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What products prey on stupid people?

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    #272
    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    Detox foods.

    Your liver does most of that.


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    #273
    Valmont
    Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭Valmont


    RedTie wrote: »
    Are you honestly saying all SSRIs are for stupid people?
    It's hard to swallow, I know, but they're no better than Haribo. Can a pill really fix a lack of meaning and direction in someone's life? Can a pill solve a human response to something awful? The idea is so far fetched it explains why GPs sling them out like Ballymun dealers slinging heroin.

    Snake oil.


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    #274
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,010 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Valmont wrote: »
    It's hard to swallow, I know, but they're no better than Haribo. Can a pill really fix a lack of meaning and direction in someone's life? Can a pill solve a human response to something awful? The idea is so far fetched it explains why GPs sling them out like Ballymun dealers slinging heroin.

    Snake oil.

    i know some people that wouldnt be alive without them but its good to see advancements in alternatives as they can also be harmful.


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    #275
    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭worded


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    It not so much the products as it is marketing and advertising.

    nationwide-survey.jpg?1305185424

    28% of male smokers who try camel go back to women


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    #276
    Hammer89
    Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Morning after pill.


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    #277
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    Valmont wrote: »
    It's hard to swallow, I know, but they're no better than Haribo. Can a pill really fix a lack of meaning and direction in someone's life? Can a pill solve a human response to something awful? The idea is so far fetched it explains why GPs sling them out like Ballymun dealers slinging heroin.

    Snake oil.

    Here is Science Based Medicine take on those papers.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/category/neurosciencemental-health/

    While not great SSRI's are the most effective treatment available.


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    #278
    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭worded


    Oops69 wrote: »
    gluten free products to the multitude of attention- seeking needy non-coeilacs .

    How to become gluten intolerant - very funny

    https://youtu.be/Oht9AEq1798


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    #279
    Oops69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    Valmont wrote: »
    It's hard to swallow, I know, but they're no better than Haribo. Can a pill really fix a lack of meaning and direction in someone's life? Can a pill solve a human response to something awful? The idea is so far fetched it explains why GPs sling them out like Ballymun dealers slinging heroin.

    Snake oil.
    So you're response to all of psychiatric research is " they're no better than haribo ", if medical research hadn't discovered insulin a century ago most diabetics would be dead in childhood or within a year of diagnosis and with regard to psychiatry , do you have any idea what our mental hospitals were like before the advent of medication , very imperfect as it is , they were hell on earth.


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    #280
    caniask86
    Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭caniask86


    Cheese grater. Who even bothers grating their own cheese these days?


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    #281
    Frynge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    caniask86 wrote: »
    Cheese grater. Who even bothers grating their own cheese these days?

    Eh, what?

    Now mind you I didn't buy my cheese grater but I have to assume it was purchased by one of my ancestors directly from a blacksmith.


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    #282
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    jh79 wrote: »
    While not great SSRI's are the most effective treatment available.

    Compared to what?


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    #283
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,679 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    caniask86 wrote: »
    Cheese grater. Who even bothers grating their own cheese these days?

    About 200 million Americans, thanks to the orange turd.

    "Make America grate again"


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    #284
    caniask86
    Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭caniask86


    Valmont wrote: »
    It's hard to swallow, I know, but they're no better than Haribo. Can a pill really fix a lack of meaning and direction in someone's life? Can a pill solve a human response to something awful? The idea is so far fetched it explains why GPs sling them out like Ballymun dealers slinging heroin.

    Snake oil.

    What medical degree do you have? SSRI cover a wide range of medications, they alter the serotonin chemicals and can be quite effective for many people for a range of disorders. Its very dangerous to throw out conspiracy theories on something you have no medical knowledge of. They are helping many people and if you do some actual research you will see how the drug actually works. Can't stand all these Dr Google's.


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    #285
    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭worded


    caniask86 wrote: »
    Cheese grater. Who even bothers grating their own cheese these days?


    Good quality block parmasen chesse is amazing fresh grated


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    #286
    Gavlor
    Registered Users Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    I'm sure it's been said already but one thing that definitely DOESN'T prey on the imbeciles is the aloe Vera products that Mary down the road sells.

    Anything that can prevent cancer, cure hiv and make ginger people normal should be purchased in bulk by all and sundry.

    Hail Vera!


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    #287
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    You know society has become too wealthy when a product called VIPoo hits our supermarket shelves.

    A fcuking €10 - yes, €10 for a tiny plastic bottle filled with scented water.

    Give me strength!!


