Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 MOD NOTE POST 1*

kilkennyboy · 13-07-2017 10:56AM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

KK did something like that with Michael Fennelly last year, but I wouldn't use Colin Fennelly. Maybe Walter Walsh.

You need it to be someone very aggresive in the tackle and has pace to get their.

brookville · 13-07-2017 11:44AM

Well done to the intermediates last night did anyone attend?
I heard Wexford struggled to get a team so the result not a huge surprise.I think there playing in a curtain raiser next weekend in cork so good luck to them.It's a pity this isn't taken more seriously as it could be a stepping stone or a few lads around the 25 mark and let counties pick from senior clubs
3 leinster titles in a week is nothing to be sniffed at its just disappointing that our seniors never got going but we can't complain we'll definitely be back
Limerick looked fairly serious last night and it could be a repeat of the 14 minor final where we'll be outsiders again.A win in this grade this year would be a great lift heading into next year's league

Comerman · 13-07-2017 01:39PM

Was there, standout players for us were, backs- Doherty, whelan and teehan. Tracy and Costello were strong in mf. Forwards brennan and power were excellent (fit as fiddles and took some great scores) Carey and Donnelly were very good too and took good scores. Plenty of talent there even if wexford were poor. A lot of flowing movement from backs to forwards ending in good scores. The wexford goal was soft though keeper dropped a side line ball. All in all very positive.

Cornerback1 · 13-07-2017 05:01PM

kilkennyboy wrote: »

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Then you have a Lar Corbettesque situation with your most dangerous forward double marked.

That is fine .its about putting pressure on the extra defender .and forcing a poor clearence .the shocks done it to p mannion in the club final
And clompletly took him out of the game.

I agree. Why let the opposition decide who their sweeper is? If playing against a sweeper, you want their worst stickman playing as sweeper - someone who's never played it before and doesn't know how to play it. Don't let the team who are playing with the sweeper set the tone!

tbiggertycome · 13-07-2017 05:57PM

I'm delighted with the effort shown and the attitude of the players and management on Saturday. Fair dues to Waterford they were the better team throughout and regrouped well for the extra time and pushed on while we feel apart.

I know last year the management were worried about our defence all year and I don't think they truly believed in our CB and FB last year. That has obviously continued on this year and that worry and uncertainty has permeated through the team. The players know the management don't trust them and they don't seem to trust each other, with 2 or 3 lads all going up for the same ball. If they trusted each other one would go up and the others would be sweeping around in support. All these guys with multiple All Irelands don't become useless overnight (or ever). I think our biggest problem has been the visible lack of trust given to the defence after last years All Ireland. This has then run through the rest of the team and has lead to guys been played out of position not playing with confidence in themselves or those around them and at this level that leads to dropped balls, poor shot selection and poor passing and movement.

I think the fact they all have the summer off now and can go off and enjoy themselves is a good thing. I know one of the players and he has taken the opportunity already and has two short holidays booked. The whole thing seemed a bit stale with the players not having that drive we’re used to in matches but they still weren’t willing to lie down for anyone and they still have fight in them. I think the break will revitalise them all.

Here’s a list of those I would expect to be in or around the panel next year with their current age or as close as I know. To me it shows a there’s plenty of scope for the young lads to be given their head.

Adrian Mullen 18
Martin Keoghan 19
Niall Brassill 19
Darren Mullen 20/21
Conor Doheny 20/21
Sean Morrissey 20/21
Liam Blanchfield 20/21
Billy Ryan 20/21
John Walsh 20/21
Michael Coady 20/21
Pat Lyng 20/21
John Donnelly 20/21
Richie Leahy 20/21
Luke Scanlon 20/21
Jason Cleere 20/21
Tommy Walsh 20/21
Conor Delaney 20/21
Darren Brennan 20/21
Evan Cody 21
Chris Bolger 22/23
James Maher 22/23
Paddy Deegan 22/23
Robert Lennon 22/23
Kevin Kelly 23
Conor O’Shea 24
Cillian Buckley 24
Richie Reid 24
Ollie Walsh 24/25
Padraig Walsh 25
Ger Aylward 25
Joe Lyng 26
Walter Walsh 26
Eoin Murphy 26
Colin Fennelly 27
Conor Fogarty 27
Joey Holden 27
Jonjo Farrell 28
Richie Hogan 28
Paul Murphy 28
Mark Bergin 28
TJ Reid 29
Lester Ryan 29
Kieran Joyce 30
Shane Pendergast 31
Michael Fennelly 32
Sorry if I forgot anyone obvious.

