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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**
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Floyd via DQOutlaw Pete wrote: »Never said that. Never implied that.
In fact I said Mayweather will most likely school Conor if it gets past the third, that he'd would most likely win and that Conor only has a slim chance of victory. How the hell could that possibly sound like someone who believes experience and decades of training in a particular sport doesn't count for much?
The fact you think he has any realistic chance of doing damage to one of the greatest boxers of all time, in the early rounds (or any rounds)... despite not being a boxer, and never having laced up a pair of gloves in his life for a pro fight... this shows me that you have pretty much zero respect for those 3+ decades that Floyd has spent toiling away to become one of the best in his sport....What you infer from my posts has little to do with the actual content of them so perhaps it would be best if you no longer replied to them? Good man yourself.
How about, I reply to whatever points I choose to on this forum... and you put it in your pipe and smoke it...?? There's a good little fanboy!You did the same in the AMA with JK. You're more interested in the sound of your own voice than actually paying attention to what people are saying to you.
Thanks for reminding me of my fine work in that AMA....
I am happy that I asked JK some tough questions. It's not my fault if he struggled to give any insightful or intelligent answers. I won't apologise for putting some difficult question to the man. That is what AMA is about... in my interpretation anyway!
Perhaps others think it's an opportunity for some a$$ kissing - but that's their unfortunate weakness as person. Not my problem!No, it's really not.... it's just the usual resorting to ad hominems whenever someone has no retort for an argument being made. That and strawmans are all you folks have.
I thought it was an excellent point, and perfectly illustrates where many McGregor fanboys (such as yourself) are at mentally!
Not every personal observation is ad hominem. A lot of people just throw around the "ad hominem" accusation, when they have no intelligent retort to said observation! It's a very convenient - and lazy - way of ignoring a salient point.
Many McGregor fanboys are seriously deluded. It really does show the dangers inherent, when people allow their sporting idols to inhabit a place of far greater importance in their life/mind, than is actually healthy or normal. I think the line between reality and illusion, starts to become somewhat blurred for people such as yourselves...
(I'm assuming you are probably an adult, right?... It's even more sad to witness, when someone has a fully developed frontal lobe!) :pac:No, because he hasn't earned it on merit, just like this fight.
If it did happen though......... I'd be equally as perplexed as I am that he got this fight (money being the motivating factor for all concerned of course) and in the lead up to his first match I would correct anyone that said he had to learn a whole "new set of skills" (given that he had played a decent level before) and then come match night I'd give him a "slim chance" of scoring, maybe a penalty would be his best hope but would suggest that it "highly unlikely" he'd scoring in open play.
Wait, that's almost exactly what I'm saying about this fight.......... what a coincidence.
What did it say on that boxing trophy, again??
"Novice"... He was a novice boxing champion, back in 2006...
What has he done in the sport of boxing, since 2006, that might help us to elevate him above a mere novice in this sport?
And yes, a novice has a great deal to learn in the sport of boxing before you can consider them to be a decent level professional. To even earn the respect, for experts to give you a mere puncher's chance against one of the top guys in the sport.
This is a hugely inexperienced, novice boxer... going up against one of the all-time greats. If this was in a heavier weight class, we might be talking about McGregor getting very seriously injured.
He might not suffer any serious injuries in this fight... but he will almost certainly get picked apart in one of the most lopsided sporting events you are ever likely to witness in your lifetime!0 -
Floyd via DQwonderfullife wrote: »Yeah, all your lame attempts to paint me some sort of fawning sycophant "fanboy" are pathetic and ignorant.
I criticize Conor often.
You clearly are a fanboy... just because you also make criticisms, does not mean that you are using sound logic in either your criticism or praise!The fact I believe he has a genuine chance of being very competitive against Floyd is my opinion.
No disrespect, but your opinions appear to be standing on pretty weak foundations. It's remarkable that someone with such obviously thin knowledge of either sports, can have such strongly held (and defended) opinions!I think boxing is a very limited combat sport utilising only 4 weapons. I think people over-play Floyd's defensive genius. I think Floyd gets hit and gets hit clean plenty in almost every fight and the Compubox numbers back that up.
Of course it's limited... but Conor is going to be limited, in what he can use, just like every other boxer. You are deluded in the extreme, if you think Conor is going to bring anything new of significance to boxing...
It's also arrogance on your part, to think that a novice boxer is going to step into the world of a boxing hall of famer... and throw new weapons at him. It's comical to read this stuff... :pac:
It's not the quantity of the weapons you have in boxing... it's the quality you possess in utilising those weapons! That's what really counts.Most importantly, I believe fighting Floyd breaks a lot of other fighters mentally under the pressure of the biggest stage imaginable. Conor thrives under the pressure and will be calm in there.
How do you know? Have you seen him box against a top pro before? (in his world)
MMA is a relatively new sport at pro level... McGregor has gone into the UFC with some impressive tools, and a clever fight strategy. For the most part, it has worked very well for him.
