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Good Friday could soon be Great Friday

  • 19-07-2017 3:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    The Seanad has passed a bill, which could see alcohol sold on Good Friday. Finally, we could see an end to the annual whinge :D

    It'll go to the Dáil and be debated after the summer break. Some amusing quotes from Independent senator Billy Lawless, quoted on Irish Examiner. He said, "Removing this 90 year old law from our statute books sends another clear message that Ireland is a pluralist, global and forward thinking country." Is it really an example of forward thinking to remove an ancient law?

    He also says, "Currently an 18 year old with €10 can buy 10 cans of beer on Holy Thursday to keep for the next day but cannot walk into a pub to meet friends where he might buy two or three pints for the same money." So is that the real reason behind the bill - get people into the pubs and spending more!

    Irish Examiner

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭angryIreGamer


    ill be boycotting pubs and drinking at home in protest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Good Friday will turn into Just Another Friday. Good Friday is one of the best drinking days of the year. People will miss it when it is gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Good. Church holidays shouldn't dictate when people can have a drink or open their premises. That should be down to the business owner and their staff. I never bothered having a drink on Good Friday any more that I would any other Friday night after I finish work late on but those that want it should be allowed, especially on a busy tourism weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    #GettingLashedForJesus
    #SeshOnTheCross

    Couldn't care less to be honest, but it's one of the few days pub staff get off....for that reason alone I'd let it be.... think we'll survive until Saturday wont we?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    Gat Friday.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    #GettingLashedForJesus
    #SeshOnTheCross

    Couldn't care less to be honest, but it's one of the few days pub staff get off....for that reason alone I'd let it be.... think we'll survive until Saturday wont we?

    Or one of the nights that part time staff have off when they could be working and earning a few valuable quid?? Most bar workers are paid by the hour so it's not like they were getting an extra day off paid for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    You are now going to have as many moaning about drinking on Good Friday as we have moaning about not being able to drink on Good Friday, only the Moaners win

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Sabre0001 wrote: »
    The Seanad has passed a bill, which could see alcohol sold on Good Friday. Finally, we could see an end to the annual whinge :D

    It'll go to the Dáil and be debated after the summer break. Some amusing quotes from Independent senator Billy Lawless, quoted on Irish Examiner. He said, "Removing this 90 year old law from our statute books sends another clear message that Ireland is a pluralist, global and forward thinking country." Is it really an example of forward thinking to remove an ancient law?

    He also says, "Currently an 18 year old with €10 can buy 10 cans of beer on Holy Thursday to keep for the next day but cannot walk into a pub to meet friends where he might buy two or three pints for the same money." So is that the real reason behind the bill - get people into the pubs and spending more!

    Irish Examiner
    Where? 2006?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Der Stier


    Yes !
    That 24 hours of not being able to buy alcohol was killing me !
    Now for Christmas day please!


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Good news for LOI clubs who were missing out on essential bar revenue.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I think we should introduce more good Fridays, maybe even extend it out over a week. There's no fun in drinking when you're allowed too. I'd even make it harder for people to get drink, like putting it at the end of an obstacle course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    ....... wrote: »
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    Across the border, but you could already get your pints on GF


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Der Stier


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I think we should introduce more good Fridays, maybe even extend it out over a week. There's no fun in drinking when you're allowed too. I'd even make it harder for people to get drink, like putting it at the end of an obstacle course.

    An Indiana Jones cave type setup ... rolling rock included !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    ....... wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    You can get obscure brand tack in certain off licences for a euro a can. Hellsbrau is one I can think of.

    I remember Tuborg used to run a 3 pints for a tenner 'happy hour' pub promotion down in my part of the country. Not sure if this is the case any longer though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    we really love our drink


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Good news for LOI clubs who were missing out on essential bar revenue.

    Which clubs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Good, it will stop the whinging from in denial alcoholics we get every year


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Which clubs?

