Countryside life or City life.

Mutant z · 07-07-2017 07:22PM #1

I live in the countryside about 15 miles away from the nearest city so it isnt a huge distance away, and while i do like the countryside, sometimes i do wonder if it would be a lot simpler if i lived in the city, all the basic facilities seem to be there, you have a decent transport system compared to what you have in the countryside especially if you don't drive like myself and have to rely on either someone else to drive you or an infrequent bus service if you need to head into town, because the things you want to buy arn't available locally, likewise if you have a job or are going for an interview these are usually city based, and if you live in the country this can be an inconvenience when travelling to get there on time, which isn't as big an issue in a city, although you could argue that the relative peace and quiet of the countryside, is preferable to the hustle and bustle of city life, and indeed you have more interaction within the community, which you don't really get in a city, where everyone feels like a stranger even your own neighbours, what do you think is the better place to live in, the countryside or the city.

messy tessy · 07-07-2017 07:32PM

City folk have greater access to punctuation and paragraphs.

Yourself isit · 07-07-2017 07:35PM

I'd go with both.

buried · 07-07-2017 07:36PM

I live in the countryside and prefer the set-up I have out here. But I love venturing into the cities of Ireland every now and then for a weekend or a week to soak up the action going on about there. The countryside is a great base of operation for me. I really love the wildlife, the nature and the open wilderness I'm surrounded by here, and if I want the streetlife and sounds, they are literally one hour or two down a decent road. Ireland is really blessed that way. Everybody can have the best of both worlds and it isn't that much hastle or work to make that so

Solomon Pleasant · 07-07-2017 07:53PM

I am from an innately rural area, a place with all of the hallmarks of a rural setting. I also attend university in Dublin and live there for most of the year. Personally, I think that there is only one winner in the majority of comparable attributes - city life.

Public transport, health services, social outlets, educational facilities, employment opportunities and general infrastructure are vastly superior in Dublin, or any heavily urbanised area, than a more rural region of Ireland. Opportunities are, generally, much more accessible in somewhere like Dublin or Cork than the back end of nowhere. I don't have a car and it's incredibly limiting in terms of what I can actually do because bus services (we have no train) are horrific. Unemployment is rife and so is the lack of essential amenities.

Sure, housing is more expensive in urban regions, but why shouldn't it be? You are paying for a much better quality of living and competing with others to attain this standard of living. That being said, I view the current housing market within the GDA as borderline extortionate, but alas what can we do? Decades of poor political planning have pushed us that point.

Ultimately, the goal of the government is to pretty much eradicate rural Ireland. Forcing masses of people to live within a geographically small area is the most economical way for society to function.

Rural Ireland's heyday has come and gone, it's simply taking it's time to dwindle down.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 07-07-2017 07:59PM

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I am from an innately rural area, a place with all of the hallmarks of a rural setting. I also attend university in Dublin and live there for most of the year. Personally, I think that there is only one winner in the majority of comparable attributes - city life.

Public transport, health services, social outlets, educational facilities, employment opportunities and general infrastructure are vastly superior in Dublin, or any heavily urbanised area, than a more rural region of Ireland. Opportunities are, generally, much more accessible in somewhere like Dublin or Cork than the back end of nowhere. I don't have a car and it's incredibly limiting in terms of what I can actually do because bus services (we have no train) are horrific. Unemployment is rife and so is the lack of essential amenities.

Sure, housing is more expensive in urban regions, but why shouldn't it be? You are paying for a much better quality of living and competing with others to attain this standard of living. That being said, I view the current housing market within the GDA as borderline extortionate, but alas what can we do? Decades of poor political planning have pushed us that point.

Ultimately, the goal of the government is to pretty much eradicate rural Ireland. Forcing masses of people to live within a geographically small area is the most economical way for society to function.

Rural Ireland's heyday has come and gone, it's simply taking it's time to dwindle down.

You can get over 90,000 into Croke Park if we let people onto the pitch. That's Westmeath cleared out and the massive burden it's putting on the country over with straight away and with a few thousand of them having to live on the pitch it'll give them a chance of beating Dublin in the championship.

biko · 07-07-2017 08:14PM

The suburbs is where it's at.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-07-2017 08:26PM

A village beside the sea in Dublin is what you want

Solomon Pleasant · 07-07-2017 08:50PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

You can get over 90,000 into Croke Park if we let people onto the pitch. That's Westmeath cleared out and the massive burden it's putting on the country over with straight away and with a few thousand of them having to live on the pitch it'll give them a chance of beating Dublin in the championship.

Touchè, sir.

If you read my post closely, you'll see that it's what the government is doing, not necessarily what I think should be done.

