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Did anybody here attend the Rally For Life/repeal the 8th marches in Dublin?

freshpopcorn

I heard a good bit about these online at the weekend. Did anybody on Boards attend either of these?
I think it was official the Rally for Life and the counter march was organised by the repeal side. I know in my local town their was a bus organised by the Rally for Life group. According to the net their was meant to have be a good turn out for the Rally for Life protest. This was discredited by repeal the 8th side but either side always tend to think they've a massive group and the other side is smaller.
From social media it appears to the same people commenting from both sides all the time in my experience with the typical comments getting all the likes. Outside of the internet/news articles I have never really heard many people on about it to be honest.
It will be a very interesting to see how a vote on this will go in my opinion it will all depend on what people are voting for. One thing I have noticed is repeal votes seem to be alienating the on the fence voters more so than the pro-life campaign.

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Hector Savage

The_Valeyard wrote: »

After reading the comments from most of the pro abortion side, I'll probably be voting to keep the 8th. Decision made.

It's not PRO abortion, it's PRO CHOICE !!!

The_Valeyard

Hector Savage wrote: »

It's not PRO abortion, it's PRO CHOICE !!!

same thing. Decision made. Thanks.

The_Valeyard

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Yea, because social media ranting (from both sides) is always the way to decide important issues.

Ask yourself this... what's the better outcome for a woman who finds herself in the position? Because THAT is what matters here, not the agenda of those (again on both sides) who won't have to live with the decision either way.

Thanks for your input, myself and partner and most friends already decided to keep 8th. Unless it's a strict inclusion of medical reasons. Any opening of a British style system, we'd all be voting no.

Guy:Incognito

Where is abortion allowed outside of special circumstances at 7 months and why do you think it will be allowed here?

It's almost as if people won't debate the actual issues.........

gctest50

The_Valeyard wrote: »

After reading the comments from most of the pro abortion side, I'll probably be voting to keep the 8th. Decision made.

So you're basing your decision not on what will make it safer for women but "comments"

Then you announce your big decision looking for attention

Pathetic post

If the 8th stays all it means is they keep travelling outside Ireland

Sweeping it under the rug

Time for the country to get the training wheels off

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_Kaiser_

I refuse to get drawn into the emotionally charged "argument" made by those who should have absolutely no say in what is a deeply individual and personal matter, influenced by a number of factors beyond such emotive blackmailing.

I've stated my position above. There is already an alternative that won't be going away but puts more pressure and stress on people facing such a decision. There's no reason to put them through that when they should be able to safely and legally have the abortion here IF that's ultimately their decision.

Uriel.

Did a load of comments get deleted in here or am I imagining things.?

The_Valeyard

gctest50 wrote: »

So you're basing your decision not on what will make it safer for women but "comments"

Then you announce your big decision looking for attention

Pathetic

Personal attack? Thanks.

This is a comment boards where people can post their opinions. Just because you disagree with me on abortion you dont get to shout me down with insults.

Guy:Incognito

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Thanks for your input, myself and partner and most friends already decided to keep 8th. Unless it's a strict inclusion of medical reasons. Any opening of a British style system, we'd all be voting no.

Why? Again, what is your life gaining by forcing women to travel to the UK for the procesure when it would be much safer physically and mentally to not have to travel?

The only difference it makes is to put hardship on women. Women are having abortions, people need to face up to this and stop sticking their head in the sand.

A simple case of looking at the numbers will show that plenty of people on the pro life side know people that have had abortions, be it friends or family members. They might not know the women have had them tho. Out of sight out of mind.......

_Kaiser_

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why? Again, what is your life gaining by forcing women to travel to the UK for the procesure when it would be much safer physically and mentally to not have to travel?

The only difference it makes is to put hardship on women. Women are having abortions, people need to face up to this and stop sticking their head in the sand.

And that sums up the entire debate really.

gctest50

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Personal attack? Thanks.

This is a comment boards where people can post their opinions. Just because you disagree with me on abortion you dont get to shout me down with insults.

Looking for attention by announcing your intention is a pathetic post

Hope that clears it up

feargale

Uriel. wrote: »

Did a load of comments get deleted in here or am I imagining things.?

I believe you are correct. I'm puzzled myself.

keano_afc

Uriel. wrote: »

Did a load of comments get deleted in here or am I imagining things.?

My comment from last night was deleted for some reason. Nothing inflammatory in it, simply a description of what kind of opposition we faced on Saturday.

ohnonotgmail

do you honestly think that any party would introduce a bill that allowed unlimited abortion at any stage of pregnancy?

super_furry

Looked like to me that it was a load of comments and replies to new accounts, which were possible re-regs/sock puppet accounts.

keano_afc

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

do you honestly think that any party would introduce a bill that allowed unlimited abortion at any stage of pregnancy?

