Countryside life or City life.

Mutant z

I live in the countryside about 15 miles away from the nearest city so it isnt a huge distance away, and while i do like the countryside, sometimes i do wonder if it would be a lot simpler if i lived in the city, all the basic facilities seem to be there, you have a decent transport system compared to what you have in the countryside especially if you don't drive like myself and have to rely on either someone else to drive you or an infrequent bus service if you need to head into town, because the things you want to buy arn't available locally, likewise if you have a job or are going for an interview these are usually city based, and if you live in the country this can be an inconvenience when travelling to get there on time, which isn't as big an issue in a city, although you could argue that the relative peace and quiet of the countryside, is preferable to the hustle and bustle of city life, and indeed you have more interaction within the community, which you don't really get in a city, where everyone feels like a stranger even your own neighbours, what do you think is the better place to live in, the countryside or the city.

messy tessy

City folk have greater access to punctuation and paragraphs.

Yourself isit

I'd go with both.

buried

I live in the countryside and prefer the set-up I have out here. But I love venturing into the cities of Ireland every now and then for a weekend or a week to soak up the action going on about there. The countryside is a great base of operation for me. I really love the wildlife, the nature and the open wilderness I'm surrounded by here, and if I want the streetlife and sounds, they are literally one hour or two down a decent road. Ireland is really blessed that way. Everybody can have the best of both worlds and it isn't that much hastle or work to make that so

Solomon Pleasant

I am from an innately rural area, a place with all of the hallmarks of a rural setting. I also attend university in Dublin and live there for most of the year. Personally, I think that there is only one winner in the majority of comparable attributes - city life.

Public transport, health services, social outlets, educational facilities, employment opportunities and general infrastructure are vastly superior in Dublin, or any heavily urbanised area, than a more rural region of Ireland. Opportunities are, generally, much more accessible in somewhere like Dublin or Cork than the back end of nowhere. I don't have a car and it's incredibly limiting in terms of what I can actually do because bus services (we have no train) are horrific. Unemployment is rife and so is the lack of essential amenities.

Sure, housing is more expensive in urban regions, but why shouldn't it be? You are paying for a much better quality of living and competing with others to attain this standard of living. That being said, I view the current housing market within the GDA as borderline extortionate, but alas what can we do? Decades of poor political planning have pushed us that point.

Ultimately, the goal of the government is to pretty much eradicate rural Ireland. Forcing masses of people to live within a geographically small area is the most economical way for society to function.

Rural Ireland's heyday has come and gone, it's simply taking it's time to dwindle down.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I am from an innately rural area, a place with all of the hallmarks of a rural setting. I also attend university in Dublin and live there for most of the year. Personally, I think that there is only one winner in the majority of comparable attributes - city life.

Public transport, health services, social outlets, educational facilities, employment opportunities and general infrastructure are vastly superior in Dublin, or any heavily urbanised area, than a more rural region of Ireland. Opportunities are, generally, much more accessible in somewhere like Dublin or Cork than the back end of nowhere. I don't have a car and it's incredibly limiting in terms of what I can actually do because bus services (we have no train) are horrific. Unemployment is rife and so is the lack of essential amenities.

Sure, housing is more expensive in urban regions, but why shouldn't it be? You are paying for a much better quality of living and competing with others to attain this standard of living. That being said, I view the current housing market within the GDA as borderline extortionate, but alas what can we do? Decades of poor political planning have pushed us that point.

Ultimately, the goal of the government is to pretty much eradicate rural Ireland. Forcing masses of people to live within a geographically small area is the most economical way for society to function.

Rural Ireland's heyday has come and gone, it's simply taking it's time to dwindle down.

You can get over 90,000 into Croke Park if we let people onto the pitch. That's Westmeath cleared out and the massive burden it's putting on the country over with straight away and with a few thousand of them having to live on the pitch it'll give them a chance of beating Dublin in the championship.

biko

The suburbs is where it's at.

SEPT 23 1989

A village beside the sea in Dublin is what you want

Solomon Pleasant

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

You can get over 90,000 into Croke Park if we let people onto the pitch. That's Westmeath cleared out and the massive burden it's putting on the country over with straight away and with a few thousand of them having to live on the pitch it'll give them a chance of beating Dublin in the championship.

