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Annoying Gym Behaviour - Mk2(?)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Mellor wrote: »
    Why not just do tricep pushdowns on a regular cable machine? or Step up on to a box like normal. Seems overly complicated to me.

    Think it's a bit daft myself but obviously with the machine you can vary the resistance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Think it's a bit daft myself but obviously with the machine you can vary the resistance.

    As you can on a cable machine, or on a step by holding dumbbells. Weird behaviour indeed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    As you can on a cable machine, or on a step by holding dumbbells. Weird behaviour indeed!

    For steps, adjusting the machine is a hell of a lot more convenient than a rake of dumbbells.

    I could understand it for someone doing dips or pull-ups and wanting to super set it with press downs. It's just convenient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    For steps, adjusting the machine is a hell of a lot more convenient than a rake of dumbbells.

    Let's not forget that the machine provides a counter weight, not resistance. You've also got a second foot on the ground/step taking some weight. Changing the weight settings puts the resistance between 0 and 1, where 1 is your bodyweight. A normal step starts at 1, and any dumbbells makes it 1+.

    Each rep is probably about one third as difficult as stepping up onto a box. Utterly bizarre behaviour imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Zillah wrote: »
    Let's not forget that the machine provides a counter weight, not resistance. You've also got a second foot on the ground/step taking some weight. Changing the weight settings puts the resistance between 0 and 1, where 1 is your bodyweight. A normal step starts at 1, and any dumbbells makes it 1+.

    Each rep is probably about one third as difficult as stepping up onto a box. Utterly bizarre behaviour imo.

    It's a counterweight when you're doing pull ups. When pushing it down, its a resistance. There's nothing stopping you loading the platform all the way to 100kg. Now the people doing this are using much lighter loads.

    I agree it's really odd though. Its basically using to a do a weird single leg squat. Would make more sense to go use the actual squat machine imo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭daenne


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Saw a guy with PT on his t-shirt showing a girl some weird routine of pushing her leg down on the assisted pull-up machine and he seemed quite happy with her terrible form. Then i saw him showing the same girl how to do behind the neck lat pulldowns with even worse form...i was thinking to myself this bloke is gonna get somebody injured.

    It's a bit out of the topic, but, I'd like to join a gym and consider PT as I am completely unfit and I'd like someone to keep an eye on me and make sure I do things right, and this actually terrifies me, what if I get stuck with this type of PT and don't even realise myself that I'm paying money to someone who's not interested or not qualified enough? It's awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,763 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Zillah wrote: »
    Each rep is probably about one third as difficult as stepping up onto a box. Utterly bizarre behaviour imo.

    By the same token, using the incline leg press is utterly bizarre.

    If the person doing the step up basically gives some momentum with their standing leg, as you'll often see with people doing step ups, then they're also reducing the difficulty.

    It's using a machine in a different way for a different training effect. Who gives a sh*t?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    daenne wrote: »
    It's a bit out of the topic, but, I'd like to join a gym and consider PT as I am completely unfit and I'd like someone to keep an eye on me and make sure I do things right, and this actually terrifies me, what if I get stuck with this type of PT and don't even realise myself that I'm paying money to someone who's not interested or not qualified enough? It's awful.

    Always seek a recommendation; it's the only way to minimise risk of this happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    It's using a machine in a different way for a different training effect. Who gives a sh*t?
    Because there's already multiple other machines to actually do the movements. I'd think it was equally odd if somebody lay on a bench press machine and started leg pressing the weights.

    The supersetting pull-ups and push downs suggestion made sense. Or if the other machines were taken maybe.
    But if somebody is just doing push downs I would wonder why not just use the cable machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,763 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Mellor wrote: »
    Because there's already multiple other machines to actually do the movements. I'd think it was equally odd if somebody lay on a bench press machine and started leg pressing the weights.

    The supersetting pull-ups and push downs suggestion made sense. Or if the other machines were taken maybe.
    But if somebody is just doing push downs I would wonder why not just use the cable machine.

    I was talking about glute pushdowns. Missed the cable pushdown one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Mellor wrote: »
    It's a counterweight when you're doing pull ups.

    Hmm...I must have been half asleep earlier. Still, though, at most you're pushing against your own body weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Zillah wrote: »
    Hmm...I must have been half asleep earlier. Still, though, at most you're pushing against your own body weight.

    It depends on the machine surely? A lot of machines have counterweight/resistance up to 100kg or so and most of the people I see using it tend to be female/lighter weight (it's also probably more the kind of thing you do for higher reps / lower weight anyway).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Triceratops Ballet


    I saw someone doing this for the first time yesterday, she was supersetting it with squats, I thought it was a little odd but it didn't annoy me per sé, what did annoy me was the group of 3 lads rotating around the hack squat opposite it who openly pointed and laughed at her!! So rude!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    It depends on the machine surely? A lot of machines have counterweight/resistance up to 100kg or so and most of the people I see using it tend to be female/lighter weight (it's also probably more the kind of thing you do for higher reps / lower weight anyway).

    Once the counter weight reaches your bodyweight it won't go down any more and you're just stepping up and down on it. Unless we're talking about people grabbing the handles and holding themselves in place like that (the lads I saw had something very light on it).

    Anyway it doesn't annoy me, I just find it weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Zillah wrote: »
    Unless we're talking about people grabbing the handles and holding themselves in place like that
    That's what I was referring to above. Doesn't annoying me either, just find weird. I don't care what anyone does if it doesn't affect me directly.
    I was talking about glute pushdowns. Missed the cable pushdown one.
    The cable pushdown was one.
    But the glute/step up one is basically a single leg squat/press. Would be a lot more practical to do it on a leg press machine.