Like they have in Canada, and are trying to push in the UK?

ohnonotgmail

keano_afc wrote: »

Like they have in Canada, and are trying to push in the UK?

that isnt the question i asked.

The_Valeyard

gctest50 wrote: »

Looking for attention by announcing your intention is a pathetic post

Hope that clears it up

no, your response is extremely questionable.

keano_afc

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that isnt the question i asked.

Do you think the likes of Labour and PBP will be happy with anything other than abortion for any reason up to birth?

Zebra3

Donal55 wrote: »

Blessed be the Fruit.

I too like bananas.

ohnonotgmail

keano_afc wrote: »

Do you think the likes of Labour and PBP will be happy with anything other than abortion for any reason up to birth?

why is there happiness so important? I wasnt aware they were the parties in government.

Grayson

The_Valeyard wrote: »

After reading the comments from most of the pro abortion side, I'll probably be voting to keep the 8th. Decision made.

I've attached a screenshot from a pro life facebook group. I can post more. Let me know when you've had enough to change your mind

ohnonotgmail

Grayson wrote: »

I've attached a screenshot from a pro life facebook group. I can post more. Let me know when you've had enough to change your mind

i wouldnt bother. there was a lot of this during the marriage referendum. People who claimed that the only decided to vote against it because of the actions of the Pro side. All nonsense of course.

The_Valeyard

Grayson wrote: »

I've attached a screenshot from a pro life facebook group. I can post more. Let me know when you've had enough to change your mind

Post away. Wont change a thing. Made my decision. So has my family.

Seen the arguments and crap from both sides. Dont care anymore at this stage.

nozzferrahhtoo

The_Valeyard wrote: »

After reading the comments from most of the pro abortion side, I'll probably be voting to keep the 8th. Decision made.

That is a bit of a blanket non statement though.

First of all there is not much of a "pro abortion" side. At least with all my dealings with people who are pro-choice no one has identified themselves as that OR acted like they fit that title. When labeling the other side it is best to pick a label that does one OR the other, if not both.

No, most pro-choice people I know..... myself included..... are actually pretty anti abortion. We wish there was none happening, none ever required, and that no one ever had to make that choice.

And such people support every measure they can to reduce the number of abortions happening. Better, cheaper and wider access to contraception. More comprehensive, and EARLIER sex education in the state curriculum. More information on alternative choices for mothers. Better support for the kind of people (like single mothers) more inclined to have to consider abortion. And so on and so on.

Weirdly the kind of people I meet against abortion choice, are also against the measures like those that would aim to reduce people seeking abortions. I could not estimate, for example, the people who are AGAINST abortion by choice and are also AGAINST early education on sex for children in schools. Usually under some vague nonsense like "Oh we do not want to ruin the innocence of children" as if such a thing some how necessitates total biology ignorance.

But we still want them to HAVE the choice. The ideal world for the average pro-choice campaigner is a world where 100% of people have the choice but 0% of people ever need it. We can never reach that ideal I suspect, but we work towards BOTH in equal measure in a way a deliberately misleading and disingenuous title like "pro abortion" entirely ignores.

gctest50

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Post away. Wont change a thing. Made my decision. So has my family.

Seen the arguments and crap from both sides. Dont care anymore at this stage.

what next if no thanks ? this ? :

(3) thanks from: Not_The_Valeyard The_Valeyard_proxy The_Valeyard_VPN

Skylinehead

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Personal attack? Thanks.

This is a comment boards where people can post their opinions. Just because you disagree with me on abortion you dont get to shout me down with insults.

There's no insults there. Stop playing the victim.

gctest50 wrote: »

(3) thanks from: Not_The_Valeyard The_Valeyard_proxy The_Valeyard_VPN

Don't accuse posters of being reregs.

Guy:Incognito

Few very obvious questions being outright ignored, but others around them being answered. Hmm. I wonder are some posts only visible from UK based ip's so people can just pretend they don't exist at all...........

Maximus Alexander

I'm in favour of both life and choices, so the labels in this campaign leave me really confused.

gctest50

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I'm in favour of both life and choices, so the labels in this campaign leave me really confused.

Maybe look at it this way :

If a woman books time off, a ferry ticket and a clinic abroad - she's going

If it was freely available here I would reckon it may in some cases be more like " ah sure i can go get an abortion at any time" and then gradually come around to the idea " ah it wouldn't be so bad "

TLDR : us humans are funny creatures at the best of times