Touchè, sir.

If you read my post closely, you'll see that it's what the government is doing, not necessarily what I think should be done.

Senna

Mutant z wrote: »

I live in the countryside about 15 miles away from the nearest city so it isnt a huge distance away, and while i do like the countryside, sometimes i do wonder if it would be a lot simpler if i lived in the city, all the basic facilities seem to be there, you have a decent transport system compared to what you have in the countryside especially if you don't drive like myself and have to rely on either someone else to drive you or an infrequent bus service if you need to head into town, because the things you want to buy arn't available locally, likewise if you have a job or are going for an interview these are usually city based, and if you live in the country this can be an inconvenience when travelling to get there on time, which isn't as big an issue in a city, although you could argue that the relative peace and quiet of the countryside, is preferable to the hustle and bustle of city life, and indeed you have more interaction within the community, which you don't really get in a city, where everyone feels like a stranger even your own neighbours, what do you think is the better place to live in, the countryside or the city.

Living in the countryside without a car or easy access to regular public transport would be a nightmare.
I live in a rural area, about 10 miles from a major town, I love it and wouldn't even consider living in a town or city again, but if I didn't have a car, I think I would feel completely different about it.

Fart

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

You can get over 90,000 into Croke Park if we let people onto the pitch. That's Westmeath cleared out and the massive burden it's putting on the country over with straight away and with a few thousand of them having to live on the pitch it'll give them a chance of beating Dublin in the championship.

Nice!!!

Badly Drunk Boy

Yourself isit wrote: »

I'd go with both.

I'd go with neither. I live in a town, about 30 miles from Dublin. Good transport options if I want to go to Dublin (I don't drive either). I've good facilities available to me, with big gigs'n'stuff in Dublin easy to get to, but it's relatively quiet here.

Atlantic Dawn

If I had good broadband I'd be happy enough on a 1 bed apartment on Rockall.

Rabbo

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

A village beside the sea in Dublin is what you want

A small city like Limerick or Cork is where it's at.
Most of the conveniences you want on your doorstep but not having to deal with Dublin-like traffic or crowds and a 15 minute drive and you're into the countryside

surly its a slightly silly question, people have their preference and that it and a lot of it is down to personality people are either more suited to city or country life.

buried

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If I had good broadband I'd be happy enough on a 1 bed apartment on Rockall.

I've great broadband out where I am and it's a mystery to me, because I'm way, waaaay out beyond the town of Twin Peaks and out, out in the Black lodge zone. But it's a blessing to me because I am a huge music addict and always have been. Back when I was a teenager in the early 90's, I figured the only way to keep my hobby going was to be in one of the cities, within reach of the many record shops and places where I could get these vital things that I must have. Now with the glorious broadband I can have these things got the very day they are released and I don't even have to get off my arse to do it while I listen to the leprachaun corncrake and the Bull McCabe fighting with each other in the bog beside me

myshirt

This bull**** of one off housing needs to stop. We can't afford it and people are dying needlessly over it.

Badly Drunk Boy

mariaalice wrote: »

surly its a slightly silly question, people have their preference and that it and a lot of it is down to personality people are either more suited to city or country life.

Who's being surly?




(Actually, I was being a bit surly...)

Rabbo

myshirt wrote: »

This bull**** of one off housing needs to stop. We can't afford it and people are dying needlessly over it.

How are people dying because of one-off housing? Poor health and safety measures on small sites?

Corkgirl18

I grew up in a rural area about 20 minutes from the city.
At the moment I live in the city as its much closer to work but I don't see myself settling down here.
I think if I was having a family I would definitely move out to a more rural area similar to where I grew up. I think my kids would have a better quality of life there.

myshirt

Rabbo wrote: »

How are people dying because of one-off housing? Poor health and safety measures on small sites?

No. Look how much it costs to get services to these people. Hospitals, ambulances, fire trucks, road networks, schools, primary care centres, broadband, electricity. It is too much and not possible, and thus these people are at more risk than we want them to be.

Girl on the radio the other day living right in the backarse of Donegal, lost her mother, a hit and run. Really sad stuff. Amongst many things that went wrong, the granting of planning permission for that house was one.

