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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    I mean this is by all indications likely to break all PPV records yet a real fight, a competitive boxing match between GGG and Canelo is probably only going to generate 1m buys, if even that?

    Does the public just want to see the strange mismatches? Or the Rocky movie in real life? How far are we from some reality show where a club boxer gets a shot at Anthony Joshua?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Seems to be no real bad feeling between these two fighters, McGregor will stand up and say his piece and get in the face of Mayweather who sits there and doesn't even notice as he's talking to someone.
    I think there's no doubt Mayweather is taking advantage of the McGregor effect. They've picked cities with strong Irish connections so they'd be sure to attract McGregor's fans, him and Dana keep going on about the "Irish thing" as if it's a new business strategy. Mayweather hasn't gone looking for his own fans at all, he would have known well what would happen at these things.

    The facts of this fight are being thrown out the window, people will tune in just to see what happens and these events create doubt about what will happen, which is exactly what Mayweather wants. On paper this fight isn't worth watching, after watching these promotional events it's worth watching just to see what happens, even though we should all know what's going to happen.

    I'm not entirely convinced it's going to be completely one sided, I can't help but think Conor could cause a major upset, even though I know the statistics don't back that up. Mayweather hasn't got much muscle on him, he's at the slowest he's ever been in his career, this is the best time for someone to try and beat him and the fact boxers get to pick and choose their opponents whereas UFC fighters get assigned difficult opponents does make a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,501 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    rob316 wrote: »
    As much as a panto this thing is I refuse to believe the fight is fixed.

    It's fixed by its very nature. Fixed that a pro boxing great beats a non pro boxer....There's your fix.

    But fixed fixed as in this is what the script says? Probably not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I mean this is by all indications likely to break all PPV records yet a real fight, a competitive boxing match between GGG and Canelo is probably only going to generate 1m buys, if even that?

    Does the public just want to see the strange mismatches? Or the Rocky movie in real life? How far are we from some reality show where a club boxer gets a shot at Anthony Joshua?

    I'd much prefer if McGregor was defending his LW belt or competing in UFC than this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭byrneg28


    Conor via KO-TKO
    I mean this is by all indications likely to break all PPV records yet a real fight, a competitive boxing match between GGG and Canelo is probably only going to generate 1m buys, if even that?

    Does the public just want to see the strange mismatches? Or the Rocky movie in real life? How far are we from some reality show where a club boxer gets a shot at Anthony Joshua?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    rob316 wrote: »
    I'd much prefer if McGregor was defending his LW belt or competing in UFC than this.
    I can see why the UFC went along with this though. They have the potential to gain a load of new viewers, I'm sure that's the long term hope because they must be losing money having McGregor off the card for so long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    McGregor is going to go full Ali vs Foreman and rope a dope Mayweather for 7-8 rounds before trying to land a few punches on Mayweather.
    Thing is he'll miss and Floyd will clean up on points

    That's it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Floyd via DQ
    ScumLord wrote: »
    I think there's no doubt Mayweather is taking advantage of the McGregor effect. They've picked cities with strong Irish connections so they'd be sure to attract McGregor's fans, him and Dana keep going on about the "Irish thing" as if it's a new business strategy. Mayweather hasn't gone looking for his own fans at all, he would have known well what would happen at these things.

    The facts of this fight are being thrown out the window, people will tune in just to see what happens and these events create doubt about what will happen, which is exactly what Mayweather wants. On paper this fight isn't worth watching, after watching these promotional events it's worth watching just to see what happens, even though we should all know what's going to happen.

    I'm not entirely convinced it's going to be completely one sided, I can't help but think Conor could cause a major upset, even though I know the statistics don't back that up. Mayweather hasn't got much muscle on him, he's at the slowest he's ever been in his career, this is the best time for someone to try and beat him and the fact boxers get to pick and choose their opponents whereas UFC fighters get assigned difficult opponents does make a difference.

    When is the last time McGregor was assigned an opponent??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I can see why the UFC went along with this though. They have the potential to gain a load of new viewers, I'm sure that's the long term hope because they must be losing money having McGregor off the card for so long.

    I don't about new viewers, most people I know who just follow boxing can't take to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    When is the last time McGregor was assigned an opponent??
    Every time he fought any fight that wasn't for the belt. UFC fighters can give a preference but at the end of the day the UFC decides who will fight who based on what will draw the greatest crowd or be the best fight.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Floyd via DQ
    ScumLord wrote: »
    Every time he fought any fight that wasn't for the belt. UFC fighters can give a preference but at the end of the day the UFC decides who will fight who based on what will draw the greatest crowd or be the best fight.

    Diaz 2??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Panthro wrote: »
    McGregor is going to go full Ali vs Foreman and rope a dope Mayweather for 7-8 rounds before trying to land a few punches on Mayweather.
    Thing is he'll miss and Floyd will clean up on points

    That's it now.
    I'd say the opposite almost - McGregor would want come out aggressive and look for the big hit. Not that that's going to really get him anywhere given how other high calibre boxers have fared trying that with him, but doing rope-a-dope against possibly the best technical boxer of all time is really not a good option in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Diaz 2??
    Outside of Aldo that's the only fight he demanded. every other fight was assigned to him. The UFC decide who fights who, if the fighters don't like it they can lose their job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    ScumLord wrote: »
    Outside of Aldo that's the only fight he demanded. every other fight was assigned to him. The UFC decide who fights who, if the fighters don't like it they can lose their job.

