Eir rural FTTH thread

Blogin · 19-07-2017 07:07PM

damienirel wrote: »

I agree totally - I was being sarcastic there. By public outrage I meant a few posts on boards and a couple of people maybe complaining to Eir.
20 mill i think is the number that was quoted to me cushty enough once you're awarded the NBP. Thing is I don't see them even having to pay a fine as they'll probably claim they have met the 300k - who's gonna argue/check if it's the truth or not?

I'm guessing the penalty is proportional. So, if they fall short by 100k they probably only pay 1/3 of the 20 million. Peanuts when compared to the money they will get from the NBP and their hyped flotation.

damienirel · 19-07-2017 07:25PM

Blogin wrote: »

I'm guessing the penalty is proportional. So, if they fall short by 100k they probably only pay 1/3 of the 20 million. Peanuts when compared to the money they will get from the NBP and their hyped flotation.

Again not sure who's gonna qualify if they passed the 300k or not - will it be outsourced to PWC?

Do the Dept. have enough staff. It's not like there's a ticker to register if you can avail of FTTH or not. Eir will be providing the count and of course it will be the RIGHT count.;)

damienirel · 19-07-2017 07:54PM

this is the depts tracker of truth don't ask me how they get the info:

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/commercial-investment/Pages/Rural-Deployment-Progress.aspx

KOR101 · 19-07-2017 08:53PM

The Department is 'all in' with EIR at this point. If they only connected about 1,400 premises out of 40,000 supposedly passed, there then are more than just small issues with the figures.

Johnboy1951 · 19-07-2017 09:05PM

KOR101 wrote: »

The Department is 'all in' with EIR at this point. If they only connected about 1,400 premises out of 40,000 supposedly passed, there then are more than just small issues with the figures.

I doubt the 'connected premises' figure is of any concern at all (except to eir who depend on it commercially).

The only figure of importance to the Dept should be how many premises can order and expect to be connected within the time scale laid out in the agreement.

vintagevrs · 19-07-2017 09:17PM

So I posted earlier in the thread that we have fibre on a pole outside the house but no DPs installed yet from what I can see. I emailed OpenEir a few weeks ago about a live date and they replied saying December this year which looked like worst case from the where and when map where it said end of 2017. However recently the Eir line checker on my line changed from 3mb dsl available to 1gb ftth.

I just had a chat with Eir via their online chat tool, gave the rep our landline and she said that it's available to pre order now and will be going live on 2nd August.

Has anyone any experience if these dates are reliable? Cheers

ItHurtsWhenIP · 19-07-2017 10:29PM

rob808 wrote: »

I don't think the department of communication are stupid they most likely check.

I think you expect too much of the Department Rob.

ItHurtsWhenIP · 19-07-2017 10:30PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

So I posted earlier in the thread that we have fibre on a pole outside the house but no DPs installed yet from what I can see. I emailed OpenEir a few weeks ago about a live date and they replied saying December this year which looked like worst case from the where and when map where it said end of 2017. However recently the Eir line checker on my line changed from 3mb dsl available to 1gb ftth.

I just had a chat with Eir via their online chat tool, gave the rep our landline and she said that it's available to pre order now and will be going live on 2nd August.

Has anyone any experience if these dates are reliable? Cheers

I think in some recent posts there have been people that have had awful trouble with pre-orders and failed installs. It seems the best thing to do is wait until it is actually live and then go and order it.

vintagevrs · 19-07-2017 10:38PM

ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: »

I think in some recent posts there have been people that have had awful trouble with pre-orders and failed installs. It seems the best thing to do is wait until it is actually live and then go and order it.

Yeah I'm not gonna pre order it as you say. But how do I know when it is really live? I presume when August 2nd passes Eir will think it's live regardless of what is outside my door.

ItHurtsWhenIP · 19-07-2017 10:42PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

Yeah I'm not gonna pre order it as you say. But how do I know when it is really live? I presume when August 2nd passes Eir will think it's live regardless of what is outside my door.

They have an uncanny knack of slipping dates, so check again on August 2nd and see if they say it's live or not. If it's live then give it a shot!:)

RoYoBo · 19-07-2017 11:45PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

Yeah I'm not gonna pre order it as you say. But how do I know when it is really live? I presume when August 2nd passes Eir will think it's live regardless of what is outside my door.

Eir have been taking pre-orders for my area over the last few weeks. I was told by the Eir salesman that it was 'already live', but an actual connection wasn't available until July 19th. OpenEir informed me by email that I wouldn't be connected until November. In the published list of areas that have already gone live (from Eir), my area was included in their June 2017 figures.

I ordered, then cancelled (with great difficulty), when it became pretty clear that nothing was happening. Looking out at the coils of unconnected tubing on the pole outside my window, I can safely say that November looks a lot more likely than tomorrow! Call me a doubting Thomas, but I won't be ordering until I know for sure that someone on my road is actually connected to FTTH and can show it to me!

rob808 · 20-07-2017 03:48AM

ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: »

rob808 wrote: »

I don't think the department of communication are stupid they most likely check.

I think you expect too much of the Department Rob.

I'm more worried about Eir rollout to my area all my neibours have fibre outside there premises but mine hasn't yet there no splice boxes up yet and open eir says October live date.