Solomon Pleasant

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I am from an innately rural area, a place with all of the hallmarks of a rural setting. I also attend university in Dublin and live there for most of the year. Personally, I think that there is only one winner in the majority of comparable attributes - city life.

Public transport, health services, social outlets, educational facilities, employment opportunities and general infrastructure are vastly superior in Dublin, or any heavily urbanised area, than a more rural region of Ireland. Opportunities are, generally, much more accessible in somewhere like Dublin or Cork than the back end of nowhere. I don't have a car and it's incredibly limiting in terms of what I can actually do because bus services (we have no train) are horrific. Unemployment is rife and so is the lack of essential amenities.

Sure, housing is more expensive in urban regions, but why shouldn't it be? You are paying for a much better quality of living and competing with others to attain this standard of living. That being said, I view the current housing market within the GDA as borderline extortionate, but alas what can we do? Decades of poor political planning have pushed us that point.

Ultimately, the goal of the government is to pretty much eradicate rural Ireland. Forcing masses of people to live within a geographically small area is the most economical way for society to function.

Rural Ireland's heyday has come and gone, it's simply taking it's time to dwindle down.

I absolutely agree with your post except this last sentence.

There is potential there for rural ireland but it requires people to get up off their arse and fight for it. The greenway movement in particular has the potential to bring tourism and an economic boost to rural areas.

I agree with the need for better planning. I think we need to be more innovative with rural housing but unfortunately, the politicians are happy to fuel this latest property bubble. It is that bit harder to draw multinationals to rural areas but the likes of MSD, Boston Scientific, Abbott are located in rural towns and hinterlands so it can be done.

Interestingly i was up in Dublin recently for a job interview. It took me over an hour to get a bus across town to Dublin 2 from Heuston. It was literally crawling up the quays, bumper to bumper traffic. I dont know how ye live like this. facilities are all very well and good to have but i think you cant beat being part of a community of people who look out for one another.

Dirty Dingus McGee

myshirt wrote: »

No. Look how much it costs to get services to these people. Hospitals, ambulances, fire trucks, road networks, schools, primary care centres, broadband, electricity. It is too much and not possible, and thus these people are at more risk than we want them to be.

Girl on the radio the other day living right in the backarse of Donegal, lost her mother, a hit and run. Really sad stuff. Amongst many things that went wrong, the granting of planning permission for that house was one.

But it is possible, people in rural areas don't really have a severe lack of broadband,electricity,schools,roads,ambulances etc

Look at all the murder victims in Dublin, many things went wrong but amongst them was the fact that those people lived in Dublin.

SEPT 23 1989

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If I had good broadband I'd be happy enough on a 1 bed apartment on Rockall.

Merciful hour

Sure you wouldn't pay for it if you had it

Cant pay won't pay so to speak

myshirt

myshirt wrote: »

This bull**** of one off housing needs to stop. We can't afford it and people are dying needlessly over it.

Ah here, there is very few new builds certainly in my area any more and i dont see many in the neighbouring villages either. If there is a property boom its in urban ireland and not rural ireland. I do think though that families should have been given the freedom to build on the same plot and it might have minimised the geographical spread at least.

Alot of idle, derelict houses in our parish that should have either been demolished and rebuilt or renovated for rent to buy schemes or social housing. You would be shocked at the amount of houses that are idle in the village core. Id happily rent an apartment if they were converted and if i had the option to buy then all the better.

myshirt

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

But it is possible, people in rural areas don't really have a severe lack of broadband,electricity,schools,roads,ambulances etc

Look at all the murder victims in Dublin, many things went wrong but amongst them was the fact that those people lived in Dublin.

Do you know who pays for all that for you?

Dublin.

And is it a sensible spend?

No.

Because we can do much better with our money.


And yes, 10 times more likely to get shot in Dublin than New York. But that is because I don't live in New York.

Dirty Dingus McGee

myshirt wrote: »

Do you know who pays for all that for you?

Dublin.

And is it a sensible spend?

No.

Because we can do much better with our money.


And yes, 10 times more likely to get shot in Dublin than New York. But that is because I don't live in New York.

I work in Dublin so I'm paying for it myself.

There is more to life than cost/benefit analysis.

