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Good Friday could soon be Great Friday

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    I couldn't give a toss, just taught I'd add that.

    Carry on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,498 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Because that's what they have always done. Minorities whinge and cry about being discriminated against and generally get their way. This is just another example.

    There was never any vote on this, just a bunch of arseholes who cried every year that they couldn't buy alcohol on good Friday and they have now got their wish. It would suit the government better to do something about the endless social and health issues this country has rather than adding to them by letting sad pathetic gobshítes have another day they can drink in pubs.

    People who want the pubs to be allowed to open on Good Friday are a minority group now? :D

    What's your problem with this change?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Leslie Puny Meadow


    ....... wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Work in an off licence, you can get this cheap stuff called Hellesbrau for a euro a can......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭votecounts


    Work in an off licence, you can get this cheap stuff called Hellesbrau for a euro a can......
    or go to aldi 12 cans of galahad for 8.75:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I think it's a shame they done this. I guess the whingers and criers will be looking for pubs to open on Christmas Day now that they haven't got good Friday to moan about.

    I think it's sad and pathetic that the politicians have yet again pandered to a minority group.

    How about this for an idea?

    Let's have a republic that isn't based on the rantings of any particular cult.

    We allow licensed premises to open and serve alcohol 365 (or 366 in leap years) days each year.

    It is neither compulsory for said premises to open on each day nor is it compulsory for people to visit any of these premises every day of the year and when they do they still retain the choice of consuming alcoholic or non-alcoholic beverages.

    For the victims of religious cons, they can stay at home and pray for the rest of our souls or cover up child abuse, whatever floats their boat.


    Mod-Banned. Digs at any religion unwelcome.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Because that's what they have always done. Minorities whinge and cry about being discriminated against and generally get their way. This is just another example.

    There was never any vote on this, just a bunch of arseholes who cried every year that they couldn't buy alcohol on good Friday and they have now got their wish. It would suit the government better to do something about the endless social and health issues this country has rather than adding to them by letting sad pathetic gobshítes have another day they can drink in pubs.

    So you reckon it's okay that minorities should be discriminated against because they are in minority. Tough luck if your in a minority.

    The problem wasn't that ppl couldn't buy alcohol, that problem could be easily solved by buying the beer the day before. The problem is that ppl can't go out and socialize in the way they are accustomed to on a Friday and you know that perfectly well.

    The point you made about the government doing something about the problem of high alcohol consumption is fine. But the ban on drinking on Good Friday never had anything to do with tackling that problem and again you know that perfectly well.

    What I take from your rather insulting post to ppl who go out on the weekends, most just once a week or fortnight to enjoy themselves, is that you are irked that religious influence in Irish society is vastly diminished.

    Let me irk you even further. Your point about having no vote on the issue is precisely because the views of the majority which are clearly the result of one's religious views have been deemed in this country to be not worthy of recognition. That is how it should be. And long may it last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Tilikum


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    How about this for an idea?

    Let's have a republic that isn't based on the rantings of any particular cult.

    We allow licensed premises to open and serve alcohol 365 (or 366 in leap years) days each year.

    It is neither compulsory for said premises to open on each day nor is it compulsory for people to visit any of these premises every day of the year and when they do they still retain the choice of consuming alcoholic or non-alcoholic beverages.

    For the victims of religious cons, they can stay at home and pray for the rest of our souls or cover up child abuse, whatever floats their boat.

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Good, it will stop the whinging from in denial alcoholics we get every year
    So people looking to open their premises and those that want to separate church and state are really just in-denial alcoholics? Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    I think it's a shame they done this. I guess the whingers and criers will be looking for pubs to open on Christmas Day now that they haven't got good Friday to moan about.

    I think it's sad and pathetic that the politicians have yet again pandered to a minority group.
    How do you know a minority want the ban lifted? Have you done a survey?
    I would think the it's the minority of holy Joes that wants to keep the ban.
    If you don't want to open your premises on Good Friday, don't open it.
    If you don't want to go, don't go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    Because that's what they have always done. Minorities whinge and cry about being discriminated against and generally get their way. This is just another example.

