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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #7472
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Spudman_20000 wrote: »
    Nate shouldn't be demanding anything. He's sitting on his backside waiting for the rubber match, all the while turning down other fights. He should be told go spin on it.

    Should mcreggor be told to spin on it? has had two titles in the ufc for about 2.5 years yet has to defend one?


  • #7473
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Should mcreggor be told to spin on it? has had two titles in the ufc for about 2.5 years yet has to defend one?

    Well don't make sure you get your facts right.


  • #7474
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Should mcreggor be told to spin on it? has had two titles in the ufc for about 2.5 years yet has to defend one?

    Factually he has had 3 titles for less than 2 years and you can argue the case he was kind enough to put that belt on the line against Jose :) If he lost the fight, he'd have lost his belt :)


  • #7475
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Conor a better clincher than Floyd......:rolleyes:

    Maybe he is, in MMA. But not all clinching is the same...

    They will be clinchng in boxing. And my money is on the career boxer...


  • #7476
    xtal191
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Press conference supposedly at Wembley Stadium in two weeks time.


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  • #7477
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    walshb wrote: »
    Conor a better clincher than Floyd......:rolleyes:

    Maybe he is, in MMA. But not all clinching is the same...

    They will be clinchng in boxing. And my money is on the career boxer...

    My money is on the referee splitting them up quickly.


  • #7478
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Spudman_20000 wrote: »
    Nate shouldn't be demanding anything. He's sitting on his backside waiting for the rubber match, all the while turning down other fights. He should be told go spin on it.

    Absolutely.... I hate to begrudge anybody anything they have worked for but I begrudge Nate Diaz the money he made fighting McGregor... every cent of it, cause he doesn't for one second appreciate it..... still moaning now about money more than he ever was. $20k purse he was paid in his last fight before 196 (with a $20k bonus on top). He effectively became a multi millionaire fighting Conor when you include 202..... but he walks around with a face like a slapped arse moaning. Hit the lottery when RDA pulled out but yet acts like UFC stiffed him. Can't abide him or his brother.


  • #7479
    [Deleted User]
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    Gintonious wrote: »
    My money is on the referee splitting them up quickly.

    I know it goes against the general consensus but I can see the referee favouring McGregor rather than Mayweather.

    Vegas is all about money - casino owners, hotels, venues etc have tremendous sway. McGregor is the future. At 28 he has the potential to bring in tens of billions to the Vegas economy over the remainder of his career. Doubly so if he has a good showing against Floyd.

    We saw what happened when McGregor threatened never to fight in Vegas again...Lundvall was called by the governor to say she would not be reappointed and the fine was heavily reduced.

    I am not suggesting a fixed contest but I think the referee will be slow to take action against Conor.


  • #7480
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    walshb wrote: »
    Conor a better clincher than Floyd......:rolleyes:

    Maybe he is, in MMA. But not all clinching is the same...

    They will be clinchng in boxing. And my money is on the career boxer...

    mma clinching is more technical and physical. he wont have to worry about getting kneed in the face, slashed by elbows, or taken down to the canvas

    Im not gonna say Conor has a better clinch game but you are very quick to dismiss him


  • #7481
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I know it goes against the general consensus but I can see the referee favouring McGregor rather than Mayweather.

    Vegas is all about money - casino owners, hotels, venues etc have tremendous sway. McGregor is the future. At 28 he has the potential to bring in tens of billions to the Vegas economy over the remainder of his career. Doubly so if he has a good showing against Floyd.

    We saw what happened when McGregor threatened never to fight in Vegas again...Lundvall was called by the governor to say she would not be reappointed and the fine was heavily reduced.

    I am not suggesting a fixed contest but I think the referee will be slow to take action against Conor.

    I can't see that at all. This is a boxing match, so the boxing referee (not saying it is fixed either) will enforce their version of the rules. If the clinch is too aggressive from one party over the other, then they will be broken up early.

    That said, if the clinch is McGregors favoured approach, he still has to get close enough to Mayweather to even try that.


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  • #7482
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    walshb wrote: »
    Conor a better clincher than Floyd......:rolleyes:

    Maybe he is, in MMA. But not all clinching is the same...

    They will be clinchng in boxing. And my money is on the career boxer...

    Firas Zahabi feels Conor will destroy him in the clinch with underhooks, overhooks, head-drags, knee-trips everything. Incidentally Firas is working pretty closely with Freddie Roach for GSP's comeback, so it's fair to say he knows both sports.

    Firas also thinks Floyd embarrasses Conor after the 4th round so it's not like he's going with biased opinions for the MMA fighter.


  • #7483
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Firas Zahabi feels Conor will destroy him in the clinch with underhooks, overhooks, head-drags, knee-trips everything. Incidentally Firas is working pretty closely with Freddie Roach for GSP's comeback, so it's fair to say he knows both sports.

    Firas also thinks Floyd embarrasses Conor after the 4th round so it's not like he's going with biased opinions for the MMA fighter.


    Its a boxing match who cares if he looks stronger in the clinch for 6 or 9 minutes, if the end result is him getting embarrassed its irrelevant.