Alf Veedersane

Corkgirl18 wrote: »

I think my kids would have a better quality of life there.

I've always been curious about this kind if assertion. I grew up down the country but I don't really agree with it.

gizmo81

I've grown tired of Dublin.

10 odd years ago Dublin was great IMO

Now it's overcrowded, everyones out for themselves and it's just grim.

gizmo81

gizmo81 wrote: »

I've grown tired of Dublin.

10 odd years ago Dublin was great IMO

Now it's overcrowded, everyones out for themselves and it's just grim.

I rememeber visiting Dublin as a kid and once upon a time you could walk down Henry Street or Moore Street and you had the tobacco sellers and the 'four for a pound' crew...i actually never thought id say this at the time but I kind of miss that bit of vibrancy and life in the city. Its this bland multicultural diluted version of itself now.

Mr_Muffin

I've always been a city guy but as I get older the countryside becomes more and more appealing.

For me, I hope to enjoy both - a large scenic house in the country for every day living with a weekend pad in the city.

freshpopcorn

I live in the middle of the country side just off the old Dublin road and it's easier to find my house than it would be to find a house an estate in our local town. I've supermarkets, shops, sports clubs, woods, swimming pool all within under ten minutes of my house. I'm about 30 minutes away from all the other major retailers. I've a large garden and nobody living on top of me. I really enjoyed where I grew up for the most part. I did the city thing for a while and was really looking forward to it but all the shops/cinema/etc lost their sparkly for me after a bit.

gizmo81

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

I've always been a city guy but as I get older the countryside becomes more and more appealing.

For me, I hope to enjoy both - a large scenic house in the country for every day living with a weekend pad in the city.

I agree, I feel it's an age thing for me too.

On an unrelated matter, Was that you that won the Euromillions tonight?

freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I live in the middle of the country side just off the old Dublin road and it's easier to find my house than it would be to find a house an estate in our local town. I've supermarkets, shops, sports clubs, woods, swimming pool all within under ten minutes of my house. I'm about 30 minutes away from all the other major retailers. I've a large garden and nobody living on top of me. I really enjoyed where I grew up for the most part. I did the city thing for a while and was really looking forward to it but all the shops/cinema/etc lost their sparkly for me after a bit.

Im 6 mile away from Aldi and Supervalu and im 16 mile away from a Lidl. Im 30 mins from Semple Stadium and Nowlan Park. I am near motorway to Dublin, Cork, Limerick. Waterford and Carlow are less than an hour away and Kilkenny and Clonmel are less then half an hour. Swimming pools, Cinemas are also very near..... Sure what more could i ask for?? Im currently involved in a campaign for a Tipperary greenway. If this comes to our area it could be huge.

We could do with more jobs in this area granted and more public transport but it has real potential. I just couldnt see myself living in Dublin or any city for that matter. The shoe just doesnt fit

Chuchote

I'd go for country life every time, except that in Ireland the facilities are not sufficient - terrible transport (I'm not talking about going to the local town for groceries, the bike is fine for that if it's 15km away, but about anything further), little choice of schools, get a heart attack and you're dead if you don't have the consideration to have it within office hours, education you have a choice of the parish priest's place or… nothing, find a job and you are at the mercy of local politics because there's no other job in your trade within 50km. In the most basic requirements - health, education, employment - rural Ireland is failed and has failed.

Chuchote

Chuchote wrote: »

I'd go for country life every time, except that in Ireland the facilities are not sufficient - terrible transport (I'm not talking about going to the local town for groceries, the bike is fine for that if it's 15km away, but about anything further), little choice of schools, get a heart attack and you're dead if you don't have the consideration to have it within office hours, education you have a choice of the parish priest's place or… nothing, find a job and you are at the mercy of local politics because there's no other job in your trade within 50km. In the most basic requirements - health, education, employment - rural Ireland is failed and has failed.

Couldnt have said it better.

I think the GAA clubs and county boards could be doing more too rather than just filling their own boots. Rather than simply whinging about who is available to line out for the village at for the weekend they could perhaps stop being so tunnel visioned and view the bigger picture. They can become ambassadors for real change.

Corkgirl18

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I've always been curious about this kind if assertion. I grew up down the country but I don't really agree with it.

