So it's the 12th of July tomorrow. Will the North ever not be sectarian?

Galwayguy35 · 12-07-2017 07:16PM

Those blue chep pallets are about 60 quid new, second hand still worth a few bob and those idiots burn them instead of selling them.

armaghlad · 12-07-2017 08:04PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Plenty can be done as can be seen with marches. The OO have finally accepted they cannot march and have no inalienable rights to match where they are not wanted and that they have to end the suprematist taunting and provocation.

I would disagree, they still want to march down Garvaghy Road, through Dunloy, Ardoyne etc. The relative peace since GFA has meant civil disturbances that would normally have followed decisions banning/restricting these parades no longer occurs as often or as bad as it might once have.

end of the road · 12-07-2017 08:18PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you left somebody out. the people in the republic dont want a massive financial millstone around our necks.

NI isn't a massive financial millstone. we could well afford it and the irish do want it.

FrancieBrady · 12-07-2017 08:18PM

armaghlad wrote: »

I would disagree, they still want to march down Garvaghy Road, through Dunloy, Ardoyne etc. The relative peace since GFA has meant civil disturbances that would normally have followed decisions banning/restricting these parades no longer occurs as often or as bad as it might once have.

But that is progress. The point has not been lost, they cannot insist on the inalienable right to do it anymore.
Much more to be done before we can call July and August normal though.

armaghlad · 12-07-2017 08:25PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But that is progress. The point has not been lost, they cannot insist on the inalienable right to do it anymore.
Much more to be done before we can call July and August normal though.

Yes progress no doubt, slowly but surely they are having manners put on them.

fin12 · 12-07-2017 08:32PM

end of the road wrote: »

NI isn't a massive financial millstone. we could well afford it and the irish do want it.

You can't speak for all Irish people, I definitely don't want it.

OldMrBrennan83 · 12-07-2017 08:34PM

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FrancieBrady · 12-07-2017 08:38PM

armaghlad wrote: »

Yes progress no doubt, slowly but surely they are having manners put on them.

And despite all the strenuous efforts over many years to get this far with this
whole suprematist and bigoted community you still have the mealy mouthed, fearful partitionist nonsense claiming that one community is as bad as the other in this respect.

end of the road · 12-07-2017 08:44PM

fin12 wrote: »

You can't speak for all Irish people, I definitely don't want it.

i can speak for all real irish people. they want a ui.

Berserker · 12-07-2017 08:55PM

Ah, it must be the Twelfth. Same old posters, same old bitter rants. The flag rants are still my personal favorite. OP, NI will always have issues with sectarianism until sections of the the Nationalist community learn to respect their Unionist neighbours. Til next year!!

4068ac1elhodqr · 12-07-2017 08:59PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Those blue chep pallets are about 60 quid new, second hand still worth a few bob and those idiots burn them instead of selling them.

Some of those coloured pallets are also sprayed with very toxic wood preservatives. So too those rubber tyres when burnt are very toxic.
It would appear to any intelligent outsider as a curious localised act of self-destruction.

FrancieBrady · 12-07-2017 09:01PM

Berserker wrote: »

Ah, it must be the Twelfth. Same old posters, same old bitter rants. The flag rants are still my personal favorite. OP, NI will always have issues with sectarianism until sections of the the Nationalist communities learn to respect their Unionist neighbours. Til next year!!

Who isn't getting to march where they used to insist they had inalienable rights to?
The Unionist brethren, they have learned to 'respect'.
Now they need to learn (and they will) that sectarian taunting and bigoted insulting of race and creed is not culture and is not 'respect'.

See you next year, a more normal year.

fin12 · 12-07-2017 09:03PM

end of the road wrote: »

i can speak for all real irish people. they want a ui.

And what exactly is a real Irish person?

greencap · 12-07-2017 09:17PM

12th is great.

It can only help a UI. Im certain that huge numbers of people in GB observe the shenanigans and shake their heads and wonder what on earth their taxes are funding.

They never stop the battles about public funding over there, its all triple lock nhs this and free school lunches that.

Then they see Theresa hand over a billion that previously didn't exist to the DUP to help fund the clean up and management of giant bonfires.

Yourself isit · 12-07-2017 09:21PM

end of the road wrote: »

i can speak for all real irish people. they want a ui.

No true Scotsman.

RobbingBandit · 12-07-2017 09:25PM

Have things passed smoothly in most areas or has anything kicked off in any of the hot points?

armaghlad · 12-07-2017 09:25PM

Berserker wrote: »

Ah, it must be the Twelfth. Same old posters, same old bitter rants. The flag rants are still my personal favorite. OP, NI will always have issues with sectarianism until sections of the the Nationalist community learn to respect their Unionist neighbours. Til next year!!