    League of Ireland

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    League of Ireland

    Yeah but which clubs? I don't remember seeing anyone ever drinking at Richmond or Tallaght, but I usually don't leave my seat


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Yeah but which clubs? I don't remember seeing anyone ever drinking at Richmond or Tallaght, but I usually don't leave my seat

    Bohs I know for sure anyway.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,516 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Why didn't they include Christmas Day in the bill too? Talking about Ireland being a forward thinking country? Pubs are closed on Christmas Day for the same reasons they closed Good Friday.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    Wheety wrote: »
    Why didn't they include Christmas Day in the bill too? Talking about Ireland being a forward thinking country? Pubs are closed on Christmas Day for the same reasons they closed Good Friday.
    True, same reasons, but I think it's better that just about everything is closed on the one day of the year everyone in your family is likely to spend together at home.

    The pubs being close on GF made no sense though, because it's a crap day where everyone just wants to get sloshed anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Still can't buy drink on xmas day or at 7am, so useless to me.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Bohs I know for sure anyway.

    I was never there, I heard Dundalk also have a bar, but I was never sure what the legal situation was and if it was only allowed in certain grounds or something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    KungPao wrote: »
    Where? 2006?

    That sweatbox under Tara Street Train Station?


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I was never there, I heard Dundalk also have a bar, but I was never sure what the legal situation was and if it was only allowed in certain grounds or something

    Shels have one in Tolka as well.

    Usually not an option for away fans so unsure about other clubs!

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Wheety wrote: »
    Why didn't they include Christmas Day in the bill too? Talking about Ireland being a forward thinking country? Pubs are closed on Christmas Day for the same reasons they closed Good Friday.
    Who wants to go to a boozer on Christmas day though? Dot Cotton and Phil Mitchell spring to mind, but real people like to eat too much, and drink all day at home, and finish up by watching Clark Griswold's capers before heading to bed. Maybe a little party.

    The pub would be the last thing on my mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    That sweatbox under Tara Street Train Station?
    True. Or that place on Harcourt st, ****e place but cheap beer, just like that Tara st place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I'm confused here.

    I always thought legislation was initiated by the Dail and rubber stamped by the Seanad.

    Why is it the other way round with Bill? Did the Seanad initiate it or what. Scratches head.

    Maybe the Seanad want amendments that have to be further debated by the Dail.

    Someone will tell me I am sure!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Good Friday will turn into Just Another Friday. Good Friday is one of the best drinking days of the year. People will miss it when it is gone.
    That's the thing. Our drinking habits are massively influenced by when we can't it. If we liberalised our drinking laws, alcohol abuse and social disorder would probably go way down. Instead of ordering 2 pints when the guy flashes the lights, you'd just head off to another pub and have one before going home.
    KungPao wrote: »
    Who wants to go to a boozer on Christmas day though? Dot Cotton and Phil Mitchell spring to mind, but real people like to eat too much, and drink all day at home, and finish up by watching Clark Griswold's capers before heading to bed. Maybe a little party.
    You see, just because you wouldn't go to the pub, doesn't mean nobody would.

    I generally don't see the issue with allowing pubs open on Xmas day - very few still would, except maybe a couple in the city centres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I'm confused here.

    I always thought legislation was initiated by the Dail and rubber stamped by the Seanad.

    Why is it the other way round with Bill? Did the Seanad initiate it or what. Scratches head.

    Maybe the Seanad want amendments that have to be further debated by the Dail.

    Someone will tell me I am sure!
    It can go either way for some bills.

    Bills initiated in the Dail get approved by the Dail and then go to the Seanad, who propose changes to it. The Dail can then accept or reject the proposals and can send it back to the Seanad.

    Bills can also start in the Seanad and send to the Dail. And then it comes back again when the Dail have modified it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    KungPao wrote: »
    Who wants to go to a boozer on Christmas day though? Dot Cotton and Phil Mitchell spring to mind, but real people like to eat too much, and drink all day at home, and finish up by watching Clark Griswold's capers before heading to bed. Maybe a little party.

    The pub would be the last thing on my mind.

    It would be handy for people who might be spending Christmas alone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Good Friday will turn into Just Another Friday. Good Friday is one of the best drinking days of the year. People will miss it when it is gone.

    They're not removing a day from the calendar year, it'll still be there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    #GettingLashedForJesus
    #SeshOnTheCross

    Couldn't care less to be honest, but it's one of the few days pub staff get off....for that reason alone I'd let it be.... think we'll survive until Saturday wont we?

    My brother's a barman and he gets two days off every week.