I suppose I had a fantastic childhood living in the country and I want that for my children. We always had animals, grew our own fruit and veg, went on nature walks and cycles for hours, learning about all the different trees and flowers and the like. My area had a great sense of community too.

Others, like yourself, might not have any interest in this. Each to their own

Solomon Pleasant

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I absolutely agree with your post except this last sentence.

There is potential there for rural ireland but it requires people to get up off their arse and fight for it. The greenway movement in particular has the potential to bring tourism and an economic boost to rural areas.

I agree with the need for better planning. I think we need to be more innovative with rural housing but unfortunately, the politicians are happy to fuel this latest property bubble. It is that bit harder to draw multinationals to rural areas but the likes of MSD, Boston Scientific, Abbott are located in rural towns and hinterlands so it can be done.

Interestingly i was up in Dublin recently for a job interview. It took me over an hour to get a bus across town to Dublin 2 from Heuston. It was literally crawling up the quays, bumper to bumper traffic. I dont know how ye live like this. facilities are all very well and good to have but i think you cant beat being part of a community of people who look out for one another.

While there may be some potential for rural Ireland, the potential for the more urbanised regions is far greater and government expenditure and annual fiscal policy will focus heavily on urban areas, not rural ones. Any considerable rural development will take a serious effort on behalf of an entire community and I can't see enough people willing to sacrifice time, effort and money to make it happen on a consistent enough basis that would allow a rural outback to thrive. Certainly, my own rural community is slowly approaching it's end, the natural result of eras of emigration and economic stagnation.

I'm not sure if the current housing situation could be considered a bubble. For a bubble to happen, there's always a few vital ingredients, one of which is cheap or easy credit. This simply isn't the case in Dublin. It is, however, a complete mismatch of supply and demand which threatens to hammer working and middle class people. I think it's incredibly essential that the government create other sizeable economic centres outside of Dublin. Ireland is at the point of its development where it must diversify and expand, Dublin simply isn't enough.

It's funny that you mention the community aspect, I work in the local shop and would be familiar with a large part of the so called "community". I personally haven't experienced the kind of community feel that would lead me to believe that it's tight knit. I found the college community to be much welcoming, less cynical and more approachable all round. The feeling of togetherness in rural Ireland is, in my view, very much overstated.

Nekarsulm

If you are going to live in the country side, you must have a car.
If you grew up there, you more than likely learned to drive from 14 onwards.

On the subject of cost of services, don't forget that if the Doc on Call or the ambulance is on a call 30 miles away, there is usually no alternate cover in place, so its not like there is an impressive fleet of paramedics fo pay and multiple appliances to man and maintain.

Solomon Pleasant

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

While there may be some potential for rural Ireland, the potential for the more urbanised regions is far greater and government expenditure and annual fiscal policy will focus heavily on urban areas, not rural ones. Any considerable rural development will take a serious effort on behalf of an entire community and I can't see enough people willing to sacrifice time, effort and money to make it happen on a consistent enough basis that would allow a rural outback to thrive. Certainly, my own rural community is slowly approaching it's end, the natural result of eras of emigration and economic stagnation.

True, but it will take citizens to stand up and say enough is enough. As i said, i do believe the greenway movement is one such movement that can benefit rural ireland but it needs new industry also and innovation. You cant underestimate rural ireland by your assumptions. It does need a leader to inspire people into action though.

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I'm not sure if the current housing situation could be considered a bubble. For a bubble to happen, there's always a few vital ingredients, one of which is cheap or easy credit. This simply isn't the case in Dublin. It is, however, a complete mismatch of supply and demand which threatens to hammer working and middle class people. I think it's incredibly essential that the government create other sizeable economic centres outside of Dublin. Ireland is at the point of its development where it must diversify and expand, Dublin simply isn't enough.

With house prices rising i can only assume there is demand to justify these rises? Absolutely agree with the rest, we must go beyond Dublin. Services are under huge pressure and roads are full up there.

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

It's funny that you mention the community aspect, I work in the local shop and would be familiar with a large part of the so called "community". I personally haven't experienced the kind of community feel that would lead me to believe that it's tight knit. I found the college community to be much welcoming, less cynical and more approachable all round. The feeling of togetherness in rural Ireland is, in my view, very much overstated.