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    #288
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Compared to what?

    Therapy . The paper Valmont linked to uses a cut off point for clinical significance that is controversial. If Valmont thinks this is an appropriate metric then therapy is also ineffective.


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    #289
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    Gavlor wrote: »
    I'm sure it's been said already but one thing that definitely DOESN'T prey on the imbeciles is the aloe Vera products that Mary down the road sells.

    Anything that can prevent cancer, cure hiv and make ginger people normal should be purchased in bulk by all and sundry.

    Hail Vera!

    You can throw in practically the entire product range of Evergreen or Holland and Barret.

    Antioxidants are another one, no one knows if they have any clinical relelvance and a Cochrane Review found that those with a diet high in antioxidants died earlier!


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    #290
    thelad95
    Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    jh79 wrote: »
    You can throw in practically the entire product range of Evergreen or Holland and Barret.

    Antioxidants are another one, no one knows if they have any clinical relelvance and a Cochrane Review found that those with a diet high in antioxidants died earlier!

    To be fair, holland And Barrett actually sell some useful stuff but the prices they charge can definitely be considered an 'idiot tax'.

    I mean people pay up too thirty euro for some food supplement that they probably get plenty of in their diet anyway, like what's the point?


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    #291
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    thelad95 wrote: »
    To be fair, holland And Barrett actually sell some useful stuff but the prices they charge can definitely be considered an 'idiot tax'.

    I mean people pay up too thirty euro for some food supplement that they probably get plenty of in their diet anyway, like what's the point?

    Which products that they sell are proven to work?


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    #292
    Samaris
    Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    jh79 wrote: »
    Therapy . The paper Valmont linked to uses a cut off point for clinical significance that is controversial. If Valmont thinks this is an appropriate metric then therapy is also ineffective.

    SSRIs can be very useful, IF what is being treated is a chemical/hormonal imbalance, which it might well be. But they have been treated as being a bit of a panacea for all mental problems around depression (for instance) and they can have poor reactions with certain peoples brain chemistry. Given we're still a bit in the dark about exactly how brain chem works and what needs to go wrong to cause X issue, it's the same as any other major breakthrough in clinical psychiatry, it's over-used until there's enough apparent issues to move onto the next big thing. Same thing happens treating kids with ADD etcetera.

    The next big thing appears to be CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and -that- can have negative effects on certain people too and again, it's a little unpredictable who will react badly to it.

    SSRIs are not "snake oil", but they can be over-used and poorly used and I reckon it's because we're seeking treatments without really understanding what we're treating.


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    #293
    Winkelmutt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭Winkelmutt


    Ah. Yet ANOTHER thread stolen from Reddit.

    Funny how most of you were whinging about it the other day and yet...here you are.


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    #294
    Oops69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    caniask86 wrote: »
    Cheese grater. Who even bothers grating their own cheese these days?
    people who like Taste still do e.g Freshly grated parmesan ??.Dont tell me you buy those bags of artifically flavoured tyre rubber ?


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    #295
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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    #296
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,300 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    caniask86 wrote: »
    Cheese grater. Who even bothers grating their own cheese these days?

    It's actually the overpriced already grated stuff that's for the idiots


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    #297
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    A fcuking €10 - yes, €10 for a tiny plastic bottle filled with scented water.

    Give me strength!!

    The strength will come from the scented water; it's known for that.


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    #298
    Poisson Distribution
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4 ✭Poisson Distribution


    lawred2 wrote: »
    It's actually the overpriced already grated stuff that's for the idiots

    Have you ever tried cleaning a cheese grater?


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    #299
    Glenster
    Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Frynge wrote: »
    Eh, what?

    Now mind you I didn't buy my cheese grater but I have to assume it was purchased by one of my ancestors directly from a blacksmith.

    Someone who hasn't, in their lives bought a cheesegrater.

    Possibilities;

    1) Parents are dead, cheesegrater inherited. Cheesegrater haunted.

    2) Rents, uses former tenants cheesegrater. Still some residue of testicle skin on cheesegrater from previous use.

    3) Lives with someone else and uses their cheesegrater. Commonly known as gratertrash.

    4) Only eats chips and nuggs. Will die of scurvy at 29.

    5) buys pre-grated cheese. Is a sucker.

    Don't be these people, buy a cheesegrater, its probably only a tenner.


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    #300
    Glenster
    Registered Users Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Everything in this shop

    1935832233_f9f16ef4e1_z.jpg


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    #301
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    What the hell is a Mediatrix - a virgin Dominatrix?


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