    Do the UFC have any power over McGregor? now I mean, given his standing as by far the top draw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Do the UFC have any power over McGregor? now I mean, given his standing as by far the top draw.
    McGregor is an employee of UFC as far as I know. The problem for them is he's a huge draw and they have other companies like bellator snapping at their heels buying up fighters. A few guys have switched from UFC to Bellator as far as I know. So they don't want him breaking contract and being hired by their competitors.

    McGregor is their biggest product at the moment, so he has a long leash. If he ever lost that fame he'd be the same as any other UFC fighter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    ScumLord wrote: »
    McGregor is an employee of UFC as far as I know. The problem for them is he's a huge draw and they have other companies like bellator snapping at their heels buying up fighters. A few guys have switched from UFC to Bellator as far as I know. So they don't want him breaking contract and being hired by their competitors.

    McGregor is their biggest product at the moment, so he has a long leash. If he ever lost that fame he'd be the same as any other UFC fighter.

    It'll be interesting to see if he goes back to UFC after this. Given this one fight will earn him the equivalent of what 25 UFC fights?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It'll be interesting to see if he goes back to UFC after this. Given this one fight will earn him the equivalent of what 25 UFC fights?
    I've thought the same but he's said over and over he's going to go back and defend the belt.

    This fight will make him a bigger draw in the UFC with the potential to increase he's take home pay for any fight he has in the future. If he's spending his money the way he says he is he could blow through this money pretty quickly, he's starting at least one other clothing company and that's going to eat through money like no man's business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    ScumLord wrote: »
    I've thought the same but he's said over and over he's going to go back and defend the belt.

    This fight will make him a bigger draw in the UFC with the potential to increase he's take home pay for any fight he has in the future. If he's spending his money the way he says he is he could blow through this money pretty quickly, he's starting at least one other clothing company and that's going to eat through money like no man's business.

    75 million is alot of money. But I get what your saying alright, necessity and what not. Big entourage with him everywhere as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    75 million is alot of money. But I get what your saying alright, necessity and what not. Big entourage with him everywhere as well
    I'd say it's very easy to spend lot's and lots of money in America, they have a market specifically dealing with millionaires and billionaires, but it's nothing compared to how quickly a business will drain a bank account. Especially one that deals mainly with people.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Floyd via DQ
    ScumLord wrote: »
    .............. he's starting at least one other clothing company and that's going to eat through money like no man's business.
    ScumLord wrote: »
    I'd say it's very easy to spend lot's and lots of money in America, they have a market specifically dealing with millionaires and billionaires, but it's nothing compared to how quickly a business will drain a bank account. Especially one that deals mainly with people.

    Surely he's not starting financial sink holes as businesses?
    He's not that thick is he?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Don't think he's too careless with his money as he suggests. He rents his luxury cars and lives in a nice but not obscene house in kildare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭ISOP


    this freakshow is absolutely hilarious, all the McGregor fan boys deep down think this is a real right and he has actually has a chance, scoring the press conferences ffs :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    It'll be interesting to see if he goes back to UFC after this. Given this one fight will earn him the equivalent of what 25 UFC fights?

    I think he will still be willing to fight in the UFC but the bigger problem is can they afford to pay him what he wants, they can strip him of his lw belt but he's not obligated to fight it's just while he is under contract he can't do anything without the UFC. I think he has 4 fights left on his contract.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    ScumLord wrote: »
    I've thought the same but he's said over and over he's going to go back and defend the belt.

    This fight will make him a bigger draw in the UFC with the potential to increase he's take home pay for any fight he has in the future. If he's spending his money the way he says he is he could blow through this money pretty quickly, he's starting at least one other clothing company and that's going to eat through money like no man's business.

    And if he is designing the clothing line himself, which he has suggested, then he'll need to maintain his large MMA fan(boy)base to buy the clothes... because the average man on the street is unlikely to be seen dead in most of the strange sh!t he wears!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Floyd via DQ
    If conor makes &&% million how much goes to the UFC ?
    Is his coach on a % or a flat fee ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Floyd via DQ
    If conor makes &&% million how much goes to the UFC ?
    Is his coach on a % or a flat fee ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Floyd via DQ
    I gotta say Conor and the UFC do an amazing job of promoting, McGregor is only on a 2 fight win streak, One was razor close he had to tuen his back run away to re-set from boxing exchanges in the 4th and 5th round even though he did win the fight, the fight before that he tapped  because had his bell rung by a one two and went for a takedown ,
    Now he is fighting Flyod in a boxing match that is some unreal promoting by himself and the UFC>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Floyd via DQ
    rob316 wrote: »
    Don't think he's too careless with his money as he suggests. He rents his luxury cars and lives in a nice but not obscene house in kildare.

    Is he an Irish taxpayer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Conor via DQ
    snowflaker wrote: »
    Is he an Irish taxpayer?

    Id imagine so given the amount of time he spends here would be very unlikely he wouldnt be


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,501 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Just watched the New York presser.....

    God, how did it get worse than the other two?

    Words cannot describe...

    But clear as day that these two lads are as much buddies as enemies...They're a double act of diiirt!

    Please tell me others see what I see?


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