Depends on which community you go to . I probably wouldnt say it about my own area tbh but little Loughmore formed a Co-op to save the local shop. There is many other villages that are inspiring not neccessarily within the Republic but rural nonetheless. Slaughtneil in Derry is one such parish. Competing in hurling, football, camogie. the locals joined together to save post office and shop, and the area is trying to be recognised as a gaeltacht area

paudgenator

I grew up in a small town and moved to Dublin at 18. Have lived in various cities since then (apart from a stint of 2 years back in my home town with small kids to be near family) and definitely prefer city living.

listermint

Just moved out of Dublin recently, I'm a city lad for me entire existence but had no qualms about getting away from it. Bought a house with sea views beside a large enough town its peaceful the view is fantastic my garden would fit four houses on it and I've no neighbours overlooking me or running up and down stairs or playing music at three am when your just not feeling it.

Would I go back, not a chance.

Unless you handed my some millionaires house in Dalkey or somewhere where people are not on top of you.

Chuchote

Nekarsulm wrote: »

If you are going to live in the country side, you must have a car.
If you grew up there, you more than likely learned to drive from 14 onwards.

On the subject of cost of services, don't forget that if the Doc on Call or the ambulance is on a call 30 miles away, there is usually no alternate cover in place, so its not like there is an impressive fleet of paramedics fo pay and multiple appliances to man and maintain.

And yet most country people don't live *that* far from the shops, the pub, etc. Really a lot of journeys could be cycled - and will be, as we realise that oil is running out.

freshpopcorn

Chuchote wrote: »

And yet most country people don't live *that* far from the shops, the pub, etc. Really a lot of journeys could be cycled - and will be, as we realise that oil is running out.

I'd say the government will have to really increase the cost of fuel to make people choose the bike. In the country the car is so much handier than a bike.

Chuchote

Chuchote wrote: »

And yet most country people don't live *that* far from the shops, the pub, etc. Really a lot of journeys could be cycled - and will be, as we realise that oil is running out.

In terms of vehicles, we are not thinking outside the box either. We do have an ageing population with no proper public transport in place and public transport is becoming less and less viable. Surely to god in this day and age there should be something cost effective in place to shuttle people between small towns?

freshpopcorn

Deleted User wrote: »

In terms of vehicles, we are not thinking outside the box either. We do have an ageing population with no proper public transport in place and public transport is becoming less and less viable. Surely to god in this day and age there should be something cost effective in place to shuttle people between small towns?

I have no idea to be honest.
When I went to college. I could get a bus and a shuttle bus to the college. It worked out cheaper and faster by bus and most people would still choose the car and this is why the services are being cut nobody is using them. The only people I met on the bus were generally OAP's on their day out. They'd get the bus up in the morning coming back down again and go up again.
A local bus started in my area to bring people to local towns and it doesn't seem to be used either.

Solomon Pleasant

Deleted User wrote: »

True, but it will take citizens to stand up and say enough is enough. As i said, i do believe the greenway movement is one such movement that can benefit rural ireland but it needs new industry also and innovation. You cant underestimate rural ireland by your assumptions. It does need a leader to inspire people into action though.

I don't really underestimate rural Ireland by assumptions. I just know that the majority of people who want to achieve their ambitions usually leave the more rural areas. University is the obvious example. Yes, there are ITs in rural (and urban areas), but universities tend to locate themselves in centralised urban regions. If that trend continues, will there be enough people to effect change? In particular, the people who are usually most capable of effecting change are those who incidentally also have the potential to attend university. What will rural Ireland do when it's finest, most talented young people have left? I might also add that many graduates don't just plan on leaving rural regions, but Ireland itself. This is one of the primary factors which has resulted in the degradation of rural Ireland, if it doesn't stop then how can rural Ireland really progress?

Deleted User wrote: »

With house prices rising i can only assume there is demand to justify these rises? Absolutely agree with the rest, we must go beyond Dublin. Services are under huge pressure and roads are full up there.

Personally , I could not justify the paying the current house prices. I think they are outrageous and a lot of people who buy now will regret it. But yes, the current prices are in line with what people are willing to be, so broadly speaking they are justifiable. To me, it's madness but Ireland's relationship with property has always been a question of madness.