To be honest I don’t mind not winning this year or next year as long as young lads are been given a chance and a fair chance as well, not just a load of new lads playing with no experienced head to help and guide them. The thing that has disappointed me most about this year is the lack of game time for the younger lads in Championship games this year we had 3 games and only Paddy Deegan, Liam Blanchfield and Richie Leahy got on the pitch.

I’m not sure we need a whole new backroom team as Cody is a selection committee of 1 anyway but if we did have a selector who was confident enough to go in and to do some coaching with the lads. Coaching on a style of play they want them to use and give them a bit of structure to work off. I don’t know who that is, I can actually think of a few lads who would be well able to do it but I know they wouldn’t do it as they don’t have the time with work commitments, family etc. There is no man better than Cody to lead the team through the next few years as I don’t think anyone can instill the drive and never beaten attitude as well as Cody but I would like to see him try a few different things I would say a few new voices would freshen things up as well but we’ll see what happens with that in November.

brookville · 13-07-2017 06:25PM

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I'm delighted with the effort shown and the attitude of the players and management on Saturday. Fair dues to Waterford they were the better team throughout and regrouped well for the extra time and pushed on while we feel apart.

I know last year the management were worried about our defence all year and I don't think they truly believed in our CB and FB last year. That has obviously continued on this year and that worry and uncertainty has permeated through the team. The players know the management don't trust them and they don't seem to trust each other, with 2 or 3 lads all going up for the same ball. If they trusted each other one would go up and the others would be sweeping around in support. All these guys with multiple All Irelands don't become useless overnight (or ever). I think our biggest problem has been the visible lack of trust given to the defence after last years All Ireland. This has then run through the rest of the team and has lead to guys been played out of position not playing with confidence in themselves or those around them and at this level that leads to dropped balls, poor shot selection and poor passing and movement.

I think the fact they all have the summer off now and can go off and enjoy themselves is a good thing. I know one of the players and he has taken the opportunity already and has two short holidays booked. The whole thing seemed a bit stale with the players not having that drive we’re used to in matches but they still weren’t willing to lie down for anyone and they still have fight in them. I think the break will revitalise them all.

Here’s a list of those I would expect to be in or around the panel next year with their current age or as close as I know. To me it shows a there’s plenty of scope for the young lads to be given their head.

Adrian Mullen 18
Martin Keoghan 19
Niall Brassill 19
Darren Mullen 20/21
Conor Doheny 20/21
Sean Morrissey 20/21
Liam Blanchfield 20/21
Billy Ryan 20/21
John Walsh 20/21
Michael Coady 20/21
Pat Lyng 20/21
John Donnelly 20/21
Richie Leahy 20/21
Luke Scanlon 20/21
Jason Cleere 20/21
Tommy Walsh 20/21
Conor Delaney 20/21
Darren Brennan 20/21
Evan Cody 21
Chris Bolger 22/23
James Maher 22/23
Paddy Deegan 22/23
Robert Lennon 22/23
Kevin Kelly 23
Conor O’Shea 24
Cillian Buckley 24
Richie Reid 24
Ollie Walsh 24/25
Padraig Walsh 25
Ger Aylward 25
Joe Lyng 26
Walter Walsh 26
Eoin Murphy 26
Colin Fennelly 27
Conor Fogarty 27
Joey Holden 27
Jonjo Farrell 28
Richie Hogan 28
Paul Murphy 28
Mark Bergin 28
TJ Reid 29
Lester Ryan 29
Kieran Joyce 30
Shane Pendergast 31
Michael Fennelly 32
Sorry if I forgot anyone obvious.