    Fridays are a big money spinner generally, and the Friday of a long weekend is even bigger. Easter is one of the biggest long weekends in the year. Win-win for everyone except the Holy Joes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The Hen and Stag/tourist groups will not be bewildered on Good Friday anymore.

    But the rest of us might!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    KungPao wrote: »
    Who wants to go to a boozer on Christmas day though? Dot Cotton and Phil Mitchell spring to mind, but real people like to eat too much, and drink all day at home, and finish up by watching Clark Griswold's capers before heading to bed. Maybe a little party.

    The pub would be the last thing on my mind.

    Lads go in the sidedoor in my local for xmas day.

    Tbh I think they're really sad bastards. Either no families or can't go one day without propping up a barstool.

    If only they'd put the same effort into seeking gainful employment as they do into their drinking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    There will be a lot of sadness around now, since the GF parties are no longer required.

    No mad Qs in the off license/supermarket the night before either.

    All is calm and evened out.

    The offies etc. are not being accommodated here. Get the picture. The Health ninjas don't like them, they only like the publicans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭cyrils foxpit


    It would be handy for people who might be spending Christmas alone

    yeah I know a family in the UK who go down the local for the Xmas dinner annually, couple pints and home to watch watch the tv then...it wont be for everyone but it would suit some people. They actually have more time together (not with mammy spending 12 hours in the kitchen etc)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    My brother's a barman and he gets two days off every week.

    Fridays are a big money spinner generally, and the Friday of a long weekend is even bigger. Easter is one of the biggest long weekends in the year. Win-win for everyone except the Holy Joes.

    That's bollox.

    Everyone knows bar staff only get two days off a year. That's been one of the defining arguments against keeping the ban on alcohol sales! Are you trying to say people have been... talking utter sh*te?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    yeah I know a family in the UK who go down the local for the Xmas dinner annually, couple pints and home to watch watch the tv then...it wont be for everyone but it would suit some people. They actually have more time together (not with mammy spending 12 hours in the kitchen etc)

    A lot do it in the UK, it's not that unusual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭AlanG


    If this passes it wont be long until everyone has to work on Good Friday - it is not a public holiday so it i only tradition that makes it a day off for so many people.

    Be careful what you wish for!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    AlanG wrote: »
    If this passes it wont be long until everyone has to work on Good Friday - it is not a public holiday so it i only tradition that makes it a day off for so many people.

    Be careful what you wish for!!!

    Part of the master plan alright.

    For those who get up early according to Vlad.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    " Blown up?! Eric's been blown up! "

    Grand :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    yeah I know a family in the UK who go down the local for the Xmas dinner annually, couple pints and home to watch watch the tv then...it wont be for everyone but it would suit some people. They actually have more time together (not with mammy spending 12 hours in the kitchen etc)

    A hotel near us will plate up Christmas Dinners the night before, chill them and either deliver them to you, or you pick them up Christmas Eve.

    Obviously you reheat in the tray next day. They have pics and it looks great.

    I haven't availed of the service yet, but it sounds ACE, if there is just one or two of you. No washing up. Yay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    Jayop wrote: »
    Or one of the nights that part time staff have off when they could be working and earning a few valuable quid?? Most bar workers are paid by the hour so it's not like they were getting an extra day off paid for it.

    Quick poll of everyone who word/worked in a bar
    Work GF
    Or
    Off GF.


    I'd still take the day off after all these years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    I wouldnt go getting too excited for this bill. From what I saw of it a few weeks back it said that alcohol will be pemitted to be sold by holders of on-licenses only. That would mean that pubs can open Good Friday but that off-licenses still wont allowed be open that day. Pubs will not be allowed to sell cans to take away, only drinking on the premises will be permitted.

    It is essentially a bill for publicans by publicans. The publicans are looking for a monopoly on Good Friday alcohol sales by excluding the off-license owners. So you will still have to stock up on Holy Thursday if you want to drink at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    Quick poll of everyone who word/worked in a bar
    Work GF
    Or
    Off GF.


    I'd still take the day off after all these years

    Quick poll of everyone who works or has worked:

    Work tomorrow
    OR
    Off tomorrow

    I'd still take the day off after all these years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I think it's a shame they done this. I guess the whingers and criers will be looking for pubs to open on Christmas Day now that they haven't got good Friday to moan about.

    I think it's sad and pathetic that the politicians have yet again pandered to a minority group.


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