Deleted User wrote: »

Depends on which community you go to . I probably wouldnt say it about my own area tbh but little Loughmore formed a Co-op to save the local shop. There is many other villages that are inspiring not neccessarily within the Republic but rural nonetheless. Slaughtneil in Derry is one such parish. Competing in hurling, football, camogie. the locals joined together to save post office and shop, and the area is trying to be recognised as a gaeltacht area

The happenings in Northern Ireland are of little interest to me, but I recognise your point. My own community is certainly not a generalisation of all Irish communities and I cannot claim it to be otherwise. I always found rural areas to be less accepting of outsider, less tolerant of change and less willing to accept differences in others. I'm sure that can't be said of every rural Irish community but I have a nagging suspicion that it's true for a surprisingly high percentage of them.

meeeeh

I could live in city but unfortunately houses that I would consider acceptable go for millions so I don't think that is an option at the moment.

I think we are lucky in a way. We have our own business and commute to work is 5 minutes and not much traffic. Local school is good and has very few challenging kids. Bigger supermarkets are about 10 minutes away, smaller shopping is done on the way home/ to the bank/ during lunch break. We need to drive and need two cars but we don't need to spend much time in the car. Hospital is 10 minutes away and ok for emergencies. House is quiet, when the dog starts barking at night the first thought is bloody fox/rabbit/cat/deer and not break in.

However if the business went under or if we couldn't drive or if someone actually broke in then we would be in a lot more voulnerable position than living in a city. It's all relative.

seachto7

What's the waiting time for an ambulance in the city v country?

How many ambulances does rural Ireland have available at any one time v Dublin or Cork or Limk city etc?

How do we fare out compared to other countries on this ?

Solomon Pleasant

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I don't really underestimate rural Ireland by assumptions. I just know that the majority of people who want to achieve their ambitions usually leave the more rural areas. University is the obvious example. Yes, there are ITs in rural (and urban areas), but universities tend to locate themselves in centralised urban regions. If that trend continues, will there be enough people to effect change? In particular, the people who are usually most capable of effecting change are those who incidentally also have the potential to attend university. What will rural Ireland do when it's finest, most talented young people have left? I might also add that many graduates don't just plan on leaving rural regions, but Ireland itself. This is one of the primary factors which has resulted in the degradation of rural Ireland, if it doesn't stop then how can rural Ireland really progress?




Personally , I could not justify the paying the current house prices. I think they are outrageous and a lot of people who buy now will regret it. But yes, the current prices are in line with what people are willing to be, so broadly speaking they are justifiable. To me, it's madness but Ireland's relationship with property has always been a question of madness.




The happenings in Northern Ireland are of little interest to me, but I recognise your point. My own community is certainly not a generalisation of all Irish communities and I cannot claim it to be otherwise. I always found rural areas to be less accepting of outsider, less tolerant of change and less willing to accept differences in others. I'm sure that can't be said of every rural Irish community but I have a nagging suspicion that it's true for a surprisingly high percentage of them.

Firstly, thats a really good point with the universities. Perhaps if the Technical university movement came in then it might attract more students to those colleges?
As you said though, there is a brain drain of the best and brightest. We leave too much up to politicians though. There comes a time when the backs are to the wall where citizens have to emerge and demand more, just as the gay rights movement did, just as the farmers do, just like the repeal the 8th campaigners. Rural ireland has to march on Dail Eireann. We cant just expect the lowrys and healy raes to throw us the odd bone here and there and be happy with it. Our grievances go beyond that.

seachto7

seachto7 wrote: »

What's the waiting time for an ambulance in the city v country?

How many ambulances does rural Ireland have available at any one time v Dublin or Cork or Limk city etc?

How do we fare out compared to other countries on this ?

We once waited 2 and a half hours on our road while a couple of us attended to a man who crashed his motorbike back in 2012
9pm of a Sunday evening in Summer time.

Last summer of a Saturday night (or Sunday morning to be more exact) in late july, a lad collapsed on the street 1 mile away in the local village. Chap was high on drugs but had been assaulted earlier in the evening with a tyre iron. Ambulance seemed to take no length (from either Kk or Clonmel) but that was one o'clock in the morning.

On average though i dont know.