To be honest I don’t mind not winning this year or next year as long as young lads are been given a chance and a fair chance as well, not just a load of new lads playing with no experienced head to help and guide them. The thing that has disappointed me most about this year is the lack of game time for the younger lads in Championship games this year we had 3 games and only Paddy Deegan, Liam Blanchfield and Richie Leahy got on the pitch.

I’m not sure we need a whole new backroom team as Cody is a selection committee of 1 anyway but if we did have a selector who was confident enough to go in and to do some coaching with the lads. Coaching on a style of play they want them to use and give them a bit of structure to work off. I don’t know who that is, I can actually think of a few lads who would be well able to do it but I know they wouldn’t do it as they don’t have the time with work commitments, family etc. There is no man better than Cody to lead the team through the next few years as I don’t think anyone can instill the drive and never beaten attitude as well as Cody but I would like to see him try a few different things I would say a few new voices would freshen things up as well but we’ll see what happens with that in November.

I'd be shocked if cody left I'd say he'll definitely stay,leahylooked like a proper hurler last saturday night that's a positive and joe lyng had 2 good games.
Definitely agree the summer off will do no harm we've 6 months to assess the whole thing and try pick a few players from the club.
The one thing player who I feel we miss the most is larkin the ground he covered and nearly always got a point or 2,great man to funnel back to his defence.
We had no1 like henry to give instructions to the fowards instead we had lads stuck together

WhatsGoingOn2 · 13-07-2017 07:11PM

Senior and Intermediate club dates:
Round 4 the weekend of 11th August and round 5 Tuesday 22nd / Wednesday 23rd August

brookville · 13-07-2017 08:19PM

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

Senior and Intermediate club dates:
Round 4 the weekend of 11th August and round 5 Tuesday 22nd / Wednesday 23rd August

Think there caught with the minor,21s,intermediate and football all coming up,its a good complaint I suppose and at least the club players now know where they stand

1984baby · 13-07-2017 10:43PM

brookville wrote: »

I'd be shocked if cody left I'd say he'll definitely stay,leahylooked like a proper hurler last saturday night that's a positive and joe lyng had 2 good games.
Definitely agree the summer off will do no harm we've 6 months to assess the whole thing and try pick a few players from the club.
The one thing player who I feel we miss the most is larkin the ground he covered and nearly always got a point or 2,great man to funnel back to his defence.
We had no1 like henry to give instructions to the fowards instead we had lads stuck together

I think Lester could play wing forward and play that position like Larkin.

Nedflanders02 · 14-07-2017 03:01PM

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I'm delighted with the effort shown and the attitude of the players and management on Saturday. Fair dues to Waterford they were the better team throughout and regrouped well for the extra time and pushed on while we feel apart.

I know last year the management were worried about our defence all year and I don't think they truly believed in our CB and FB last year. That has obviously continued on this year and that worry and uncertainty has permeated through the team. The players know the management don't trust them and they don't seem to trust each other, with 2 or 3 lads all going up for the same ball. If they trusted each other one would go up and the others would be sweeping around in support. All these guys with multiple All Irelands don't become useless overnight (or ever). I think our biggest problem has been the visible lack of trust given to the defence after last years All Ireland. This has then run through the rest of the team and has lead to guys been played out of position not playing with confidence in themselves or those around them and at this level that leads to dropped balls, poor shot selection and poor passing and movement.

I think the fact they all have the summer off now and can go off and enjoy themselves is a good thing. I know one of the players and he has taken the opportunity already and has two short holidays booked. The whole thing seemed a bit stale with the players not having that drive we’re used to in matches but they still weren’t willing to lie down for anyone and they still have fight in them. I think the break will revitalise them all.

Here’s a list of those I would expect to be in or around the panel next year with their current age or as close as I know. To me it shows a there’s plenty of scope for the young lads to be given their head.