I hope you're taking the piss.

nullzero · 12-07-2017 09:27PM

Berserker wrote: »

OP, NI will always have issues with sectarianism until sections of the the Nationalist community learn to respect their Unionist neighbours. Til next year!!

Yeah, that's the only group of people causing any problems in Northern Ireland, clearly we need more marches, more bonfires and more miniature union jacks for the revelers.

steveshort · 12-07-2017 09:32PM

Whats the difference between an apple and an orange?'..............

@d..........

Ill get my coat.....

RobbingBandit · 12-07-2017 09:36PM

steveshort wrote: »

Whats the difference between an apple and an orange?'..............

@d..........

Ill get my coat.....

Steve Jobs says hi

steddyeddy · 12-07-2017 09:56PM

Berserker wrote: »

Ah, it must be the Twelfth. Same old posters, same old bitter rants. The flag rants are still my personal favorite. OP, NI will always have issues with sectarianism until sections of the the Nationalist community learn to respect their Unionist neighbours. Til next year!!

Hmm. It's a bit hard to respect bigotry. Is there any other trait I should respect? It's not easy finding something worthy of respect but I can try.

For Forks Sake · 12-07-2017 10:27PM

end of the road wrote: »

NI isn't a massive financial millstone. we could well afford it and the irish do want it.

Are you completely mad, the place is a black hole for UK Treasury money, it runs a deficit of GBP11/EUR13 BILLION each year, which Westminster has cut a cheque to cover, think we can afford that for starters?

Also there's the fact that over 60% of people in NI receive their primary income via the state, whether through welfare, or state employment in the bloated public service, or the 'community groups' set up after the Good Friday agreement to make work for idle terrorists, again all funded by her Majestys treasury.

And that's just for starters, before you consider the nightmare of trying to fund increased security post a hypothetical UI, the costs of trying to merge two completely different government systems/health systems/civil services.

armaghlad · 12-07-2017 10:44PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Are you completely mad, the place is a black hole for UK Treasury money, it runs a deficit of GBP11/EUR13 BILLION each year, which Westminster has cut a cheque to cover, think we can afford that for starters?

Also there's the fact that over 60% of people in NI receive their primary income via the state, whether through welfare, or state employment in the bloated public service, or the 'community groups' set up after the Good Friday agreement to make work for idle terrorists, again all funded by her Majestys treasury.

And that's just for starters, before you consider the nightmare of trying to fund increased security post a hypothetical UI, the costs of trying to merge two completely different government systems/health systems/civil services.

A challenge to say the least but I don't think it's something that would take place over night.

EmzBoBo · 12-07-2017 10:46PM

Berserker wrote: »

Ah, it must be the Twelfth. Same old posters, same old bitter rants. The flag rants are still my personal favorite. OP, NI will always have issues with sectarianism until sections of the the Nationalist Unionist community learn to respect their Unionist Nationalist neighbours. Til next year!!

Fixed it there for you!

Junkyard Tom · 12-07-2017 10:54PM

Berserker wrote: »

NI will always have issues with sectarianism until sections of the the Nationalist community learn to respect their Unionist neighbours. Til next year!!

This is exactly the kind of attitude that the Nationalist people had to put up with until Drumcree in 1998. Those days are gone and they're never coming back, the Orange state is as dead as the Monty Python parrot.

Junkyard Tom · 12-07-2017 10:58PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Are you completely mad...

All reasonable points if there was to be an overnight UI, which isn't going to happen. There would obviously have to be a transition phase, synchronization and hybridization of the economies and public services. That would take many years. Nobody is calling for overnight UI.

Yamanoto · 12-07-2017 11:10PM

end of the road wrote: »

i can speak for all real irish people.

You truly are the gift that keeps on giving

Guy:Incognito · 12-07-2017 11:29PM

Presumably this has popped up already but is he taking the piss? Must be a very delicate flower.

John finucane
"My posters have been placed on top of a bonfire. I have reported this hate crime & theft to PSNI to allow them to act urgently"

I'm sure the psni have nothing better to do than to launch a large scale investigation in to election poster theft.

13-07-2017 12:02AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Presumably this has popped up already but is he taking the piss? Must be a very delicate flower.

John finucane
"My posters have been placed on top of a bonfire. I have reported this hate crime & theft to PSNI to allow them to act urgently"

I'm sure the psni have nothing better to do than to launch a large scale investigation in to election poster theft.

You know what happened to his father right?

Junkyard Tom · 13-07-2017 12:13AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Must be a very delicate flower.

I very much doubt it, he's been through much worse, his Father was murdered by unionists in his home when he was a child. I'd say it's more a case of making a point of why it's acceptable in the north when there'd be absolute uproar on 'the mainland'.

So it's the 12th of July tomorrow. Will the North ever not be sectarian?

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