Did anybody here attend the Rally For Life/repeal the 8th marches in Dublin?

The_Valeyard wrote: »

After reading the comments from most of the pro abortion side, I'll probably be voting to keep the 8th. Decision made.

So you're basing your decision not on what will make it safer for women but "comments"

Then you announce your big decision looking for attention

Pathetic post


If the 8th stays all it means is they keep travelling outside Ireland

Sweeping it under the rug

Time for the country to get the training wheels off

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Did a load of comments get deleted in here or am I imagining things.?

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Thanks for your input, myself and partner and most friends already decided to keep 8th. Unless it's a strict inclusion of medical reasons. Any opening of a British style system, we'd all be voting no.

Why? Again, what is your life gaining by forcing women to travel to the UK for the procesure when it would be much safer physically and mentally to not have to travel?


The only difference it makes is to put hardship on women. Women are having abortions, people need to face up to this and stop sticking their head in the sand.

A simple case of looking at the numbers will show that plenty of people on the pro life side know people that have had abortions, be it friends or family members. They might not know the women have had them tho. Out of sight out of mind.......

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Personal attack? Thanks.

This is a comment boards where people can post their opinions. Just because you disagree with me on abortion you dont get to shout me down with insults.

Looking for attention by announcing your intention is a pathetic post

Hope that clears it up

Uriel. wrote: »

Did a load of comments get deleted in here or am I imagining things.?

My comment from last night was deleted for some reason. Nothing inflammatory in it, simply a description of what kind of opposition we faced on Saturday.

Looked like to me that it was a load of comments and replies to new accounts, which were possible re-regs/sock puppet accounts.

keano_afc wrote: »

Like they have in Canada, and are trying to push in the UK?

that isnt the question i asked.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that isnt the question i asked.

Do you think the likes of Labour and PBP will be happy with anything other than abortion for any reason up to birth?

keano_afc wrote: »

Do you think the likes of Labour and PBP will be happy with anything other than abortion for any reason up to birth?

why is there happiness so important? I wasnt aware they were the parties in government.

Grayson wrote: »

I've attached a screenshot from a pro life facebook group. I can post more. Let me know when you've had enough to change your mind

i wouldnt bother. there was a lot of this during the marriage referendum. People who claimed that the only decided to vote against it because of the actions of the Pro side. All nonsense of course.

The_Valeyard wrote: »

After reading the comments from most of the pro abortion side, I'll probably be voting to keep the 8th. Decision made.

That is a bit of a blanket non statement though.

First of all there is not much of a "pro abortion" side. At least with all my dealings with people who are pro-choice no one has identified themselves as that OR acted like they fit that title. When labeling the other side it is best to pick a label that does one OR the other, if not both.

No, most pro-choice people I know..... myself included..... are actually pretty anti abortion. We wish there was none happening, none ever required, and that no one ever had to make that choice.

And such people support every measure they can to reduce the number of abortions happening. Better, cheaper and wider access to contraception. More comprehensive, and EARLIER sex education in the state curriculum. More information on alternative choices for mothers. Better support for the kind of people (like single mothers) more inclined to have to consider abortion. And so on and so on.

Weirdly the kind of people I meet against abortion choice, are also against the measures like those that would aim to reduce people seeking abortions. I could not estimate, for example, the people who are AGAINST abortion by choice and are also AGAINST early education on sex for children in schools. Usually under some vague nonsense like "Oh we do not want to ruin the innocence of children" as if such a thing some how necessitates total biology ignorance.

But we still want them to HAVE the choice. The ideal world for the average pro-choice campaigner is a world where 100% of people have the choice but 0% of people ever need it. We can never reach that ideal I suspect, but we work towards BOTH in equal measure in a way a deliberately misleading and disingenuous title like "pro abortion" entirely ignores.

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Personal attack? Thanks.

This is a comment boards where people can post their opinions. Just because you disagree with me on abortion you dont get to shout me down with insults.

There's no insults there. Stop playing the victim.

gctest50 wrote: »

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Don't accuse posters of being reregs.

I'm in favour of both life and choices, so the labels in this campaign leave me really confused.