Adrian Mullen 18
Martin Keoghan 19
Niall Brassill 19
Darren Mullen 20/21
Conor Doheny 20/21
Sean Morrissey 20/21
Liam Blanchfield 20/21
Billy Ryan 20/21
John Walsh 20/21
Michael Coady 20/21
Pat Lyng 20/21
John Donnelly 20/21
Richie Leahy 20/21
Luke Scanlon 20/21
Jason Cleere 20/21
Tommy Walsh 20/21
Conor Delaney 20/21
Darren Brennan 20/21
Evan Cody 21
Chris Bolger 22/23
James Maher 22/23
Paddy Deegan 22/23
Robert Lennon 22/23
Kevin Kelly 23
Conor O’Shea 24
Cillian Buckley 24
Richie Reid 24
Ollie Walsh 24/25
Padraig Walsh 25
Ger Aylward 25
Joe Lyng 26
Walter Walsh 26
Eoin Murphy 26
Colin Fennelly 27
Conor Fogarty 27
Joey Holden 27
Jonjo Farrell 28
Richie Hogan 28
Paul Murphy 28
Mark Bergin 28
TJ Reid 29
Lester Ryan 29
Kieran Joyce 30
Shane Pendergast 31
Michael Fennelly 32
Sorry if I forgot anyone obvious.

To be honest I don’t mind not winning this year or next year as long as young lads are been given a chance and a fair chance as well, not just a load of new lads playing with no experienced head to help and guide them. The thing that has disappointed me most about this year is the lack of game time for the younger lads in Championship games this year we had 3 games and only Paddy Deegan, Liam Blanchfield and Richie Leahy got on the pitch.

I’m not sure we need a whole new backroom team as Cody is a selection committee of 1 anyway but if we did have a selector who was confident enough to go in and to do some coaching with the lads. Coaching on a style of play they want them to use and give them a bit of structure to work off. I don’t know who that is, I can actually think of a few lads who would be well able to do it but I know they wouldn’t do it as they don’t have the time with work commitments, family etc. There is no man better than Cody to lead the team through the next few years as I don’t think anyone can instill the drive and never beaten attitude as well as Cody but I would like to see him try a few different things I would say a few new voices would freshen things up as well but we’ll see what happens with that in November.

That's a serious list of players listed out there and shows the amount of talent in the county, others you could even add to that could be:

Huw Lawlor - O'Louglhins - 21
Ciaran Wallace - Erin's Own - 22/23
Ciaran Ryan - The Rower - 22/23
Kevin Blanchfield - Bennettsbridge - 22/23
Robbie Fitzpatrick - Dicksboro - 22/23
Ger Teehan - Graigue Ballycallan - 23/24
Tom Awlyard - Mullinavat - 23/24

The above mightn't be as prominent as some the younger lads you've mentioned but they've all hurled well at club level the last year or so.

brookville · 14-07-2017 04:22PM

Nedflanders02 wrote: »

That's a serious list of players listed out there and shows the amount of talent in the county, others you could even add to that could be:

Huw Lawlor - O'Louglhins - 21
Ciaran Wallace - Erin's Own - 22/23
Ciaran Ryan - The Rower - 22/23
Kevin Blanchfield - Bennettsbridge - 22/23
Robbie Fitzpatrick - Dicksboro - 22/23
Ger Teehan - Graigue Ballycallan - 23/24
Tom Awlyard - Mullinavat - 23/24

The above mightn't be as prominent as some the younger lads you've mentioned but they've all hurled well at club level the last year or so.

While some of the above probably won't make it there's no doubt there's good hurlers in the county.we've won 3 leinster titles in the last week and hopefully we've put our act together at u21 because we've had decent minor teams in recent years and good college teams while at intermediate and junior level we've won a good few all irelands and while these don't guarantee success for our county team it certainly does no harm.
The club scene will be a great window for any player because I can see this being like 05 where lads will be culled and younger lads brought in because it certainly looked stale this year.
I'd like to see wallace and ciarian ryan both have impressed me when I saw them.
Just touching on the local matches while bhale will be favourites I think the rower could be a darkhorse
Intermediate as always very open tullaron favourites but ttown,bragget,tullogher all evenly matched
Emeralds should go up but it's a hard grade with callan and conahy both fancying their chances

tbiggertycome · 14-07-2017 06:25PM

Nedflanders02 wrote: »

That's a serious list of players listed out there and shows the amount of talent in the county, others you could even add to that could be:

Huw Lawlor - O'Louglhins - 21
Ciaran Wallace - Erin's Own - 22/23
Ciaran Ryan - The Rower - 22/23
Kevin Blanchfield - Bennettsbridge - 22/23
Robbie Fitzpatrick - Dicksboro - 22/23
Ger Teehan - Graigue Ballycallan - 23/24
Tom Awlyard - Mullinavat - 23/24

The above mightn't be as prominent as some the younger lads you've mentioned but they've all hurled well at club level the last year or so.