    There was never any vote on this, just a bunch of arseholes who cried every year that they couldn't buy alcohol on good Friday and they have now got their wish. It would suit the government better to do something about the endless social and health issues this country has rather than adding to them by letting sad pathetic gobshs have another day they can drink in pubs.
    The Good Friday ban has increased binge drinking in many cases. In recent years it has turned into the biggest house party day of the year. If it was just another Friday this would not happen. Your argument is ridiculous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    What I think we should do is allow sales on Good Friday so that the religious aspect is removed from the statute books, but everyone in the country should agree not to buy alcohol on Good Friday so that the publicans can have the day off.

    We could call it... The Good Friday Agreement.

    Christ knows the Nordies won't need that name much longer now the DUP are in government...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Ann_Landers


    Wheety wrote: »
    People who want the pubs to be allowed to open on Good Friday are a minority group now? :D

    I know, that gave me a giggle too. People love to have a good ol' moan about minority groups, even non-existent ones. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    I wouldnt go getting too excited for this bill. From what I saw of it a few weeks back it said that alcohol will be pemitted to be sold by holders of on-licenses only. That would mean that pubs can open Good Friday but that off-licenses still wont allowed be open that day. Pubs will not be allowed to sell cans to take away, only drinking on the premises will be permitted.

    It is essentially a bill for publicans by publicans. The publicans are looking for a monopoly on Good Friday alcohol sales by excluding the off-license owners. So you will still have to stock up on Holy Thursday if you want to drink at home.

    I hope it backfires on the publicans and people continue the tradition of stocking up on the Thursday night. I've never understood the attraction of pubs anyway - pay an inflated price so you can drink in a room full of people, inhaling a mixture of Lynx, sweat, urinal cakes and Guinness farts.

    I've always preferred going to people's houses. People sometimes ask me why I'm in their house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,829 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    seamus wrote: »
    That's the thing. Our drinking habits are massively influenced by when we can't it. If we liberalised our drinking laws, alcohol abuse and social disorder would probably go way down. Instead of ordering 2 pints when the guy flashes the lights, you'd just head off to another pub and have one before going home.
    You see, just because you wouldn't go to the pub, doesn't mean nobody would.

    I generally don't see the issue with allowing pubs open on Xmas day - very few still would, except maybe a couple in the city centres.

    All pubs would have to open as a person going o have a drink sees the pub closed grumbles what the F$%K sees another pub open makes that there regular as they stayed open and the other pub loses business. All because they chose to give there staff 1 day off. So I think it better to say here there is a day when ye all have to close. Same day every year Christmas Day. I think its the same in New Zealand and I think Australia unless it has been changed

    Its 1 day you can survive read a book, match a film god forbid talk to someone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,829 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    yeah I know a family in the UK who go down the local for the Xmas dinner annually, couple pints and home to watch watch the tv then...it wont be for everyone but it would suit some people. They actually have more time together (not with mammy spending 12 hours in the kitchen etc)

    There are places that do that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Yeah but which clubs? I don't remember seeing anyone ever drinking at Richmond or Tallaght, but I usually don't leave my seat

    Rovers do have a matchday bar but it's restricted to club members and anybody that pays for a match hospitality package.

    Some LOI clubs have bars like Bohs, Shels, Galway and Dundalk off the top of my head. I've been in the Bohs, Shels and Galway bars anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Wexford have (had?) a wine bar!

    Cabinteely and Cobh have bars also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    All pubs would have to open as a person going o have a drink sees the pub closed grumbles what the F$%K sees another pub open makes that there regular as they stayed open and the other pub loses business. All because they chose to give there staff 1 day off. So I think it better to say here there is a day when ye all have to close. Same day every year Christmas Day. I think its the same in New Zealand and I think Australia unless it has been changed

    Its 1 day you can survive read a book, match a film god forbid talk to someone

    The pubs aren't being opened on Christmas day. Also, I don't know any pubs that only give their staff Good Friday and Christmas day off.