I might be one left waiting longer to get connected up can't really understand it.

Blogin · 20-07-2017 07:29AM

rob808 wrote: »

I'm more worried about Eir rollout to my area all my neibours have fibre outside there premises but mine hasn't yet there no splice boxes up yet and open eir says October live date.

I might be one left waiting longer to get connected up can't really understand it.

Same here. 12 weeks after the first group in Pallasgreen went live. No splice boxes down the end of my road yet. At least another month to wait.

knipex · 20-07-2017 07:49AM

damienirel wrote: »

this is the depts tracker of truth don't ask me how they get the info:

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/commercial-investment/Pages/Rural-Deployment-Progress.aspx

OK own up.. Who is the person in Limerick that got FTTH in 2016 ???

Johnboy1951 · 20-07-2017 09:15AM

It appears that openeir are able to provide an accurate date or very good approximate date, for individuals who enquire about when the connection will actually be available to them.

The retail side of eir only seem to have 'general area' information, so that when a part of that area becomes live, other enquiries from that area seem to be told they are 'live' regardless the actual situation in their specific premises.

Considering the posts in this thread, the above would appear to be a reasonable explanation for the mess that is the info provided by eir retail to prospective customers.

Why eir retail cannot get their act together and provide accurate info to people is beyond my understanding.

vintagevrs · 20-07-2017 09:38AM

My experience was the opposite. OpenEir gave a very rough, end of 2017 answer to me, while Eir gave me an exact date (02/08/2017). I'll not hold my breath though on the Eir date.

damienirel · 20-07-2017 09:53AM

knipex wrote: »

OK own up.. Who is the person in Limerick that got FTTH in 2016 ???

JP McManus?

Johnboy1951 · 20-07-2017 11:45AM

vintagevrs wrote: »

My experience was the opposite. OpenEir gave a very rough, end of 2017 answer to me, while Eir gave me an exact date (02/08/2017). I'll not hold my breath though on the Eir date.

the question is which is correct?

Openeir are the ones laying the fibre so if they do not have an exact date then eir retail are just guessing.

BorneTobyWilde · 20-07-2017 01:38PM

Got FTTH
O WOW, I'M IN AWE OF THESE SPEEDS.
I was on 0.78 mbps with DSL I now have 1.38 mbps with FTTH .
Wtf

BorneTobyWilde · 20-07-2017 01:45PM

gETTING slower now.

rob808 · 20-07-2017 01:51PM

Ring eir and tell them try reboot the router

frozenfrozen · 20-07-2017 02:10PM

Not sure if this is the right thread for it

I'm in an orange area. the line stops a good distance down our road, we aren't on the eir fibre rollout map http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/

there are KN vans right outside the house now, with a big black spool, crane thing 4 vans and a further flat bed type thing at the top of the road. I asked them was it for internet, it is they said. I said but we're not on the blue line so to speak, "well it's being run here and everywhere will get it eventually" they said

should I get my hopes up?

oleras · 20-07-2017 02:49PM

Checked the Eir site again today...

Trumpet fanfare !!!!

Great News!
Fibre to the Home is available at ABC123

Must be that new wireless FTTH.

Thats the pole right outside my house.

In their latest rollout figures, i think its 140 can now access FTTH in patrickswell, no doubt i am one of the lucky ones...

Going by the other posts i think i will wait til an actual splice box is connected and the poles further up the road actually have fiber on them, it stops a few hundred meters up the road towards the exchange.

superloopy · 20-07-2017 03:10PM

Defusion utility services driving around headford exchange area in kerry. Haven't seen them before. KN rolled out the fibre line in march. Handful of houses around the exchange can get FTTH. Eirs number of over 100 connected seems dubious. No splice yokes outside of that tiny area yet. Just sad looking fibre hanging limply. I got a date of October for my connection. This stop start approach is so frustrating. I could see October slipping also. Checking Eir and seeing "headford exchange first half 2017" is getting old now.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-07-2017 03:16PM

Someone was mentioning about a lack of splice boxes being the problem but from talking to my contact it seems it may be the lack of trained fibre splicers could be the issue. According to him KN have been interviewing as far away as Poland and Portugal but the money on offer is apparently not good enough to get them to relocate.

Johnboy1951 · 20-07-2017 03:22PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Someone was mentioning about a lack of splice boxes being the problem but from talking to my contact it seems it may be the lack of trained fibre splicers could be the issue. According to him KN have been interviewing as far away as Poland and Portugal but the money on offer is apparently not good enough to get them to relocate.

That would definitely slow down the actual connections.

ACLFC7 · 20-07-2017 03:24PM

Has the map been updated since Open Eirs recent blog post?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-07-2017 03:30PM

ACLFC7 wrote: »

Has the map been updated since Open Eirs recent blog post?

No.

superloopy · 20-07-2017 03:36PM

ACLFC7 wrote: »

Has the map been updated since Open Eirs recent blog post?

They released some numbers. Some exchanges and numbers connected.

BorneTobyWilde · 20-07-2017 05:10PM

Why would speed be ok, but a youtube video would not load over 240p.
Surely 150 mbps would load a video , and fast.

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