Yep their all good hurlers and are capable of making it if given the chance. I also forgot young Farrell from Carrickshock 20/21.

Brookville talked about staleness which I can't disagree with in the slightest. However the question has to be was it the players were stale or was the message from the management stale? I honestly don't know the answer. If it's the players who where stale you would expect those back in next year to be mad for road and driving on after their extended break. If it was the management then they will need to come with some new ideas and approaches to the whole set up. It was probably a combination of both to be honest and thats why I think a few fresh voices in there wouldn't hurt at all, commanded by Cody as long as he stays.

brookville · 14-07-2017 08:40PM

tbiggertycome wrote: »

Yep their all good hurlers and are capable of making it if given the chance. I also forgot young Farrell from Carrickshock 20/21.

Brookville talked about staleness which I can't disagree with in the slightest. However the question has to be was it the players were stale or was the message from the management stale? I honestly don't know the answer. If it's the players who where stale you would expect those back in next year to be mad for road and driving on after their extended break. If it was the management then they will need to come with some new ideas and approaches to the whole set up. It was probably a combination of both to be honest and thats why I think a few fresh voices in there wouldn't hurt at all, commanded by Cody as long as he stays.

I think myself it was a combination of both we definitely need a few fresh ideas our system is to predictable and one dimensional,teams have learned to counteract it so that's something that can definitely be worked on for the next few months.
Things like uncertainty around team selection didn't help while competition for places is essential we went through the league and still chopped and changed our central players right up to last Saturday this certainly isn't ideal.
The positives are the future is bright but it's important we blood a few players next year there's no use playing joey,pender,joyce and lester if he doesn't trust them to start in the summer.
Take any good team competing for this years all Ireland or us a few years ago you need at least 4 of your forwards motoring and troubling the scoreboard we hadn't got that all year only tj from frees and penaltys the rest in fits and starts.We need wally and colin to really grab the bull by the horns and richie to get back to his previous form.Hopefully leahy,billy ryan and donnelly can add something next year all 3 can score and win their own ball.
Scanlon and morrissey will hopefully be options in the not so distant future.
In defence cleere and mullen look good prospects but we still have no solution to our number 3 while delaney looks good its a huge step up it looks like padraig is our long term 3 but I'm disappointed joyce wasn't left at 3 an padraig on the wing.
While the u21 is very important it's not the be all and end all if we could get 5-6 pushing for places next year id be happy

Nedflanders02 · 14-07-2017 11:40PM

I agree 100% agree with what your saying. I think a vital part of what we do early next year is to get settled look to the spine of our team. One of the positives from this year has been Buckley's move to centre back, obviously we have to go back to the drawing board for full back but no matter who we pick I think we have to leave them at fb and Buckley at cb and build a defence around them.

As has been mentioned a lot here the distribution into the forwards has to be a lot better next year too, a lot of the time this year it has been hit and hope stuff and it's not giving our forwards much of a chance, I think with someone like Padraig and Cleere at wing back this will improve. At midfield I'd love to Darren Mullen been tried there, he reminds me an awful lot like Cha, for a small man he's good in the air, his distribution is excellent and he's a fighter too and I think he could be the perfect foil to someone like Mick Fennelly!!

Our forwards really have to offer something different next year, accepted that the ball in has been poor but the movement at times has been non existent and we are so easy to defend against!! There's a massive lack of pace in our forwards to. I'd love to see a forward line for the league next year that included Leahy, Scanlon and Morrissey and I'd let 3 of them interchange amongst themselves and start dragging opposition backs around and make life uncomfortable for them!! We need to start taking the pressure off TJ who has really carried us these last 2 seasons, the more space we can create for him the better and the more damage he will do!!

