Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

redzerdrog wrote: »

Jesus you are some plonker

You alright?

redzerdrog wrote: »

Am grand

All is well so.

redzerdrog wrote: »

You're still a plonker with your pathetic posts about 'in there'. Schoolyard stuff

I must be hanging around soccer forums to much so! Starting to rub off.

Liam O wrote: »

Has Pogba played more Champions League knockout games and won more league titles than the entire Liverpool team combined? Just looking for some ammunition for some of the shíte some of them are talking today.

I don't think even they believe the ****e there talking about him.

Anyway you don't need to fight back when there firing blanks.

Liam O wrote: »

Has Pogba played more Champions League knockout games and won more league titles than the entire Liverpool team combined? Just looking for some ammunition for some of the shíte some of them are talking today.

I wouldn't care if I were you. Just check their previous posts on Pogba and it's a complete 180 degree change in opinion one we signed him. There are 1 or 2 very good posters there, apart from that all just post rubbish all the time.

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Don't read the thread then. It's not mandatory!

Which thread? Summer transfers thread?

The start of the season isn't too far away now. Back to glorious football.

We finished 6th last season and I don't think the problems we had last season have been address - so I don't expect the significant change in our fortunes. I would expect us to do a bit better, as I would expect better from Rashford and Pogba, for example, but we are a couple of players short of the significant improvement required, imo.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

We finished 6th last season and I don't think the problems we had last season have been address - so I don't expect the significant change in our fortunes. I would expect us to do a bit better, as I would expect better from Rashford and Pogba, for example, but we are a couple of players short of the significant improvement required, imo.

id agree i think we will be better get top 4 but i think we are still a few short of a title challenge

brinty wrote: »

We gave up the league with 5/6 games left to concentrate on the Europa league and qualifying through that route??

As we finished the season how many players have we lost from that team
0 players
Zlatan was injured and Rashford replaced him
Rooney was a bit part player getting minutes here and there but not a major contributor.

Who have we added
Lindeloff - who should be a first choice central defender
Lukaku - a first choice striker

We're still trying to address the DM spot and an attacking player.

Where else have we not improved? Or do we need to improve in your opinion?

GK De Gea and Romero both tied down and Joel
RB Val and Darmian - could be better
CB We've plenty five players here
LB Darmian, Blind and Shaw - depth a plenty
DM Carrick (Herrera if we need) - yes we need something here
MF Pogba, Herrera, Fellaini - maybe need a body here but not essential
AM Mata, Lingard, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Young - Another body would be good but i'm ok if we don't get one
ST Lukaku and Rashford

That allows for the TFM, Axel, Andreas, McTominay etc to get time where needed. If we get in the two signings as Jose wants that'll give him 24 players plus young lads..

We gave up on the league when we had lost any real chance of making the top 4. So the difference, as Jose seemed to see it, was between finishing 5th and 6th.

You talk about those last few games and how many players we have lost.... but it was a season of averageness that had us in that position in the first place. You should also be taking into account, imo, the stretched squad we had last season through Jose not using players, and then selling them without replacements. We went into the season with Memphis, Schneiderlin and Rooney as part of the first team squad so you would have to think any squad planning for the season had them in mind. We have lost those three (and Schweinsteiger who wasn't used/part of the squad so meh) as well as Zlatan.

GK - no issues.
LB - Darmian, Rojo and Blind are all poor options there for differing, various, reasons imo. Shaw might become our option there but big question marks over him. However, if we plan on playing Shaw there as his last season/chance to impress then we can't make a signing there imo. Shaw and the others as backups has to be considered enough.
RB - Happy enough with Valencia but again the backup options are poor. Don't like TFM there, Darmian a poor outlet.
DM - We need a top class signing there.
MF - Agree with you there.
AM - a load of AM options but no actual wingers. We need an actual winger added to the squad to provide balance and options for differing styles and formations.
ST - I'm ok with the striker options. The worry here though is that Zlatan did very well for us in terms of goals last season - I think Lukaku will replace that, but beyond that I am not sure if Lukaku significantly improves our situation over most of last season. Maybe his more mobile style will also feed into improvements in other attacking players due to a change in style.

We absolutely need a top class DM, to provide a bit more freedom to Herrera and Pogba. I think we need a pacey winger too, to help the attack which can become far too central and congested. We need a player that can beat a full back and stretch the opposition.

There is certainly room in the players we had last season to improve in terms of goals/assists. Martial, Rashford, Pogba, Herrera, Mkhitaryan should all be doing better (they all may not). But I think we are a couple of signings off having the balance needed to push for a title. A DM is a must, and a wide threat - though I am not convinced by Perisic.

I just think implying we only finished so far off the pace last season because we concentrated on the EL for the last few games is disingenuous and fails to recognise that 32 or so PL games over not being good enough had us in that position in the first place.

If Zlatan was not injured, would people have been happy to go into this season without making any signings? Cause I don't think we are a million miles away from that as it is (Despite spending over 100million)