    Also, if my local is closed but some other place is open on the day, I'm not going to choose to drink in that other pub over my local for the rest of my life. Can't imagine a place would lose much business for choosing not to open on a Good Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    osarusan wrote: »
    Wexford have (had?) a wine bar!

    Think Longford have a bar as well. Looks like one under the main stand anyway. Have never went in.

    The bar at Galway's ground is fantastic. It's an old-fashioned locker room converted as-is to a bar. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Where does this silly idea come from that bar staff work 363 days a year?

    This.

    Also, so what if pubs did open Christmas Day? Not everybody is religious/ christian, has kids or even care about Christmas.

    If you can find the staff that are willing to work that day, why not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    If only all things could be solved this easily, like the ongoing state of the HSE and the housing crisis, but having lobby groups and vested interests around helps for this I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭daheff


    Good Friday will turn into Just Another Friday. Good Friday is one of the best drinking days of the year. People will miss it when it is gone.

    And it'll stop being an unofficial day off too. People will whinge more about that than not being able to drink in the pub for one of two days a year

    Careful what you wish for people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    If only all things could be solved this easily, like the ongoing state of the HSE and the housing crisis, but having lobby groups and vested interests around helps for this I guess.
    I'm not sure if this is a publican-led initiative tbh. They've been complaining for years that Good Friday is the only day they get to take off and redecorate/deep clean their bars, and how could you take that away from them?

    The bill is pretty straightforward and not with any sinister gotchas, e.g. it's not allowing pub sales while keeping off-licence banned. It's basically just making Good Friday another Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    seamus wrote: »
    I'm not sure if this is a publican-led initiative tbh. They've been complaining for years that Good Friday is the only day they get to take off and redecorate/deep clean their bars, and how could you take that away from them?

    The bill is pretty straightforward and not with any sinister gotchas, e.g. it's not allowing pub sales while keeping off-licence banned. It's basically just making Good Friday another Friday.

    So they only deep clean once a year? Nice.

    Maybe the owner run bars like the day off, the bigger pubs will have a small army of min. wage people to keep the show going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    daheff wrote: »
    And it'll stop being an unofficial day off too.

    How so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Bad precedent to set.

    Isn't having Easter Monday off also a bit churchy?

    Religious fests like St. Patrick's day and Christmas Day would have to go too if we push the senator's rationale all the way. You'd be left with just NYD, Halloween, and a few summer Mondays.

    Pretty brutal sounding this church/state separation thing. Or can we cherry pick? The old Irish hypocrisy prerogative?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    topper75 wrote: »
    Bad precedent to set.

    Isn't having Easter Monday off also a bit churchy?

    Religious fests like St. Patrick's day and Christmas Day would have to go too if we push the senator's rationale all the way. You'd be left with just NYD, Halloween, and a few summer Mondays.

    Pretty brutal sounding this church/state separation thing. Or can we cherry pick? The old Irish hypocrisy prerogative?
    Nobody's getting rid of Good Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    seamus wrote: »
    Nobody's getting rid of Good Friday.

    I think he means the days off that are normally given. Traditionally the Public Service get Good Friday off and have a four day long weekend. That will have to go now, which is a good thing.

    Christmas also is seen to be a pagan holiday, the question is what day off is next up on the chopping block?


  • Administrators Posts: 56,569 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    myshirt wrote: »
    I think he means the days off that are normally given. Traditionally the Public Service get Good Friday off and have a four day long weekend. That will have to go now, which is a good thing.

    Christmas also is seen to be a pagan holiday, the question is what day off is next up on the chopping block?

    I bet you it doesn't.

    It'll make absolutely no difference to anyone's holidays, except people who work in pubs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Ann_Landers


    daheff wrote: »
    And it'll stop being an unofficial day off too.
    How so?

    Yeah, I'm not seeing the link. Pubs don't close on official public holidays (aside from Christmas Day) so why would anyone link pub closure to an unofficial public holiday?


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