Senna · 07-07-2017 08:55PM

Mutant z wrote: »

I live in the countryside about 15 miles away from the nearest city so it isnt a huge distance away, and while i do like the countryside, sometimes i do wonder if it would be a lot simpler if i lived in the city, all the basic facilities seem to be there, you have a decent transport system compared to what you have in the countryside especially if you don't drive like myself and have to rely on either someone else to drive you or an infrequent bus service if you need to head into town, because the things you want to buy arn't available locally, likewise if you have a job or are going for an interview these are usually city based, and if you live in the country this can be an inconvenience when travelling to get there on time, which isn't as big an issue in a city, although you could argue that the relative peace and quiet of the countryside, is preferable to the hustle and bustle of city life, and indeed you have more interaction within the community, which you don't really get in a city, where everyone feels like a stranger even your own neighbours, what do you think is the better place to live in, the countryside or the city.

Living in the countryside without a car or easy access to regular public transport would be a nightmare.
I live in a rural area, about 10 miles from a major town, I love it and wouldn't even consider living in a town or city again, but if I didn't have a car, I think I would feel completely different about it.

Fart · 07-07-2017 09:05PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

You can get over 90,000 into Croke Park if we let people onto the pitch. That's Westmeath cleared out and the massive burden it's putting on the country over with straight away and with a few thousand of them having to live on the pitch it'll give them a chance of beating Dublin in the championship.

Nice!!!

Badly Drunk Boy · 07-07-2017 10:06PM

Yourself isit wrote: »

I'd go with both.

I'd go with neither. I live in a town, about 30 miles from Dublin. Good transport options if I want to go to Dublin (I don't drive either). I've good facilities available to me, with big gigs'n'stuff in Dublin easy to get to, but it's relatively quiet here.

Atlantic Dawn · 07-07-2017 10:09PM

If I had good broadband I'd be happy enough on a 1 bed apartment on Rockall.

Rabbo · 07-07-2017 10:10PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

A village beside the sea in Dublin is what you want

A small city like Limerick or Cork is where it's at.
Most of the conveniences you want on your doorstep but not having to deal with Dublin-like traffic or crowds and a 15 minute drive and you're into the countryside

07-07-2017 10:21PM

surly its a slightly silly question, people have their preference and that it and a lot of it is down to personality people are either more suited to city or country life.

buried · 07-07-2017 10:23PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If I had good broadband I'd be happy enough on a 1 bed apartment on Rockall.

I've great broadband out where I am and it's a mystery to me, because I'm way, waaaay out beyond the town of Twin Peaks and out, out in the Black lodge zone. But it's a blessing to me because I am a huge music addict and always have been. Back when I was a teenager in the early 90's, I figured the only way to keep my hobby going was to be in one of the cities, within reach of the many record shops and places where I could get these vital things that I must have. Now with the glorious broadband I can have these things got the very day they are released and I don't even have to get off my arse to do it while I listen to the leprachaun corncrake and the Bull McCabe fighting with each other in the bog beside me

myshirt · 07-07-2017 10:24PM

This bull**** of one off housing needs to stop. We can't afford it and people are dying needlessly over it.

Badly Drunk Boy · 07-07-2017 10:25PM

mariaalice wrote: »

surly its a slightly silly question, people have their preference and that it and a lot of it is down to personality people are either more suited to city or country life.

Who's being surly?

(Actually, I was being a bit surly...)

Rabbo · 07-07-2017 10:27PM

myshirt wrote: »

This bull**** of one off housing needs to stop. We can't afford it and people are dying needlessly over it.

How are people dying because of one-off housing? Poor health and safety measures on small sites?

Corkgirl18 · 07-07-2017 10:31PM

I grew up in a rural area about 20 minutes from the city.
At the moment I live in the city as its much closer to work but I don't see myself settling down here.
I think if I was having a family I would definitely move out to a more rural area similar to where I grew up. I think my kids would have a better quality of life there.

myshirt · 07-07-2017 10:42PM

Rabbo wrote: »

How are people dying because of one-off housing? Poor health and safety measures on small sites?

No. Look how much it costs to get services to these people. Hospitals, ambulances, fire trucks, road networks, schools, primary care centres, broadband, electricity. It is too much and not possible, and thus these people are at more risk than we want them to be.

Girl on the radio the other day living right in the backarse of Donegal, lost her mother, a hit and run. Really sad stuff. Amongst many things that went wrong, the granting of planning permission for that house was one.

07-07-2017 10:46PM

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I am from an innately rural area, a place with all of the hallmarks of a rural setting. I also attend university in Dublin and live there for most of the year. Personally, I think that there is only one winner in the majority of comparable attributes - city life.

Public transport, health services, social outlets, educational facilities, employment opportunities and general infrastructure are vastly superior in Dublin, or any heavily urbanised area, than a more rural region of Ireland. Opportunities are, generally, much more accessible in somewhere like Dublin or Cork than the back end of nowhere. I don't have a car and it's incredibly limiting in terms of what I can actually do because bus services (we have no train) are horrific. Unemployment is rife and so is the lack of essential amenities.