But you are making a rather big miscalculation, if you think he's going to waltz into Floyd's world, and do something similar. (with only a few months of training and strategizing)
Boxing is quite an old sport... do you think there have never been any intelligent thinkers/strategists in this great sport?? You think trainers and coaches just train their fighters hard, and put no thought into fight strategy or gameplans...?? lol
By the way you are talking, you seem to think Conor and John Kavanagh can revolutionize the sport of boxing... and come up with brand new ideas to crack it, or something??
But something you are forgetting, is that John and Conor are not really pioneers of anything brand new in MMA. They certainly are pioneers of the sport in this country... but they are not re-inventing the wheel in their sport. (in a worldwide context)
Their philosophy on the sport, is borrowed from other people. Other thinkers on the game... they are doing an excellent job of implementing some of those ideas. But that does not mean they are inventing brand new things... (sorry to burst your fanboy bubble)
Boxing may be somewhat limited, in the sense that you can only use your fists... but it is still quite a complex sport when you really delve deep into it. There are many great minds, that have successfully applied their intelligence to this sport down through the years. It is not as simplistic, as you seem to think!
Floyd is a product of all that history. His skills and strategy have evolved from many other fighters, trainers and coaches through the generations!I think he's got a great shot at proving all of you wrong.
And yet, you still feel the need to also predict a Mayweather win... ?? :rolleyes:
So confident in your analysis, yet you're leaving the door open for your quick retreat... :pac::pac:
This shows that your "analysis" is nothing even close to being objective. You are simply attempting to invent (illogical) reasons, for why your hero can cause the big upset... and make you look super clever in the process!0 -
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Floyd via DQThinkProgress wrote: »The fact you think he has any realistic chance of doing damage to one of the greatest boxers of all time, in the early rounds (or any rounds)... despite not being a boxer, and never having laced up a pair of gloves in his life for a pro fight... this shows me that you have pretty much zero respect for those 3+ decades that Floyd has spent toiling away to become one of the best in his sport....
How about, I reply to whatever points I choose to on this forum... and you put it in your pipe and smoke it...?? There's a good little fanboy!
Thanks for reminding me of my fine work in that AMA....
I am happy that I asked JK some tough questions. It's not my fault if he struggled to give any insightful or intelligent answers. I won't apologise for putting some difficult question to the man. That is what AMA is about... in my interpretation anyway!
Perhaps others think it's an opportunity for some a$$ kissing - but that's their unfortunate weakness as person. Not my problem!
I thought it was an excellent point, and perfectly illustrates where many McGregor fanboys (such as yourself) are at mentally!
Not every personal observation is ad hominem. A lot of people just throw around the "ad hominem" accusation, when they have no intelligent retort to said observation! It's a very convenient - and lazy - way of ignoring a salient point.
Many McGregor fanboys are seriously deluded. It really does show the dangers inherent, when people allow their sporting idols to inhabit a place of far greater importance in their life/mind, than is actually healthy or normal. I think the line between reality and illusion, starts to become somewhat blurred for people such as yourselves...
(I'm assuming you are probably an adult, right?... It's even more sad to witness, when someone has a fully developed frontal lobe!) :pac:
What did it say on that boxing trophy, again??
"Novice"... He was a novice boxing champion, back in 2006...
What has he done in the sport of boxing, since 2006, that might help us to elevate him above a mere novice in this sport?
And yes, a novice has a great deal to learn in the sport of boxing before you can consider them to be a decent level professional. To even earn the respect, for experts to give you a mere puncher's chance against one of the top guys in the sport.
This is a hugely inexperienced, novice boxer... going up against one of the all-time greats. If this was in a heavier weight class, we might be talking about McGregor getting very seriously injured.
He might not suffer any serious injuries in this fight... but he will almost certainly get picked apart in one of the most lopsided sporting events you are ever likely to witness in your lifetime!
Nothing but pure waffle...........
Look, you made a strawman argument suggesting I was of the belief that decades of experience and training don't "count for much"......... obvious waffling as it's clear from my posts that I respect Mayweather's experience and talent given that I only give McGregor a "slim chance" of winning in the early rounds. As for the trophy saying "Novice": nobody claimed it said anything else and if you had read what I wrote underneath the image you'd have seen that I specifically said:And don't come back and say the above are not significant as that's not the point at all...
The point of the image was merely to show that boxing is not "new" to Conor as had been suggested.
With regards to the AMA......... you made a holy show of yourself and came across as a narcissist tbh, more interested in what you were posting than anything John Kavanagh was going to say in response. You were given the chance to pose some questions and all you did was waste it in a clear attempt at trying to impress everyone with self indulgent essays.0 -
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Floyd via DQnormanoffside wrote: »This whole thread reminds me of this...
The size of the big white guy, and he used his face to break his fall on the second knockdown - ouch0 -
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