As disappointing as it is to be out this early in the championship I think there is a lot of cause for optimism in Kilkenny hurling, the fight the seniors showed against Waterford showed we aren't far off the top teams we just need a little reconstruction to get us back to the top. The performances of the minors and U-21's over the last week have showed the talent is there waiting to come through, and with the prospect of good minor and U-21 teams again next year I think its going to an exciting time looking at this young talent coming through and seeing how they develop!!

thesultan · 15-07-2017 12:00PM

Will Cody do to Reid and Hogan like he did to Shefflin and rest them more(Shefflin was injured a lot too)? I always thought that Kilkenny for the most part gave hail mary balls to their forwards but it was the fact they could win it

brookville · 15-07-2017 12:58PM

thesultan wrote: »

Will Cody do to Reid and Hogan like he did to Shefflin and rest them more(Shefflin was injured a lot too)? I always thought that Kilkenny for the most part gave hail mary balls to their forwards but it was the fact they could win it

I think it's hugely important tj,richie are rested more next year.
I was at the walsh cup match in January and playing them two in that match against antrim is ridiculous.
Tj had to carry the can all through the league we need a few more scoring forwards and we need to find at least 2 good defenders with pace.
I have great confidence in darren mullen I think he would of being a better option than lennon last week his very comfortable on the ball and knows how to give a good pass.I'd have him as our number 4 next year
I wonder will adrian mullen be brought into the set up next year it'll be interesting to see how he fares at club level this year.
Ger alyward will hopefully get a good club season behind him and bolger hopefully stay improving

Topcat32 · 15-07-2017 01:45PM

brookville wrote: »

I think it's hugely important tj,richie are rested more next year.
I was at the walsh cup match in January and playing them two in that match against antrim is ridiculous.
Tj had to carry the can all through the league we need a few more scoring forwards and we need to find at least 2 good defenders with pace.
I have great confidence in darren mullen I think he would of being a better option than lennon last week his very comfortable on the ball and knows how to give a good pass.I'd have him as our number 4 next year
I wonder will adrian mullen be brought into the set up next year it'll be interesting to see how he fares at club level this year.
Ger alyward will hopefully get a good club season behind him and bolger hopefully stay improving

I think Darren Mullen is a great hurler and probably has the best hurling brain of all our young players but due to his size and injury history Id be suprised if he gets close to the senior team for the next 2 years at least. He does have 2 years left at under 21 level so he has time on his side. I think the a big plus point for him is that his club have a great record of turning underage talent into quality senior hurlers.

I think next year the focus will be more on bringing Conor Delaney, Jason Cleere, Pat Lyng, Sean Morrissey, Richie Leahy onto or close to the team and looking to get Blanchfield back on track, possibly somebody like John Power can find his form in the club championship as well.

brookville · 15-07-2017 03:39PM

Topcat32 wrote: »

I think Darren Mullen is a great hurler and probably has the best hurling brain of all our young players but due to his size and injury history Id be suprised if he gets close to the senior team for the next 2 years at least. He does have 2 years left at under 21 level so he has time on his side. I think the a big plus point for him is that his club have a great record of turning underage talent into quality senior hurlers.

I think next year the focus will be more on bringing Conor Delaney, Jason Cleere, Pat Lyng, Sean Morrissey, Richie Leahy onto or close to the team and looking to get Blanchfield back on track, possibly somebody like John Power can find his form in the club championship as well.

I remember buckley was injury prone years ago but thankfully he turned into a super athlete mullen is a smart hurler and hurling with bhale will bring him on.He had a very good campaign last year for them in,I can't wait to see how adrian does this year at senior he could be called in next year

Dionysis · 15-07-2017 09:09PM

What ever happened Colum Prendervile from G' Ballycallan?

brookville · 15-07-2017 09:12PM

Dionysis wrote: »

What ever happened Colum Prendervile from G' Ballycallan?

Sub for the intermediates I think..he was on the minor team last year was it?think he played basketball for ireland a few years ago.
Is daniel o connor from olg hurling?