  • #7484
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Not sure about the wisdom of doing the first presser in Wembley Stadium.

    They might get what? 10,000 - 15,000 fans for it?

    It'll be bad optics if they're in a 90,000 seater stadium with 15,000 people there. Strange stuff. I could understand doing it in the Aviva and filling it out but if you're going to draw 15,000 to a press conference at least hold it in a venue that holds 15,000 or 20,000.


  • #7485
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Not sure about the wisdom of doing the first presser in Wembley Stadium.

    They might get what? 10,000 - 15,000 fans for it?

    It'll be bad optics if they're in a 90,000 seater stadium with 15,000 people there. Strange stuff. I could understand doing it in the Aviva and filling it out but if you're going to draw 15,000 to a press conference at least hold it in a venue that holds 15,000 or 20,000.

    It will be in the area, not the stadium I'd say. Doing it in the stadium would be stupid.


  • #7486
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Its a boxing match who cares if he looks stronger in the clinch for 6 or 9 minutes, if the end result is him getting embarrassed its irrelevant.

    True. But if he does win, the clinch work will likely have been a factor in his victory.


  • #7487
    John_D80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Not sure about the wisdom of doing the first presser in Wembley Stadium.

    They might get what? 10,000 - 15,000 fans for it?

    It'll be bad optics if they're in a 90,000 seater stadium with 15,000 people there. Strange stuff. I could understand doing it in the Aviva and filling it out but if you're going to draw 15,000 to a press conference at least hold it in a venue that holds 15,000 or 20,000.

    When I heard Wembley, I had first of all assumed that it would be in a convention/event centre that was co-located.

    Are they actually doing it in the Stadium?


  • #7488
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    John_D80 wrote: »
    When I heard Wembley, I had first of all assumed that it would be in a convention/event centre that was co-located.

    Are they actually doing it in the Stadium?

    Yeah the stadium! They'll be sitting on a stage on the pitch.

    This is according to The Sun but the BBC have just confirmed it through "sources close to Mayweather".


  • #7489
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Wembley Arena I'd say it will be, the place where Bellator had their event not long ago.


  • #7490
    martyos121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility for them to do it in the stadium, only if they make a proper event of it with big music acts on beforehand and such. It's arguably the biggest press conference in sporting history (if it's the first one for the fight) so I wouldn't blame them for being ambitious with it.

    Stamford Bridge would probably do though tbf, Wembley is overkill.


  • #7491
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Wembley Arena I'd say it will be, the place where Bellator had their event not long ago.

    The Sun and BBC say the following:
    It will be free to get in to witness the two go face-to-face for the first time since the announcement that rocked the world of sport first came out.

    A stage will be erected at one end of the pitch.


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  • #7492
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Will look ridiculous in the massive stadium then again who cares no ones gonna not buy it because of a presser in Wembley.


  • #7493
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Will look ridiculous in the massive stadium then again who cares no ones gonna not buy it because of a presser in Wembley.

    I'll watch the fight but I will not buy it.


  • #7494
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Does anyone with experience of sports bars/clubs know if Ireland operates the same system as America?

    As in - For the Floyd-Manny fight, a US sports bar with a 500-capacity had to pay $15,500 to show the fight.

    Does it work similarly here? Big lump sum to show the fight or do the bars just cheat and pay the $100?


  • #7495
    xtal191
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    I'll watch the fight but I will not buy it.

    Same, no chance I'm paying for it


  • #7496
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    If Gervonta Davis and one or 2 other legit match ups are on the ppv I'll probably buy it depending on streams that night and how bad they are.


  • #7497
    rogieop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭rogieop


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Does anyone with experience of sports bars/clubs know if Ireland operates the same system as America?

    As in - For the Floyd-Manny fight, a US sports bar with a 500-capacity had to pay $15,500 to show the fight.

    Does it work similarly here? Big lump sum to show the fight or do the bars just cheat and pay the $100?

    Bars in Ireland get charged way over the odds for their sports subscription compared to home users.

    for instance a home subscription to sky tv could be roughly 100 a month whereas a pub or bar would have to pay 1000.

    I think to buy in the ppv they just pay the flat rate after that..


  • #7498
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Gamebred wrote: »
    If Gervonta Davis and one or 2 other legit match ups are on the ppv I'll probably buy it depending on streams that night and how bad they are.

    I'll just watch it in a pub or something, joys of living outside of the city and knowing the bar owners is you find out where will be having a lock in :D


  • #7499
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Not coming to Dublin might seem like a wise move by Mayweather but I can see McGrgeor using that to his advantage and going off on him saying he was too afraid to come to his home city, to afraid to come to Ireland and sit in front of Irish people etc etc.... all bollox of course but it's something I can see Conor exploiting for sure.


  • #7500
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    They will be best mates after the fight . Wouldnt even be surprised to see Floyd at his next ufc fight


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  • #7501
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Well, Ali and Foreman became best friends..... so why not.

    Maybe one day we'll even see McGregor helping Mayweather up some steps to collect an award about a film made about this fight too.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBHYqH9qaUc


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