Sure, housing is more expensive in urban regions, but why shouldn't it be? You are paying for a much better quality of living and competing with others to attain this standard of living. That being said, I view the current housing market within the GDA as borderline extortionate, but alas what can we do? Decades of poor political planning have pushed us that point.

Ultimately, the goal of the government is to pretty much eradicate rural Ireland. Forcing masses of people to live within a geographically small area is the most economical way for society to function.

Rural Ireland's heyday has come and gone, it's simply taking it's time to dwindle down.

I absolutely agree with your post except this last sentence.

There is potential there for rural ireland but it requires people to get up off their arse and fight for it. The greenway movement in particular has the potential to bring tourism and an economic boost to rural areas.

I agree with the need for better planning. I think we need to be more innovative with rural housing but unfortunately, the politicians are happy to fuel this latest property bubble. It is that bit harder to draw multinationals to rural areas but the likes of MSD, Boston Scientific, Abbott are located in rural towns and hinterlands so it can be done.

Interestingly i was up in Dublin recently for a job interview. It took me over an hour to get a bus across town to Dublin 2 from Heuston. It was literally crawling up the quays, bumper to bumper traffic. I dont know how ye live like this. facilities are all very well and good to have but i think you cant beat being part of a community of people who look out for one another.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 07-07-2017 10:49PM

myshirt wrote: »

No. Look how much it costs to get services to these people. Hospitals, ambulances, fire trucks, road networks, schools, primary care centres, broadband, electricity. It is too much and not possible, and thus these people are at more risk than we want them to be.

Girl on the radio the other day living right in the backarse of Donegal, lost her mother, a hit and run. Really sad stuff. Amongst many things that went wrong, the granting of planning permission for that house was one.

But it is possible, people in rural areas don't really have a severe lack of broadband,electricity,schools,roads,ambulances etc

Look at all the murder victims in Dublin, many things went wrong but amongst them was the fact that those people lived in Dublin.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-07-2017 10:51PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If I had good broadband I'd be happy enough on a 1 bed apartment on Rockall.

Merciful hour

Sure you wouldn't pay for it if you had it

Cant pay won't pay so to speak

07-07-2017 10:52PM

myshirt wrote: »

This bull**** of one off housing needs to stop. We can't afford it and people are dying needlessly over it.

Ah here, there is very few new builds certainly in my area any more and i dont see many in the neighbouring villages either. If there is a property boom its in urban ireland and not rural ireland. I do think though that families should have been given the freedom to build on the same plot and it might have minimised the geographical spread at least.

Alot of idle, derelict houses in our parish that should have either been demolished and rebuilt or renovated for rent to buy schemes or social housing. You would be shocked at the amount of houses that are idle in the village core. Id happily rent an apartment if they were converted and if i had the option to buy then all the better.

myshirt · 07-07-2017 10:58PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

But it is possible, people in rural areas don't really have a severe lack of broadband,electricity,schools,roads,ambulances etc

Look at all the murder victims in Dublin, many things went wrong but amongst them was the fact that those people lived in Dublin.

Do you know who pays for all that for you?

Dublin.

And is it a sensible spend?

No.

Because we can do much better with our money.

And yes, 10 times more likely to get shot in Dublin than New York. But that is because I don't live in New York.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 07-07-2017 10:59PM

myshirt wrote: »

Do you know who pays for all that for you?

Dublin.

And is it a sensible spend?

No.

Because we can do much better with our money.

And yes, 10 times more likely to get shot in Dublin than New York. But that is because I don't live in New York.

I work in Dublin so I'm paying for it myself.

There is more to life than cost/benefit analysis.

Alf Veedersane · 07-07-2017 11:02PM

Corkgirl18 wrote: »

I think my kids would have a better quality of life there.

I've always been curious about this kind if assertion. I grew up down the country but I don't really agree with it.

gizmo81 · 07-07-2017 11:05PM

I've grown tired of Dublin.

10 odd years ago Dublin was great IMO

Now it's overcrowded, everyones out for themselves and it's just grim.

07-07-2017 11:11PM

gizmo81 wrote: »

I've grown tired of Dublin.

10 odd years ago Dublin was great IMO

Now it's overcrowded, everyones out for themselves and it's just grim.

I rememeber visiting Dublin as a kid and once upon a time you could walk down Henry Street or Moore Street and you had the tobacco sellers and the 'four for a pound' crew...i actually never thought id say this at the time but I kind of miss that bit of vibrancy and life in the city. Its this bland multicultural diluted version of itself now.

Mr_Muffin · 07-07-2017 11:15PM

I've always been a city guy but as I get older the countryside becomes more and more appealing.

For me, I hope to enjoy both - a large scenic house in the country for every day living with a weekend pad in the city.

Countryside life or City life.

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