Dionysis · 15-07-2017 09:14PM

He was supposed to be talented enough and a big man at that, yeah? And great in the air as well, yes?

jeff bingham · 15-07-2017 09:35PM

brookville wrote:

Is daniel o connor from olg hurling?

Did someone here mention a cruciate injury for him awhile back.

brookville · 15-07-2017 10:12PM

jeff bingham wrote: »

Did someone here mention a cruciate injury for him awhile back.

Think that was 2 years ago or was it last year?didn't see him listed at all last year for olg

Village87 · 17-07-2017 11:46AM

Who is left for the summer ?

U21 v Antrim
Minors v ??
Intermediate Hurlers v Cork when ?
Footballers playing Meath, When?

Be doing well to win one of these ??

danganabu · 17-07-2017 12:20PM

Village87 wrote: »

Who is left for the summer ?

U21 v Antrim
Minors v ??
Intermediate Hurlers v Cork when ?
Footballers playing Meath, When?

Be doing well to win one of these ??

Minors will play the winners of Galway V Clare which is this Saturday in Cork before the Tipp v Clare game - the semi will be played before the Galway senior semi.

Intermediate game is this Sunday in Cork, curtain raiser to Waterford v Wexford.

brookville · 17-07-2017 01:33PM

danganabu wrote: »

Minors will play the winners of Galway V Clare which is this Saturday in Cork before the Tipp v Clare game - the semi will be played before the Galway senior semi.

Intermediate game is this Sunday in Cork, curtain raiser to Waterford v Wexford.

I think the u21s are our best bet while limerick are justified favourites they still have to beat cork and Galway before getting to the final.We are improving but still have more to give.
We have to settle on a number 4 maybe doheny or lawlor if they recover from injury.
John walsh would be a huge help and if blanch can find some form it'd be great.
Alan murphy has dissapointed me apart from frees

Village87 · 17-07-2017 02:01PM

brookville wrote: »

I think the u21s are our best bet while limerick are justified favourites they still have to beat cork and Galway before getting to the final.We are improving but still have more to give.
We have to settle on a number 4 maybe doheny or lawlor if they recover from injury.
John walsh would be a huge help and if blanch can find some form it'd be great.
Alan murphy has dissapointed me apart from frees

John Walsh is way ahead of Alan Murphy anytime i have ever seen them play, be it club or county.

brookville · 17-07-2017 03:33PM

Village87 wrote: »

John Walsh is way ahead of Alan Murphy anytime i have ever seen them play, be it club or county.

Agreed but Murphy is a good free taker and walsh has being injured hopefully he can get back fit it would be dangerous ff line walsh,ryan blanch if all 3 were playing well

Nedflanders02 · 18-07-2017 08:35AM

Village87 wrote: »

Who is left for the summer ?

U21 v Antrim
Minors v ??
Intermediate Hurlers v Cork when ?
Footballers playing Meath, When?

Be doing well to win one of these ??

The footballers are playing Meath in Nowlan Park on Saturday, would be great to see a bit of a crowd turn up for it!! Fair play to Meath too for giving us home advantage. Hard to know how the match will go, whoever wins it would be hard to see either of them winning the final where more than likely they'd be playing a very strong Kerry team. Would be great for football in the county if we could get to an all Ireland final though.

Nedflanders02 · 18-07-2017 08:55AM

brookville wrote: »

I think the u21s are our best bet while limerick are justified favourites they still have to beat cork and Galway before getting to the final.We are improving but still have more to give.
We have to settle on a number 4 maybe doheny or lawlor if they recover from injury.
John walsh would be a huge help and if blanch can find some form it'd be great.
Alan murphy has dissapointed me apart from frees

Yeah I'd agree with you re the number 4 position, is have Lawlor or Doheny there ahead of Burke. Personally I'd go with Lawlor back there as I think he's a better defender than Doheny and he'd also bring a bit of physicality back there aswell. Would agree with you that Murphy has been poor from open play so far this year but there's a lot to be said for having a free taker as accurate as Murphy is, and I don't think we have another free taker as good as him on the panel.

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