    A glute kickback goes into hyperextension. So I don't think it really replicates that machine (if that is the reason).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,763 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Mellor wrote: »
    The cable pushdown was one.
    But the glute/step up one is basically a single leg squat/press. Would be a lot more practical to do it on a leg press machine.

    I've never seen it done because there is no assisted pull up machine where I train. But I just don't think it's outlandish as isolation work for the glutes.

    It seems to be reasonable popular with IFBB pros, apparently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Anyway....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    I seriously think the staff in my gym must read this thread; literally today, they added a new "No shoes on this machine" sign to the assisted pull-up machine :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,427 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    So, hats in the gym eh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭D'Agger


    I seriously think the staff in my gym must read this thread; literally today, they added a new "No shoes on this machine" sign to the assisted pull-up machine :D:D:D
    People using them in sweaty socks now so?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Was at the gym a few days ago and there were two lads doing arm exercises less than a foot away from the weight rack. They were pretty much blocking anyone from being able to get weights off the rack, at moments like this I wish the staff would tell them to move back a bit.

    Yesterday I was in the middle bench (there was one bench on my left and one on my right all very close to each other) and I was doing a shoulder press set, one fella decide to walk between me and the bench to my left while I was just about to lower the weights mid set, I had to the keep my arms fully extended till he finished walking past or I would have hit one of the dumbbells against his head, not ideal as my arms were getting pretty tired. He did this around 4 or 5 times, there was plenty of space for him to go around the side of the two outside benches to get to the weight rack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Regarding the 2 lads blocking the weights just tell them to move, generally I'd wait if it was one guy and he finished his set, if its 2 lads I ask them to move before the 2nd lad starts his set.

    I was in the gym after work yesterday (I usually go at 6 in the morning so it's a big gym and I'm used to that level of busy-ness i.e. no more than a dozen folk), it was a warm enough day and the gym itself has 2 huge windows meaning it was always going to be fairly warm in there. But the amount of folk who absolutely stank was incredible, I'm not talking about "it's been a long day I might be a bit pongy" this was genuinely eye watering stuff. Seemed to be strongest from the lads in sleeveless tops.

    That's it though, back to the a.m. workouts, lesson learned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    siblers wrote: »
    Was at the gym a few days ago and there were two lads doing arm exercises less than a foot away from the weight rack. They were pretty much blocking anyone from being able to get weights off the rack, at moments like this I wish the staff would tell them to move back a bit.

    Yesterday I was in the middle bench (there was one bench on my left and one on my right all very close to each other) and I was doing a shoulder press set, one fella decide to walk between me and the bench to my left while I was just about to lower the weights mid set, I had to the keep my arms fully extended till he finished walking past or I would have hit one of the dumbbells against his head, not ideal as my arms were getting pretty tired. He did this around 4 or 5 times, there was plenty of space for him to go around the side of the two outside benches to get to the weight rack.

    You let him do it 4-5 times and said nothing?

    One, ok hes an idiot but id be saying something then second time he attempted it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,378 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Annoying things I did this week.

    Forgot my runners, so wore my work shoes (casual brown leather if that matters) in the gym. I'm sure I looked silly in the shorts, the anti-hat brigade were probably horrified.

    I did hip thrusts in the squat rack/platform. And did renegade rows right on the dumbbell rack.
    And I'm not even sorry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 785 ✭✭✭team_actimel


    Yesterday in the gym, 2 women having a loud full-blown conversation right outside my shower cubicle. I just wanted peace and privacy so rushed out of the shower then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Aristotle145


    I was so sick of going into public gyms and have to deal with muppets constantly,that i built my own home gym instead.
    Only the person in the mirror to complain about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,427 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Saw something ridiculous last Thursday morning...

    Girl on threadmill, late teens/early twenties maybe, and she's plodding along at nothing more then a brisk walk on a moderate incline.

    The over-supportive boyfriend is there of course, hanging over one side of threadmill when it gradually comes to a stop.. Because her lace has come undone and she needs to tie it before she trips on the threadmill.... But she doesn't tie it. Instead the boyfriend gets down on his hand and knees and ties it for her, then off she goes on the threadmill again. Grow a pair of balls sunshine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Triceratops Ballet


    Saw something ridiculous last Thursday morning...

    Girl on threadmill, late teens/early twenties maybe, and she's plodding along at nothing more then a brisk walk on a moderate incline.

    The over-supportive boyfriend is there of course, hanging over one side of threadmill when it gradually comes to a stop.. Because her lace has come undone and she needs to tie it before she trips on the threadmill.... But she doesn't tie it. Instead the boyfriend gets down on his hand and knees and ties it for her, then off she goes on the threadmill again. Grow a pair of balls sunshine.

    ...Treadmill...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Mellor wrote: »
    Annoying things I did this week.

    Forgot my runners, so wore my work shoes (casual brown leather if that matters) in the gym. I'm sure I looked silly in the shorts, the anti-hat brigade were probably horrified.

    I think the casual brown leather shoes get a bye from most people, everyone can come to the conclusion that it was just an error and not by choice.

    HOWEVER, I did have a guy ask me to spot him squatting and he was wearing brown shoes - I took extra notice in this case because it's rare enough someone asks you to spot a squat and the shoes did look very good to squat in. Not sure if it was a mistake as he was giving it holly on the squats, I reckon he just liked the firm heel on them. Basically smart casual adipowers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Bar hogger. Bar on the squat rack for your squats and then another one for your hip extensions don't mind the rest of us we'll just use the 15 bars that's if you don't want that one as well. :mad:


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