansy. Be like Joan, fck them and their fragile sensibilities. It's not our fault that they can't get their rabbit brains around the concept of satire and showmanship.

I have to laugh at you championing her for being edgy and pushing boundaries and for disparaging the snowflakes and PC brigade when you yourself were absolutely appalled and using the word bigot only yesterday at the thoughts of someone laughing at jokes at the expense of the Catholic Church.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Bet he thinks he's a great lad altogether mocking the clergy and referring to Priests as Paedos.

Tell the bigot to think of something original.

You should take your own advice and be like Joan and fck your fragile sensibilities. I see you thanked a rape joke too. Hypocrite

Turtyturd · 23-07-2017 08:01AM

Brilliant

Barry Badrinath · 23-07-2017 08:07AM

No, I wouldnt agree.

23-07-2017 08:25AM

Her joke about 9/11 should go down in comedy history.

Can't say I enjoyed her full routine, a little too fixed on certain themes, but do agree she was possibly the best comedienne ever.

Funnier than Shappi Khorsandi anyway...but who isn't.

The Bishop Basher · 23-07-2017 08:58AM

I have zero time for political correctness and I'm a little bit too old to be considered snowflake but comedians who have to belittle others to make themselves funny just aren't funny..

Slagging Edel over her weight isn't clever or witty. It's immature, sad and pathetic..

It's not even close to humour..

23-07-2017 09:20AM

Swanner wrote: »

I have zero time for political correctness and I'm a little bit too old to be considered snowflake but comedians who have to belittle others to make themselves funny just aren't funny..

Slagging Edel over her weight isn't clever or witty. It's immature, sad and pathetic..

It's not even close to humour..

What was funny was Adam Hills wading in to defend Adele...by referring to Joan Rivers' own appearance.

Clearly irony is lost on him.

Sam Kade · 23-07-2017 09:26AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

People say women aren't funny. Joan must have been an outlier.

I watched a vid of her standup tonight with friends. I was literally nearly throwing up at one stage I was laughing so hard.

She crushed all this PC snowflake agenda which exists today in comedy. It's fcking satire not real sentiment.

When I hear the likes of Chris Rock saying he won't play Uni campuses I think what a pansy. Be like Joan, fck them and their fragile sensibilities. It's not our fault that they can't get their rabbit brains around the concept of satire and showmanship.

Of all time? So you have heard every comedienne that ever lived even before television or radio were invented? What's your secret to such a long life?

Badly Drunk Boy · 23-07-2017 09:38AM

She could be very funny but I couldn't deal with her accent. It's the American version of the skanger Dub accent.

Would we all agree that Joan Rivers was the best Comedienne of all time

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